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[Monkeyman]

Dobson gets on my nerves, I hate (well, really dislike) the windbag Limbaugh, and WPF, they left me! So I really don't care what any of them think!

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

You don't get it.

We are at war. THAT is the issue here. Four to eight years of Obama/Hillary defunding the military, defunding the intelligence community, of pulling out of the Middle East, of abdicating our sovereignty to the UN. We can't afford to "sit it out" because our guy isn't a party line guy. That is stupid. You go ahead and wait four to eight years of the Dems running the show and tell me you were glad they were in the White House and not McCain. I'll bet lots of money you will admit you were wrong.

Sometimes it takes a child abduction to get Amber's Law? Ask Amber's parents.

Really flawed logic. Really, really flawed.

Hillary is not going to be willing to lose the war. As soon as there is a democrat in the whitehouse, you will see a whole turn on the war. This has been political, looking for an advantage.

I will say, though, that once the war is won, Hillary would start dismantling the military behind the scenes so she could pay for her programs.

Fact is, I don't think it is going to matter.

McCain is soft on borders, torture, water boarding, Guantanamo, the economy, taxes. I'm looking at four candidates that can easily destroy years of gains in 4-8 years.

Remember, fighting a war takes an economy that is strong. McCain doesn't know a THING about how to run this economy, nor does Huckabee.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Hillary is not going to be willing to lose the war. As soon as there is a democrat in the whitehouse, you will see a whole turn on the war. This has been political, looking for an advantage.

I will say, though, that once the war is won, Hillary would start dismantling the military behind the scenes so she could pay for her programs.

Fact is, I don't think it is going to matter.

McCain is soft on borders, torture, water boarding, Guantanamo, the economy, taxes. I'm looking at four candidates that can easily destroy years of gains in 4-8 years.

Remember, fighting a war takes an economy that is strong. McCain doesn't know a THING about how to run this economy, nor does Huckabee.

I will not be voting this year.

But if I was, it would be for Huckabee, as he is the closest to the views I would want to support. And I disagree that he knows nothing about this economy. He may not be running over with experience, but he HAS run a state.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

The idea is that the party should provide you a good candidate,

Do you think there is a Republican factory somewhere where they manufacture the candidates? The party should provide? How about a good conservative stepping up to the plate? How about the conservatives providing the party with one? Why won't Rush run or Sean or some other stellar conservative? There's plenty of them out there. But none stepped up, raised the money, Thompson acted like he could care less, Huckabee has done admirably, but he hasn't closed the deal.

Its an off year. The GOP is the best chance the conservative movement has. Moderate Republicans have supported our candidates. Why can't we tolerate one of them this time?

some of you sheeple want to bash conservatives who refuse to support a liberal Republican.

He has voted 82% of the time in agreement with conservatives over the past 24 years. How can you take his 18% liberal votes and call him a Liberal? Its baffling.

It's interesting that you people aren't even claiming he's a good candidate. All you're saying is he's not as bad as Hillary/Obama.

He is dead on right on the war. I see clear enough to see that this is the issue of the hour and that all other issues take a back seat. I am passionate about abortion, gay-rights, immigration, etc. But if we fail to stop the evil that is emerging on the horizon, all of these issues are immaterial. We HAVE to have a president who will fight this war and do it right. McCain will. the other two wil fail miserably to our own peril. In that regard he is a good choice.

On the other points he is right most of the time. I disagree with him on several other issues. But conservatives better understand that this strategy of "teach them a lesson" will have dire consequences if it results in an Obama or Hillary presidency.

And you people dare to insult conservatives who refuse to support him? Whatever. Go vote for him if you want, but stop trashing and insulting the conservatives who refuse to vote for him.

You still don't get it. This is not about getting our way, or winning, or us versus them, or who gets to call the shots in the GOP. This is about America and its future. America being safe from terrorism. America prevailing over evil. Wise up. Its no insult to tell you that your reasons for not voting for McCain are really and seriously wrong. Its the truth and you need to heed our warnings.

We're trying to convince you of a higher principle than conservative political values, or a political philosophy or movement. We are trying to get you to understand that America is in danger if Obama or Hillary wins. McCain will be a very good commander in chief. That's priority #1.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

Just as McCain will not in real life govern as a conservative, neither Hillary nor Obama in real life are going to reverse the war on terror. No matter WHAT they say to get elected by foaming-at-the-mouth MoveOn.org types.

Really? You want to take that chance? So, they promise to pull out by 2009 while running for president. They don't. Their constituents cry foul and go berserk. I am sorry, but Obama and Hillary will govern liberally in their first term b/c they want reelection in 2012. They will make good on that promise. Otherwise they wont get another term. What did Bill do as soon as he took office in 1992? Tampered with the military. Lifted the ban on gays in the military. It was the beginning of eight years of undermining our military and its morale and its strength. The Clinton years set us up for 9/11 and all that has followed ever since.

