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Thanks. I will read it soon. So he is saying Justification and Salvation are not equals?
I read it, and the impression I got was that he was NOT separating the two.


Maybe I read into it and this is just my bias, but his paper amounts to a proclamation that justification and thus salvation happens at (faith) repentance.


Can a person have God's righteousness "imputed" into her and still be unsaved?

That would not make sense.




So that is why he ended his paper with questions.

Any definitive statements after that paper would be contradictory to what is referred to as the "3 steps" for full salvation preached by most Apostolics today.
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I read it, and the impression I got was that he was NOT separating the two.


Maybe I read into it and this is just my bias, but his paper amounts to a proclamation that justification and thus salvation happens at (faith) repentance.

Can a person have God's righteousness "imputed" into her and still be unsaved?

Again you assume way to much here. Justification is a simple concept. God sees a consider/judges/ it can be of good or bad judgment toward a individual. This is clear all througout the OT. Also the word imputed is not very good choice either. It is properly more known as how God's righteousness is done.


We receive "justice" done on our behalf BY or THROUGH faith. That does not mean we receive it at the point of mental assent or agreement of something being true. It is good as James says but it has nothing to do with the blood of Christ. Baptism is the place of covenant and realization of the work of atonement. God can judge something or someone "just" and it have nothing to do with atonement. Will justification involve atonement? Yes but God judges things all the time right or wrong responses and it have nothing to do with atonement. You believe? Good. What do you believe and what is the context for your "belief" be realized? Example... God told Abraham to walk before him and be blameless so that he could make covenant with him and told him to circumcise. What circumcision "just"? Yes! Because is was God's Word contextualized as faith. He could not be considered "just" until he did what required. Which James points to. Which is why his version the "believed" is NOT about a moment in time but COMPLETED/FULFILLED in the offering of Isaac. Believe cannot be TWO THINGS inthe context. Either the view of "believed" was fulfilled at Isaac in Gen 15:6 or it was fulfilled at Gen 15:6. It can't be both. My view is Paul is not saying a moment of belief but is also seeing it as a whole in view but that whole view was BEFORE circumcision. Thus faith/believed must be defined to the context. Another example...You ask Peter what must I do? He says repent be baptized etc... Define faith! Faith cannot be seen without the conclusion of the context which is clearly by James says faith without works is dead and you are not justified by "faith" alone. Thus James is giving context to what is viewed in as "believed" which would argue against Segraves point. That nothing was in view but simple mental agreement.

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that would be because you understanding of justification is limited to certain structures of theology verses what the whole says. It's not your fault it's just why there is such a contradiction among beliefs. The incorrect perception of justification as a base meaning and application makes contradictions when seen through the lens of reformed theology. Thus you have people arguing scripture against scripture that is clear. Baptism is very clear in meaning and yet "faith alone" justification seems to be against it. Then you have people trying to bit baptism and everything else into the same incorrect paradigm of justification. More problems. Am I justified
(considered just) by faith? Yes! Faith is a contextual term and God's righteousness/justice done toward faith is a whole different ballgame as it is even based more on context.




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So that is why he ended his paper with questions.

Any definitive statements after that paper would be contradictory to what is referred to as the "3 steps" for full salvation preached by most Apostolics today.
uh no it wouldn't. I would agree with Segraves on that point if true that justification is not directly salvation in the sesne of atonement applied. Justification of course will be part of salvation as one cannot come before God to enter into covenant unless "he sees" (considers/judges) the heart is turned aright to him FOR atonement. There are several levels or applications of how justification is seen in the Bible. The problem is people want to bunch justification into one big ball of atonement and that is not the case.

Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.


We must first be turned to God before we can partake in atonement. Thus your heart must be believing and trusting in God and turned completely to him no matter the cost. Otherwise your offering yourself to be united with him will not be accepted in baptism.

Note: Even if James and Paul are arguing against each other.... justification within the scope of atonement and covenant etc... Is not effected in any way. Because simple belief does not place you into covenant within view of justification of Gen 15:6 and how God deals everytime with Abraham. With Abraham this is consistent. God asks and he then responds with covenant. That is CLEAR in scripture not matter when God considers a action just or not.

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A most excellent discussion. Thanks for making the Segraves paper available.

Yet, I think there remains some element of confusion over terms, which I hope the attached word document might assist in clearing up.

