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07-11-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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Such a weak person is not full of faith enough to believe God for such a promise. And that is associated with the same reason their faith is weak in being easily offended.
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I agree and so he says, "You have an advocate with the Father..." always reaching for us. That is love!
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07-11-2009, 02:22 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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If one is around believers who are always looking at you with a fine tooth comb always looking for fault examining your every move,you'll get frustrated to where you can't function,and one can get so in despair to where one can feel like thinking what the use living for God when every move I make seems wrong.
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And that is time to get away from such people.
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07-11-2009, 02:22 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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I agree and so he says, "You have an advocate with the Father..." always reaching for us. That is love!
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Amen.
(But some have no faith in that either. lol)
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07-11-2009, 02:24 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
God doesn't take a cookie -cutter and make us all the same,there are things that I have personal preferences about,but if those things aren't edicts from God,I don't have the right to impose them on others in the body of Christ.
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07-11-2009, 02:25 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
God doesn't take a cookie -cutter and make us all the same,there are things that I have personal preferences about,but if those things aren't edicts from God,I don't have the right to impose them on others in the body of Christ.
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Amen, and I believe we should distance ourselves from churches that do.
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07-11-2009, 02:27 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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Amen.
(But some have no faith in that either. lol)
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True. So much involved in that - could simply be a person's upbringing that skewed their view even in the church and affected them in whatever circumstance came up.
It's, sort of, like a preacher I heard telling how he loved to sing, but his family always told him he couldn't sing very well. Well, guess what? He has a good voice, but doesn't use it because he never could overcome being self-conscious about it. Another person may overcome it and go on to sing. Not everyone is the same.
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07-11-2009, 02:27 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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In short, if Paul gave liberty for people to do what is not sinful away from those who think it is offensive, then churches should not make people sign papers that require them to keep some ordinances at all times, whether they are around those offended or not.
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What do you think is the motivation for a pastor to require the members to sign such a paper?
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07-11-2009, 02:30 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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What do you think is the motivation for a pastor to require the members to sign such a paper?
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Probably a sincere effort to deal with a problem with some members who cannot restrain themselves. But it is a mistake of acting like God to people who do not want to heed God. We cannot make people do things they refuse to do for the Lord.
If people do not want to do something, it is no use making them do so, for it neither blesses them nor God. It's still in their hearts.
In this particular instance, it was an alternative to actually dealing with certain unrestrained people individually, and was so much easier to bully the issue to everyone from the pulpit. Anyway, it's no church I belong to nor ever did belong to. But it's sad to hear it is happening in some places.
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07-11-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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True. So much involved in that - could simply be a person's upbringing that skewed their view even in the church and affected them in whatever circumstance came up.
It's, sort of, like a preacher I heard telling how he loved to sing, but his family always told him he couldn't sing very well. Well, guess what? He has a good voice, but doesn't use it because he never could overcome being self-conscious about it. Another person may overcome it and go on to sing. Not everyone is the same.
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Right. We have to be very careful with everyone as individuals.
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07-11-2009, 02:32 PM
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Re: The Removal of Romans 14:22
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What do you think is the motivation for a pastor to require the members to sign such a paper?
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Alot of pastors are scared of what their peers think,many people are afraid of being labeled a compromiser,and many pastors want the reputation that they control the saints,and they don't anybody to think that they aren't in control of a flock as so their reputations are tarnished.
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