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06-25-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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[ Rev 11:19] And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
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The ark on earth that Moses had built was a copy of the one in heaven.
The earthly tabernacle was a model or replica of the divine one in heaven.
Exodus 25:9; Hebrews 8:1-5
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06-25-2009, 11:45 PM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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The ark on earth that Moses had built was a copy of the one in heaven.
The earthly tabernacle was a model or replica of the divine one in heaven.
Exodus 25:9; Hebrews 8:1-5
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Now that makes more sense. Amen. Although I do not believe the true ark in Heaven is a physical gold box.  The ark is actually a symbol of God's throne. Isaiah saw the seraphims over atop the throne of God, just like cherubims cover the ark of the Covenant on earth. When John saw Heaven in Revelation 4, the same order of the throne, the seats, the 7 lamps and the sea with four beasts is the exact same order as when Moses was told to make the ark, the table of shewbread, the 7 branched candlestick and the veil with cherubims. The ark corresponds to the throne of God.
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06-26-2009, 12:15 AM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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Now that makes more sense. Amen. Although I do not believe the true ark in Heaven is a physical gold box.  The ark is actually a symbol of God's throne. Isaiah saw the seraphims over atop the throne of God, just like cherubims cover the ark of the Covenant on earth. When John saw Heaven in Revelation 4, the same order of the throne, the seats, the 7 lamps and the sea with four beasts is the exact same order as when Moses was told to make the ark, the table of shewbread, the 7 branched candlestick and the veil with cherubims. The ark corresponds to the throne of God.
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Blume, Blume, Blume!!!! We are trying to form up a fictional movie sequel here and you go and mess it up with figures, stats and facts! Stop that! This is all about FICTION!!!!
Wait! There might be a part for you! They need some more German guards for the movie!
I could just see it, you in a move with Texas Baxter!
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06-26-2009, 10:31 AM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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Blume, Blume, Blume!!!! We are trying to form up a fictional movie sequel here and you go and mess it up with figures, stats and facts! Stop that! This is all about FICTION!!!!
Wait! There might be a part for you! They need some more German guards for the movie!
I could just see it, you in a move with Texas Baxter!
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Welllll... I do have German blood in me and my last name is German.
hmmmm....
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06-26-2009, 08:32 PM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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Now that makes more sense. Amen. Although I do not believe the true ark in Heaven is a physical gold box.  The ark is actually a symbol of God's throne. Isaiah saw the seraphims over atop the throne of God, just like cherubims cover the ark of the Covenant on earth. When John saw Heaven in Revelation 4, the same order of the throne, the seats, the 7 lamps and the sea with four beasts is the exact same order as when Moses was told to make the ark, the table of shewbread, the 7 branched candlestick and the veil with cherubims. The ark corresponds to the throne of God.
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Hey, you do realize I said that before Sam did? Don't I get some points too?
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06-26-2009, 05:41 AM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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Originally Posted by Sam
The ark on earth that Moses had built was a copy of the one in heaven.
The earthly tabernacle was a model or replica of the divine one in heaven.
Exodus 25:9; Hebrews 8:1-5
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I think what I find compelling is that the ark mentioned in Revelation 11:19 isn't called, "the ark of God" or "ark of Heaven". It is the "ark of the testament" (or covenant). A covenant is established by at least two parties. If something is relating to that covenant it was present at the establishment of said covenant. That being said, I believe that the ark mentioned in Revelation 11:19 actually contains the Law of Moses that was present at the time of the covenant between God and Israel making it the ark we are so familiar with.
I think this is a sound position because too many Christians have made themselves look like idiots with outlandish claims and speculations regarding the ark. Also futurists salivate over the idea of finding the ark, because the soon appearance of a rebuilt temple is the implication. They are trying to use headlines and snippets from tabloids to support their theology. But if you guys want to go on speculating with them every year about "ark this" or "ark that"... be my guest.
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06-26-2009, 07:56 AM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I think what I find compelling is that the ark mentioned in Revelation 11:19 isn't called, "the ark of God" or "ark of Heaven". It is the "ark of the testament" (or covenant). A covenant is established by at least two parties. If something is relating to that covenant it was present at the establishment of said covenant. That being said, I believe that the ark mentioned in Revelation 11:19 actually contains the Law of Moses that was present at the time of the covenant between God and Israel making it the ark we are so familiar with.
I think this is a sound position because too many Christians have made themselves look like idiots with outlandish claims and speculations regarding the ark. Also futurists salivate over the idea of finding the ark, because the soon appearance of a rebuilt temple is the implication. They are trying to use headlines and snippets from tabloids to support their theology. But if you guys want to go on speculating with them every year about "ark this" or "ark that"... be my guest. 
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True dat!
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06-25-2009, 03:33 PM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
Ok here comes another debate about a box.....get out the popcorn.... Aquila vs. Mfblume
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06-25-2009, 06:24 PM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
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Ok here comes another debate about a box.....get out the popcorn.... Aquila vs. Mfblume
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LoL. LOL. LoL.
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06-25-2009, 03:33 PM
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Re: Ark Of The Covenant to be Unveiled?
I've known about this discovery for a long time. Actually, I was the original discoverer but it was stolen from me. Is it the original ark? I'm not telling at this point.
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