I tend to agree with Mrs. BOOM, but I will say this- I find that our people are not as community minded as other denominations. And have just recently put an emphasis on this aspect of outreach. After living through a couple of natural disasters I can say from experience that only in Katrina did I see the UPC churches begin to reach out and help communities. When a tornado hit our neighborhood several years ago, the Baptist church came to clean up my grandmother's yard. I am not trying to be negative, just stating the facts as I see them.
Oh, will you guys knock it off, Maybe GOD is orchestrating this and is going to use if for His glory! How does anyone know for sure that offers have not come from the UPC. I would find it very hard to believe that they have not offered help as well. Good Grief.
Sorry you took offense - somethings aren't bashing at all. Just the way it is.
Another instance of AFF The Preacher Eating Machine at work.
Another Creditible post discredited as if the poster was a liar.
This one is not a liar!
__________________
I am not a member here -Do not PM me please?
MsBoomm, I am not directing my opinions at all UPC churches. I was making a statement that is interesting that it seems that the UPC churches are not the ones helping. That is all I am saying. I do get the sense from the UPC churches I have been around are not community minded. I had an Asso. Pastor tell me once that his church changed the name and almost added the word community in there. He said that he squashed the idea because it makes you do outreach and be community minded. I know that this does not speak to all of the UPC churches, but some do have a bad rap for not being caring churches. I certainly agree with you that there is alot of good that can come out of this. Seeing the Mighty God in Christ would be great. My guess is that these churches are not too far off in beliefs anyway. But it would be great to see what happens.
This brings another question, what if some of the AG saints want to join the UPC church would it be right for the pastor of the UPC church to take those saints? I am just playing devil's advocate. It is an interesting thought, if I do say so.
__________________
"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
Jack Shephard.
JT - I agree that UPC churches should be more community minded and helping in disasters, etc.
HOWEVER, I don't think you can compare a UPC church not wanting to "rent" to another group that want to have services. We're not talking they lost their building by some loss - just rent the building for services (maybe until they buy a place.) Having been associated with a church that rented their facility to another group - it wasn't always a pretty sight. There is a quite a bit of headache involved. Some people just don't take care of something that isn't theirs.
Plus as an aside, in some states, churches have to pay tax on any income received from renting or leasing any portion of their building/property on a regular basis. Maybe they don't want to worry with something like that when they chose not to rent to another congregation.
JMHO
Now.... back to the topic at hand. None of us can really know what the full circumstances are - but I'm glad that the AG church offered - and like someone else - maybe God has greater plans for it than we can imagine.
__________________ For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11
__________________
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
My mother just called me with two very cool things....
1.
The Northside Assembly of God church, which is 1/4 block from where lighthouse was hit, has opened their church for full use until the church is able to do otherwise.
This AG church is a BRAND NEW mutil million dollar facility that seats 1200.
I personally think that speaks well of the AG and the spirit of working together.
We may not agree doctrinally, but this is when its time to step up to the plate and be a help.
Amazing this is there are 3 other UPC churches in Jackson...and it was the AG that came to the rescue.
2. Charlie Gibson (Good morning America) also hosts World News Tonight, has contacted Bro. Lance....they are sending their camera crews to the church to film and televise the first service after the storm.
It will be televised NATIONALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyways....what an awesome report out of the tragedy.
NLYP/Drama Queen
This is very exciting please tell us when this is going to be?? Wow, so both the UPC and the AG church will both benefit from the coverage.