Don't fool yourself, we will be pulled out of Iraq by the end of 2009 if either H or O get elected. And not a day later.

Have you even listened to Rush make his case about HOW McCain will irrepairably damage the Republican party?

And Rush is always right? I am differing with him on this one. I listen to him everyday, but I don't sit there nodding my head and agreeing with everything he says. The Republican party survived Nixon. It surely can handle McCain.

The suicide voters are sincere and have history on their side, regarding a conservative groundswell following a particularly unpleasant Democrat term.

Please read my post above about the Carter years. This is not about getting a conservative in the White House four to eight years from now. WE HAVE TO GET SOMEONE IN WHO IS NOT A HILLARY OR AN OBAMA! We can't afford the damage they will do to America! I am not worried about damage to the GOP I am am worried about America!

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

Remember, fighting a war takes an economy that is strong. McCain doesn't know a THING about how to run this economy, nor does Huckabee.

Presidents can't do much to the economy except cut or raise taxes, cut or raise government spending. The economy is controlled by the Federal Reserve Board and American and foreign investors and entrepeneurs who provide capital and resources and make choices that build companies and provide jobs.

Presidents are most effective militarily, otherwise they are at the mercy of Wall Street and Main Street.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I will not be voting this year.

But if I was, it would be for Huckabee, as he is the closest to the views I would want to support. And I disagree that he knows nothing about this economy. He may not be running over with experience, but he HAS run a state.

What if its McCain/Huckabee?

[Sister Alvear]

well, most laugh because I don't vote...but I could be right...if the early church were here today I still do not think they would be a part of this world's political system.

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Really? You want to take that chance? So, they promise to pull out by 2009 while running for president. They don't. Their constituents cry foul and go berserk.

Just like George W. Bush, they will toss their constituency enough bones that they will hold their nose and give them a second term.

I am sorry, but Obama and Hillary will govern liberally in their first term b/c they want reelection in 2012. They will make good on that promise. Otherwise they wont get another term.

Too bad it's such a well-kept secret that the surge is working. We may be ready to pull out of Iraq regardless of who is president next term.

What did Bill do as soon as he took office in 1992? Tampered with the military. Lifted the ban on gays in the military. It was the beginning of eight years of undermining our military and its morale and its strength. The Clinton years set us up for 9/11 and all that has followed ever since.

And look at the groundswell of conservative support that arose in reaction. We had a Republican majority in both houses for six years of Bush 43. . . . not that they made much progress on the conservative agenda.

Don't fool yourself, we will be pulled out of Iraq by the end of 2009 if either H or O get elected. And not a day later.

Are you at all capable of savoring the delicious irony of you, of all people, using fear tactics to persuade?

And Rush is always right? I am differing with him on this one. I listen to him everyday, but I don't sit there nodding my head and agreeing with everything he says. The Republican party survived Nixon. It surely can handle McCain.

Rush is right about this: the ascendancy of McCain and his ilk will return the Republican party to its former glory of 45 years of sucking up to Democrats to throw them a bone, because they were always in a minority. Rush is right about this: bi-partisanship today means Republicans giving the Democrats what they want. It always points in just one direction. The media celebrates McCain as a maverick, but he's not a maverick to their leftist principles. They just like him because he angers conservatives. Now look at a true maverick: Joe Lieberman. Bucking the Democrat party gets a man thrown under the bus. They ran him out of the party and threw him in the ditch. The ascendency of McCain means a return to a congress filled with dominant Democrats and fearful, compromising Republicans. The Democrat agenda will hold forth, with small pockets of futile resistance alternately crushed, ridiculed, or scandalized. The Democrat agenda looks a lot like the communist party agenda of the 1960s, doesn't it?

Please read my post above about the Carter years. This is not about getting a conservative in the White House four to eight years from now. WE HAVE TO GET SOMEONE IN WHO IS NOT A HILLARY OR AN OBAMA! We can't afford the damage they will do to America! I am not worried about damage to the GOP I am am worried about America!

Your concern does you credit. A calm and rational analysis of the primary election results clearly shows that the states that are propelling McCain to the lead in the primaries are states that always go for the Democrat in the nationals. Kind of like the media. Their drool for McCain will evaporate like Krazy glue the moment the primaries are over. And then he will be tossed under the bus in favor of the TRUE leftist of the hour.

I agree that we have to get somebody who is not a Hillary or an Obama. I am also perceptive enough to see that it is too late for this election. McCain cannot win in the general election The media have calculated this; it is the reason for their favorable coverage of him.

God will get us through the tough times of insolvent social security, government-controlled medical care, and French-fried foreign policy.

[Sister Alvear]

America is headed for dark days if you ask me...too long she has forgotton her maker. While millions of christians suffer and die on foreign fields America is lukewarm as a whole...