There are five theological/doctrinal terms that seem to give most everyone some degree of difficulty, primarily because they contain some shared elements of meaning and application. Those words are: Justification, Sanctification, Salvation, Redemption, and Regeneration.

In order to provide a solid foundation for the understanding of these terms, I went back to a classic Christian source, Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary. Also included are references to more modern special and general dictionary definitions for comparison studies. While there may be small alterations in the religious definitions over the intervening years, according to changes in the theologies of various religious movements, using this source provides a coherent and integrated base for exploring those differences. Where no differences are present, then the cited source fulfills its purpose in providing the required language foundation from which to continue a meaningful discussion.

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jus•ti•fi•ca•tion
[juhs-tuh-fi-key-shuh n]
–noun
1.
a reason, fact, circumstance, or explanation that justifies or defends: His insulting you was ample justification for you to leave the party.
2.
an act of justifying: The painter's justification of his failure to finish on time didn't impress me.
3.
the state of being justified.
4.
Also called justification by faith. Theology. the act of God whereby humankind is made or accounted just, or free from guilt or penalty of sin.
5.
Printing. the spacing of words and letters within a line of type so that all full lines in a column have even margins both on the left and on the right.
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1350–1400; ME < LL jūstificātiōn- (s. of jūstificātiō), equiv. to jūstificāt(us) ptp. of jūstificāre to justify (see justificatory) + -iōn- -ion-

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re•jus•ti•fi•ca•tion, noun
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jus•ti•fi•ca•tion (jŭs'tə-fĭ-kā'shən) n.
1.
a. The act of justifying.
b. The condition or fact of being justified.
2. Something, such as a fact or circumstance, that justifies: considered misgovernment to be a justification for revolution. See Synonyms at apology.

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Main Entry: jus•ti•fi•ca•tion
Pronunciation: "j&s-t&-f&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the act or an instance of justifying
2 : something that justifies; specifically : a legally sufficient reason or cause (as self-defense) for an act that would otherwise be criminal or tortious
3 : the affirmative defense of having a legally sufficient justification —compare EXCUSE
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Justification definition
a forensic term, opposed to condemnation. As regards its nature, it is the judicial act of God, by which he pardons all the sins of those who believe in Christ, and accounts, accepts, and treats them as righteous in the eye of the law, i.e., as conformed to all its demands. In addition to the pardon (q.v.) of sin, justification declares that all the claims of the law are satisfied in respect of the justified. It is the act of a judge and not of a sovereign. The law is not relaxed or set aside, but is declared to be fulfilled in the strictest sense; and so the person justified is declared to be entitled to all the advantages and rewards arising from perfect obedience to the law (Rom. 5:1-10). It proceeds on the imputing or crediting to the believer by God himself of the perfect righteousness, active and passive, of his Representative and Surety, Jesus Christ (Rom. 10:3-9). Justification is not the forgiveness of a man without righteousness, but a declaration that he possesses a righteousness which perfectly and for ever satisfies the law, namely, Christ's righteousness (2 Cor. 5:21; Rom. 4:6-8). The sole condition on which this righteousness is imputed or credited to the believer is faith in or on the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith is called a "condition," not because it possesses any merit, but only because it is the instrument, the only instrument by which the soul appropriates or apprehends Christ and his righteousness (Rom. 1:17; 3:25, 26; 4:20, 22; Phil. 3:8-11; Gal. 2:16). The act of faith which thus secures our justification secures also at the same time our sanctification (q.v.); and thus the doctrine of justification by faith does not lead to licentiousness (Rom. 6:2-7). Good works, while not the ground, are the certain consequence of justification (6:14; 7:6). (See GALATIANS, EPISTLE TO.)
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Sanctification
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sanc•ti•fy
[sangk-tuh-fahy] –verb (used with object),-fied, -fy•ing.
1.
to make holy; set apart as sacred; consecrate.
2.
to purify or free from sin: Sanctify your hearts.
3.
to impart religious sanction to; render legitimate or binding: to sanctify a vow.
4.
to entitle to reverence or respect.
5.
to make productive of or conducive to spiritual blessing.
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Origin:
1350–1400; < LL sānctificāre (see Sanctus, -ify); r. ME seintefien < OF saintifier < L, as above

