Excellent point. Most people who have a problem with "organized religion" have a problem with one of two things. The concept of absolute truth or the concept of submitting to a hire power of authority. I will say this...there are those who have been so injured by false systems of organized religion that they are burnt out. Line it up to the Word, try the spirits to see whether they be of God before jumping on board. The early church is our example.
Did you mean higher power or was hire power a pun?
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Some who do not believe in the pastor setup have a elders set up...but have seen abuse under both systems...
Human nature wants to control others...that is why we need balance...and people with a good set of brains!
I believe the pastor should have the authority in his church without a board of elders within the church to rule over him. However, if that particular pastor does not have a man of God or men of God in his life to lead him then he has no hedge. Everyone needs someone to be in submission to. Everyone needs a leader and a voice who can speak with wisdom when one's vision is blurred.
I believe the pastor should have the authority in his church without a board of elders within the church to rule over him. However, if that particular pastor does not have a man of God or men of God in his life to lead him then he has no hedge. Everyone needs someone to be in submission to. Everyone needs a leader and a voice who can speak with wisdom when one's vision is blurred.
I do actually agree with this for the most part. However I DO believe that there needs to be a board in place who monitor all financial matters and are made aware of where every offering cent goes. There should never be a situation where the pastor has a combination of full say in money AND feels like he can keep the records secret.
I do actually agree with this for the most part. However I DO believe that there needs to be a board in place who monitor all financial matters and are made aware of where every offering cent goes. There should never be a situation where the pastor has a combination of full say in money AND feels like he can keep the records secret.
I fully agree with this...our churches in Brazil keep records and give reports...if we have nothing to hide I don't think we will mind giving reports and working together.
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I believe the pastor should have the authority in his church without a board of elders within the church to rule over him. However, if that particular pastor does not have a man of God or men of God in his life to lead him then he has no hedge. Everyone needs someone to be in submission to. Everyone needs a leader and a voice who can speak with wisdom when one's vision is blurred.
The problem is those men of God are not there in that church to witness what is going on. So single leaders having absolute power is a reciple for abuse
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
The problem is those men of God are not there in that church to witness what is going on. So single leaders having absolute power is a reciple for abuse
I understand your point here, i really do. However, i see great potential for error when someone from the congregation has some sort of control over the pastor. How is he then free to teach or preach what he feels led to? If he goes into a church where those on the board do not pay tithes and he begins teaching on tithing, it would be easy for the board to move to dismiss him because his teaching is offensive to them.
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