To All CAF'ers, EA'ers, and AFF'ers

[SDG]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Wait a second.
Are you really serious with this?

So according to your own estimate, maybe 20% of Apostolics have a problem with interracial relationships and marraiages......and you're making it sound like you think that's an acceptable number!!??

Think about that -- we're talking about 1 out of 5 "saints".
Good grief.

These are ministers at CAF.... TR ... who affect entire congregations.

The numbers are disturbing ... but par for the course I believe considering the venue.

As for EA ... it was obvious it was a bastion of extremism and intolerance at very first glance ...

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

I'm about to post this on EA in response to an interracial marriage thread. This was one of many reasons I resigned membership on CAF.

I hope you CAF'ers read this too!

Why is this thread even on this Forum? Just wondering?

[jaxfam6]

my two cents
=)

There is a couple at our church that is hispanic and black. Very sweet couple. Love them dearly. Friends of mine back in Ohio, a white girl married to a bi-racial boy. Again very sweet couple.
Another couple I know of, black girl and white boy. AGAIN very sweet couple.
I do not know of issues they have with others looking at them oddly or anything. If it happens they must not talk about it. Everyone I know treats them like anyother couple.
I also know that I hope I have no problem with it because I have the feeling that I am going to have two sons, at least, married to women who are either black, asian, or hispanic.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Why is this thread even on this Forum? Just wondering?

(I'm guessing here but...)

Maybe to bring awareness to the idea that prejudice is more of a prevalent problem in Apostolic circles than we might like to admit?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

(I'm guessing here but...)

Maybe to bring awareness to the idea that prejudice is more of a prevalent problem in Apostolic circles than we might like to admit?

I think the issue could be discussed without - "I resigned membership on CAF. I hope you CAF'ers read this too!"

Just the "in your face" thing. I guess I just don't like it. Private discussion/conversation is totally a different ball game, IMO.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I think the issue could be discussed without - "I resigned membership on CAF. I hope you CAF'ers read this too!"

Just the "in your face" thing. I guess I just don't like it. Private discussion/conversation is totally a different ball game, IMO.

Well, pardon the Jesus analogy here but...

Jesus was pretty "in your face" at times too, as was John the Baptist.

"In your face" isn't always a bad thing.

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Thumper

You can parse all the anonymous quotes you want to make these men look as bad as you want but the fact remains that the general discourse on this subject was overwhelmingly positive towards interracial marriage. You however have chosen to misrepresent that by taking a small minoritys position and projecting that on the entire group.

Also, for your information, it is not my forum as you stated in your first paragraph. I rarely post there and don't imagine that I have in the last 3 months. However I can read. So, as such, I have no stake in matter except when I see a lie being told that needs to be corrected.

Thumper,

Please read my entry post! I never affirmed CAF's entire membership roster as anti-interracial marriage, thus rendering your accusations preposterous and absurd!

You stated: "general discourse on this subject was overwhelmingly positive towards interracial marriage."

In overwhelming one must overcome by superior force or numbers. In this circumstance the numbers were 20% opposing interracial marriage.It's that percentage that misrepresents your forum! Get your facts straight sir, I've not misrepresented nobody!

Once again I never lied! You confirmed the percentage in a previous post.



p.s. stay away from country music, it's polluting your soul!

[Sister Alvear]

my husband just said he was going to join ...CA...we will see...

I do have some good friends there but I don´t think women are allowed over there I don´t know for sure...maybe someone could tell us.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Thumper

You can parse all the anonymous quotes you want to make these men look as bad as you want but the fact remains that the general discourse on this subject was overwhelmingly positive towards interracial marriage. You however have chosen to misrepresent that by taking a small minoritys position and projecting that on the entire group.

Also, for your information, it is not my forum as you stated in your first paragraph. I rarely post there and don't imagine that I have in the last 3 months. However I can read. So, as such, I have no stake in matter except when I see a lie being told that needs to be corrected.

Allow me to jump in with a question here:

If in 2008, approximately 1 out of 5 members of an Apostolic Christian forum were against interracial marriage (20%...your numbers)... do you not consider those numbers to be disturbing?

[Tyrel Sackett]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

I'm about to post this on EA in response to an interracial marriage thread. This was one of many reasons I resigned membership on CAF.
I hope you CAF'ers read this too!


I'll start by openly declaring I'm for interracial marriages! Sadly, I'm acquainted with pastors and even saints which refuse to acknowledge interracial marriages, and advise against it. The despicable excuses utilized to advise against interracial marriages are 'think of society and/or culture, what will they say" or "think of the children, it will be hard on them growing up."

To pastors and saints adhering to the idiotic excuses above, to them I reply in the following fashion. Sir/Mrs/Ms, if you're worried what society/culture might think, you best leave the church and train your children in the ways of sin!

Attention readers, society has already ostracized us! We're already ridiculed and condemned for serving and obeying God! Being ridiculed for interracial marriage shouldn't make anymore of a difference. Children and teens are still ridiculed for dressing holy, not participating in certain events, and being identified as a pentecostal! My Goodness, we're already accused of being demoniacally possessed for speaking in tongues!

I'll boldly state I forbid society to dictate the love shared between any Holy Ghost filled interracial couple!

Any I'll leave the following message to those whom are against interracial marriage. Matthew 19:6 reads "..... What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

When you prevent or advise against marriage between saints, due solely to ethnicity, you're in direct violation of God's divine mandate! You're also found on dangerous ground by putting asunder what God has joined together!

I think these so-called Pentecostals bearing these excuses have deeper underlying issues and need a real Holy-Ghost experience.

Blessings,
Bro. A.C.

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

What views? We're discussing interracial marriage only. According to thumper's response, 20% percent of CAF posters opposed interracial marriage.

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Thumper,

Please read my entry post! I never affirmed CAF's entire membership roster as anti-interracial marriage, thus rendering your accusations preposterous and absurd!

You stated: "general discourse on this subject was overwhelmingly positive towards interracial marriage."

In overwhelming one must overcome by superior force or numbers. In this circumstance the numbers were 20% opposed interracial marriage.It's that percentage that misrepresents your forum! Get your facts straight sir, I've not misrepresented nobody!
Once again I never lied! You confirmed the percentage in a previous post.



p.s. stay away from country music, it's polluting your soul!

The way that you posted this thread is insinuating that you got off of CAF due to the overwhelming opinion of ministers that were against interacial marriages. That is not the truth.

I ask the question: You got of of CAF because 20% disagreed with you? What kind of joke is that? I did read that you said one of the "many" reasons, but I kind of find it hilarious that 20% of CAF would disagree with you and you get your feeling hurt and run off.

I don't guess I get the second bolded section. Please help me so I can answer you better. And I do think that you have misrepresented the CAF. Again, my reason for stating this is that you make it sound as if the overwhelming majority opposes the interacial marriage. That is obviously not true.

I await your response.