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sanc•ti•fi•a•ble, adjective
sanc•ti•fi•a•ble•ness, noun
sanc•ti•fi•a•bly, adverb
sanc•ti•fi•ca•tion, noun
sanc•ti•fi•er, noun
sanc•ti•fy•ing•ly, adverb
non•sanc•ti•fi•ca•tion, noun
pre•sanc•ti•fy, verb (used with object),-fied, -fy•ing.
self-sanc•ti•fi•ca•tion, noun
un•sanc•ti•fy•ing, adjective

—Synonyms
1. bless, hallow, anoint, enshrine, exalt.
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sanctify
late 14c., seintefie "to consecrate," from O.Fr. saintifier (12c.), from L.L. sanctificare "to make holy," from sanctus "holy" (see saint) + root of facere "to make" (see factitious). Form altered to conform with Latin. Meaning "to render holy or legitimate by religious sanction" is from c.1400; transfered sense of "to render worthy of respect" is from c.1600.
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sanc•ti•fy (sāngk'tə-fī')
tr.v. sanc•ti•fied, sanc•ti•fy•ing, sanc•ti•fies

1. To set apart for sacred use; consecrate.
2. To make holy; purify.
3. To give religious sanction to, as with an oath or vow: sanctify a marriage.
4. To give social or moral sanction to.
5. To make productive of holiness or spiritual blessing.

[Middle English seintefien, sanctifien, from Old French saintifier, from Late Latin sānctificāre : Latin sānctus, holy, from past participle of sancīre, to consecrate; see sak- in Indo-European roots + Latin -ficāre, -fy.]
sanc'ti•fi•ca'tion (-fĭ-kā'shən) n., sanc'ti•fi'er n.
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Sanctification definition
involves more than a mere moral reformation of character, brought about by the power of the truth: it is the work of the Holy Spirit bringing the whole nature more and more under the influences of the new gracious principles implanted in the soul in regeneration. In other words, sanctification is the carrying on to perfection the work begun in regeneration, and it extends to the whole man (Rom. 6:13; 2 Cor. 4:6; Col. 3:10; 1 John 4:7; 1 Cor. 6:19). It is the special office of the Holy Spirit in the plan of redemption to carry on this work (1 Cor. 6:11; 2 Thess. 2:13). Faith is instrumental in securing sanctification, inasmuch as it (1) secures union to Christ (Gal. 2:20), and (2) brings the believer into living contact with the truth, whereby he is led to yield obedience "to the commands, trembling at the threatenings, and embracing the promises of God for this life and that which is to come." Perfect sanctification is not attainable in this life (1 Kings 8:46; Prov. 20:9; Eccl. 7:20; James 3:2; 1 John 1:8). See Paul's account of himself in Rom. 7:14-25; Phil. 3:12-14; and 1 Tim. 1:15; also the confessions of David (Ps. 19:12, 13; 51), of Moses (90:8), of Job (42:5, 6), and of Daniel (9:3-20). "The more holy a man is, the more humble, self-renouncing, self-abhorring, and the more sensitive to every sin he becomes, and the more closely he clings to Christ. The moral imperfections which cling to him he feels to be sins, which he laments and strives to overcome. Believers find that their life is a constant warfare, and they need to take the kingdom of heaven by storm, and watch while they pray. They are always subject to the constant chastisement of their Father's loving hand, which can only be designed to correct their imperfections and to confirm their graces. And it has been notoriously the fact that the best Christians have been those who have been the least prone to claim the attainment of perfection for themselves.", Hodge's Outlines.
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sal•va•tion
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1.
the act of saving or protecting from harm, risk, loss, destruction, etc.
2.
the state of being saved or protected from harm, risk, etc.
3.
a source, cause, or means of being saved or protected from harm, risk, etc.
4.
Theology. deliverance from the power and penalty of sin; redemption.
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1175–1225; ME salvatio(u)n < LL salvātiōn- (s. of salvātiō), equiv. to salvāt(us) (ptp. of salvāre to save1; see -ate1) + -iōn- -ion; r. ME sa(u)vaciun, sauvacion < OF sauvacion < LL, as above

