Does Everyone Live Forever?

[JamesGlen]

1 Thess. 5


May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Question: What is a spirit, and what is a soul?
What are each “made up” of?


Regarding the non born again unbeliever, are both of each(spirit AND soul) destroyed, perishing from existence at some point?

The sinners spirit destroyed?
The sinners soul destroyed?
How exactly does that happen?



Is human spirit simply the breathe of life from God?


Somebody lay it out crystal clear for me

[TyronePalmer]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

1 Thess. 5


May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Question: What is a spirit, and what is a soul?
What are each “made up” of?


Regarding the non born again unbeliever, are both of each(spirit AND soul) destroyed, perishing from existence at some point?

The sinners spirit destroyed?
The sinners soul destroyed?
How exactly does that happen?



Is human spirit simply the breathe of life from God?


Somebody lay it out crystal clear for me

You will NOT find ONE scripture where the text EXPLICITLY says the SOUL or the SPIRIT of the wicked or ungodly WILL BE DESTROYED, perish or cease to exist. NOT ONE.

Now one may state his or her beliefs regarding the meaning of a particular text of scripture, they will say I believe this or that, but what does the word of God say? That's all that matters.

People can give their interpretations on the text all they want to, but that doesn't mean their interpretation is true!

Give me GOD's interpretation! And that can only come by God's Holy Spirit!

[JamesGlen]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

1 Thess. 5


May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Question: What is a spirit, and what is a soul?
What are each “made up” of?


Regarding the non born again unbeliever, are both of each(spirit AND soul) destroyed, perishing from existence at some point?

The sinners spirit destroyed?
The sinners soul destroyed?
How exactly does that happen?



Is human spirit simply the breathe of life from God?


Somebody lay it out crystal clear for me

Anyone have any input on this? I am somewhat unlearned on this.
What exactly is our spirit. and what happens to our spirit when we die?
And what exactly is our soul, what is it made up of, and how is it differentiated from our physical immortal aging body, like when we die?

Thoughts? I need some schooling here

[JamesGlen]

Tyrone, as was mentioned, to think that our Lord would “threaten/warn” but not have any intention on backing his warning, seems pretty lacking... kind of like Him saying I would prefer that you are cold or hot, but the lukewarm I will spew out of my mouth… And yet not really mean he would do it...do you believe that?
Plz respond.

[Amanah]

The Immortal Soul Doctrine was handed down to us from Christian Platonists such as Augustine.

Immortality of the soul: a platonic belief
Concerning the origins of the idea of the immortality of the soul, Vine already gave us some hinds above: this belief comes from Greek philosophy, expounded especially by two of the chief Greek Philosophers: Plato and Socrates. Plato, though not the first to assert the doctrine of the immortal soul, he was definitely the most eloquent one. As Werner Jaeger of Harvard University says:
“The immortality of man was one of the foundational creeds of the philosophical religion of Platonism that was in part adopted by the Christian church” (Werner Jaeger, “The Greek ideas of immortality”, Harvard Theological Review, Volume LII, July 1959, Number 3, emphasis added ).

https://www.jba.gr/The-origins-of-th...f-the-soul.htm

The gift of God is eternal life, immortality.

Those who are not born again of the water and Spirit will not receive that gift.

Galatians 6:8
The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

[Amanah]

breath = spirit

The difference between humans and animals is the resurrection of the body.

Ecclesiastes 3:19Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; . . . .

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

And how do we know that your teaching on eternal judgment is the truth?

The scriptures can be misinterpreted and misunderstood, as we well know.

The way God confirmed His ministers was with signs and wonders following.

John 3:1-2

"There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

Acts 2:22

“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know—"

Mark 16:19-20

"So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen."

So when God confirms your teaching on eternal judgment or anything else you teach, through the accompanying signs, then I will most certainly believe your teachings.

1 cor 1:..22....For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
..23....But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
..24....But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God

[TulsaDavid]

Mind if I chime in? With a little scriptural/principle logic?
If the wicked are annihilated, would that mock God at the moment of their escape from punishment?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by TulsaDavid

Mind if I chime in? With a little scriptural/principle logic?
If the wicked are annihilated, would that mock God at the moment of their escape from punishment?

It would not mock God. He is the judge. It is he who set the principal this principal:

The soul that sins will die. Ezekiel 18:4

The wages of sin is death. Rom. 6:23

So they dont "escape" punishment. The punishment ordained is death.

Romans 1:28-32

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

As noted it is GOD who sets the terms of punishment. When the wicked are dead the punishment is fulfilled.

It is written they are WORTHY OF.....DEATH....not immortality in the torments of Hell.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TulsaDavid

Mind if I chime in? With a little scriptural/principle logic?
If the wicked are annihilated, would that mock God at the moment of their escape from punishment?

How would that mock God? Seeing He got the last laugh.