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salvation
early 13c., originally in the Christian sense, from O.Fr. salvaciun, from L.L. salvationem (nom. salvatio, a Church L. translation of Gk. soteria), noun of action from salvare "to save" (see save). In general (non-religious) sense, attested from late 14c. Meaning "source of salvation" is from late 14c. Salvation Army is from 1878, founded by the Rev. William Booth. The verb salve "to save from loss at sea" (1706) is a back-formation.
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sal•va•tion (sāl-vā'shən)
n.
1.
a. Preservation or deliverance from destruction, difficulty, or evil.
b. A source, means, or cause of such preservation or deliverance.
c. Deliverance from the power or penalty of sin; redemption.
d. The agent or means that brings about such deliverance.
2. Christianity
a. Deliverance from the power or penalty of sin; redemption.
b. The agent or means that brings about such deliverance.

[Middle English savacioun, from Old French sauvacion, from Late Latin salvātiō, salvātiōn-, from salvātus, past participle of salvāre, to save; see salvage.]
sal•va'tion•al adj.
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salvation definition
Being “saved” among Christians; salvation is freedom from the effects of the Fall of Man. This freedom comes through faith in Jesus, who is called in the New Testament “the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.” The Apostles taught that those who experience salvation in their lifetime on Earth and continue in their friendship with God will inherit eternal happiness in heaven.
salvation definition
In Christianity, union or friendship with God and deliverance from original sin and damnation. Jesus promised salvation to his followers.
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Salvation definition
This word is used of the deliverance of the Israelites from the Egyptians (Ex. 14:13), and of deliverance generally from evil or danger. In the New Testament it is specially used with reference to the great deliverance from the guilt and the pollution of sin wrought out by Jesus Christ, "the great salvation" (Heb. 2:3). (See REDEMPTION ŘT0003084; REGENERATION.)
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REDEMPTION
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Redemption definition
The return of an investor's principal in a security, such as a stock, bond, or mutual fund.
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Redemption of mutual fund shares from a mutual fund company must occur within seven days of receiving a request for redemption from the investor.
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re•demp•tion
ri-demp-shuh n]
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1.
an act of redeeming or the state of being redeemed.
2.
deliverance; rescue.
3.
Theology. deliverance from sin; salvation.
4.
atonement for guilt.
5.
repurchase, as of something sold.
6.
paying off, as of a mortgage, bond, or note.
7.
recovery by payment, as of something pledged.
8.
conversion of paper money into specie.
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1300–50; ME redempcioun (< MF redemption) < LL redēmptiōn- (s. of redēmptiō), equiv. to L redēmpt(us) (ptp. of redimere to redeem) + -iōn- -ion

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re•demp•tion•al, adjective
re•demp•tion•less, adjective
non•re•demp•tion, noun
post•re•demp•tion, noun
pre•re•demp•tion, noun
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c.1340, "deliverance from sin," from L. redemptionem (nom. redemptio) "a buying back, releasing, ransoming," from redemptus, pp. of redimere "to redeem, buy back," from re- "back" + emere "to take, buy, gain, procure" (see exempt). The -d- is from the Old L. habit of using red- as the form of re- before vowels, and this is practically the sole Eng. word in which it survives. Redemptorist is from Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer (founded Naples, 1732, by St. Alphonsus Liguori). In the Mercian hymns, L. redemptionem is glossed by O.E. alesnisse.
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re•demp•tion (rĭ-děmp'shən) n.
1. The act of redeeming or the condition of having been redeemed.
2. Recovery of something pawned or mortgaged.
3. The payment of an obligation, as a government's payment of the value of its bonds.
4. Deliverance upon payment of ransom; rescue.
5. Christianity Salvation from sin through Jesus's sacrifice.

[Middle English redempcioun, from Old French redemption, from Latin redēmptiō, redēmptiōn-, from redēmptus, past participle of redimere, to redeem; see redeem.]
re•demp'tion•al, re•demp'tive, re•demp'to•ry (-tə-rē) adj.
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Main Entry: re•demp•tion
Pronunciation: ri-'demp-sh&n
Function: noun
: the act, process, or fact of redeeming —see also EQUITY OF REDEMPTION, RIGHT OF REDEMPTION —re•demp•tive /-'demp-tiv/ adjective
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redemption definition

The retirement of a security by repurchase. Although generally used in reference to the repurchase of a bond before maturity, the term also applies to stock and mutual fund shares. See also partial redemption.

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Redemption definition
the purchase back of something that had been lost, by the payment of a ransom. The Greek word so rendered is _apolutrosis_, a word occurring nine times in Scripture, and always with the idea of a ransom or price paid, i.e., redemption by a lutron (see Matt. 20:28; Mark 10:45). There are instances in the LXX. Version of the Old Testament of the use of _lutron_ in man's relation to man (Lev. 19:20; 25:51; Ex. 21:30; Num. 35:31, 32; Isa. 45:13; Prov. 6:35), and in the same sense of man's relation to God (Num. 3:49; 18:15). There are many passages in the New Testament which represent Christ's sufferings under the idea of a ransom or price, and the result thereby secured is a purchase or redemption (comp. Acts 20:28; 1 Cor. 6:19, 20; Gal. 3:13; 4:4, 5; Eph. 1:7; Col. 1:14; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6; Titus 2:14; Heb. 9:12; 1 Pet. 1:18, 19; Rev. 5:9). The idea running through all these texts, however various their reference, is that of payment made for our redemption. The debt against us is not viewed as simply cancelled, but is fully paid. Christ's blood or life, which he surrendered for them, is the "ransom" by which the deliverance of his people from the servitude of sin and from its penal consequences is secured. It is the plain doctrine of Scripture that "Christ saves us neither by the mere exercise of power, nor by his doctrine, nor by his example, nor by the moral influence which he exerted, nor by any subjective influence on his people, whether natural or mystical, but as a satisfaction to divine justice, as an expiation for sin, and as a ransom from the curse and authority of the law, thus reconciling us to God by making it consistent with his perfection to exercise mercy toward sinners" (Hodge's Systematic Theology).
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re•gen•er•a•tion
[ri-jen-uh-rey-shuh n]
–noun
1.
act of regenerating; state of being regenerated.
2.
Electronics. a feedback process in which energy from the output of an amplifier is fed back to the grid circuit to reinforce the input.
3.
Biology. the restoration or new growth by an organism of organs, tissues, etc., that have been lost, removed, or injured.
4.
Theology. spiritual rebirth; religious revival.
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1300–50; ME regeneracion < LL regenerātiōn- (s. of regenerātiō). See regenerate, -ion

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regeneration
c.1300, from L.L. regenerationem (nom. regeneratio) "a being born again," from L. regeneratus, pp. of regenerare "make over, generate again," from re- "again" + generare "to produce" (see generation). Specifically of animal tissue, 1540s; of forests, 1888.
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re•gen•er•a•tion (rĭ-jěn'ə-rā'shən) n.
1. The act or process of regenerating or the state of being regenerated.
2. Spiritual or moral revival or rebirth.
3. Biology Regrowth of lost or destroyed parts or organs.
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re•gen•er•a•tion definition
Pronunciation: /ri-ˌjen-ə-ˈrā-shən, ˌrē-/
Function: n
1 : an act or the process of regenerating : the state of being regenerated
2 : the renewal, regrowth, or restoration of a body or a bodily part, tissue, or substance after injury or as a normal bodily process <continual regeneration of epithelial cells><regeneration of the uterine lining>compare REGULATION 2A
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regeneration re•gen•er•a•tion (rĭ-jěn'ə-rā'shən)
n.
Regrowth of lost or destroyed parts or organs.
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regeneration (rĭ-jěn'ə-rā'shən) Pronunciation Key
The regrowth of lost or destroyed parts or organs.


Our Living Language : Regeneration of parts or, in some cases, nearly the entire body of an organism from a part, is more common than one might think. Many protists like the amoeba that have been cut in half can grow back into a complete organism so long as enough of the nuclear material is undamaged. Severed cell parts, such as flagella, can also be regrown in protists. New plants can be grown from cuttings, and plants can often be regenerated from a mass of fully differentiated cells (such as a section of a carrot root), which, if isolated in a suitable environment, turn into a mass of undifferentiated cells that develop into a fully differentiated organism. The capacity for regeneration varies widely in animals, with some able to regenerate whole limbs and others not, but the capacity is reduced significantly in more complex animals. Certain simple invertebrates like the hydra are always regenerating themselves. If cut into tiny pieces that are then mixed up, the pieces can reorganize themselves and grow back into a complete organism. Flatworms have the capacity to regenerate themselves from only a small mass of cells. If they are chopped up into fine pieces, each piece has the capacity to develop into an entire organism. Starfish, which are echinoderms, can regenerate their entire body from their central section and a single arm. Newts and salamanders can regenerate lost legs and parts of eyes, but many other amphibians such as frogs and toads cannot. Certain lizards can regenerate their tails. In many animals, these regenerated body parts are not as large as the originals but are usually sufficient to be functional. Many higher animals such as mammals regularly regenerate certain tissues such as hair and skin and portions of others such as bone, but most tissues cannot be regenerated. About 75 percent of the human liver can be removed, and it will regenerate into a functional organ. The physiological reasons for this are still not understood. Regeneration in this case takes the form of the enlargement of the remaining structures rather than the re-creation of the lost ones. Thus, there are four mechanisms for tissue regeneration in animals: the reorganization of existing cells (as in the hydra), the differentiation of stored stem cells into the specific tissues needed (as in the salamander), the dedifferentiation of neighboring tissue cells and their subsequent regrowth as cells of the needed type (as in plants as well as certain animals like the salamander), and the compensatory growth of the surviving cells of the specific tissue (as in the human liver). There is a great interest in stem cells because of their potential use in regenerating body tissues, such as nerve cells and heart muscle. The biochemical mechanisms for dedifferentiation are also the subject of intense study.
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Regeneration definition

only found in Matt. 19:28 and Titus 3:5. This word literally means a "new birth." The Greek word so rendered (palingenesia) is used by classical writers with reference to the changes produced by the return of spring. In Matt. 19:28 the word is equivalent to the "restitution of all things" (Acts 3:21). In Titus 3:5 it denotes that change of heart elsewhere spoken of as a passing from death to life (1 John 3:14); becoming a new creature in Christ Jesus (2 Cor. 5:17); being born again (John 3:5); a renewal of the mind (Rom. 12:2); a resurrection from the dead (Eph. 2:6); a being quickened (2:1, 5). This change is ascribed to the Holy Spirit. It originates not with man but with God (John 1:12, 13; 1 John 2:29; 5:1, 4). As to the nature of the change, it consists in the implanting of a new principle or disposition in the soul; the impartation of spiritual life to those who are by nature "dead in trespasses and sins." The necessity of such a change is emphatically affirmed in Scripture (John 3:3; Rom. 7:18; 8:7-9; 1 Cor. 2:14; Eph. 2:1; 4:21-24).
Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary

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regeneration
in biology, the process by which some organisms replace or restore lost or amputated body parts
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I realize that this kind of study can be tedious. However, for those who would be teachers, and for those who desire a deeper understanding of their relationship with God (working out one's own salvation - with both knowledge and understanding), such studies are necessary. Even so, it is not required that one should 'understand God'.

Frequently 'simple' faith has the greater power and authority in the kingdom of God than all of the knowledge contained in the world concerning the nature of God. We can get things so 'right', that we miss the simple truth of 'relationship'.
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But he argues basis of our justification, and thus our righteousness is the blood of Jesus Christ-- not water baptism, not speaking in tongues.

You are correct, Jermyn. I sat in his classes for three years and he's not talking about one of the 142 steps before salvation. He's talking about the real deal, but he's careful to use terms that won't get him shot on sight at any UPC event.
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You are correct, Jermyn. I sat in his classes for three years and he's not talking about one of the 142 steps before salvation. He's talking about the real deal, but he's careful to use terms that won't get him shot on sight at any UPC event.
hmmm I will have to find Mr. Segraves at a event and ask him about his view on this. Don't know the man though I have many of his works. I didn't know Bernard until once long ago I discussed something with him concerning doctrine that he found quite compelling. I will have to ask his thoughts which should be a interesting. Oh and you don't get away with cloaked terms and phrases with me.
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In order to provide a solid foundation for the understanding of these terms, I went back to a classic Christian source, Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary.
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Going back to 1897 presents a problem.
The three-step doctrine as believed by many in the UPC doesn't go back that far. It was not believed or taught by the first century apostles. It was taught in a form by the Roman Catholic Church as baptismal regeneration. It was not taught by those who called themselves Apostolic in the first few decades of the 1900's. It is a later concept that has been developed among some Apostolics or Pentecostals but not agreed to by many of the leadership when the UPC was formed.
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