Does Everyone Live Forever?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

If something is destroyed physically it will cease to exist.

God destroyed cities, like Sodom and Gomorrah, and nations of people's etc....

But show me one scripture where the text explicitly says, that "I the Lord WILL utterly destroy the souls of the wicked"

Destroy body and soul in the grave Matthew 10:28.

I don’t understand how utterly helps the verse. Destroy means utterly removing something. If it is destroyed it ceases to exist. Agreed?

[TyronePalmer]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Destroy body and soul in the grave Matthew 10:28.

I don’t understand how utterly helps the verse. Destroy means utterly removing something. If it is destroyed it ceases to exist. Agreed?

Your mind is telling you that the scripture says God WILL destroy the body and soul in Hell. But that's NOT what the scripture actually says.

Again, "Fear Him who is able to destroy body and soul in Hell", does not mean the same thing as "Fear Him who WILL destroy body and soul in Hell". Two completely different meanings.

Enough said. Blessings!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

Your mind is telling you that the scripture says God WILL destroy the body and soul in Hell. But that's NOT what the scripture actually says.

Again, "Fear Him who is able to destroy body and soul in Hell", does not mean the same thing as "Fear Him who WILL destroy body and soul in Hell". Two completely different meanings.

Enough said. Blessings!

I quoted the exact same scripture, what exactly did I miss. The destruction of soul and body. Means to rot away, to decompose, to be no more. The later point of the verse is that God is able to do this, if people reject His message. Simple.

Am I missing something else?

[Costeon]

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

Your mind is telling you that the scripture says God WILL destroy the body and soul in Hell. But that's NOT what the scripture actually says.

Again, "Fear Him who is able to destroy body and soul in Hell", does not mean the same thing as "Fear Him who WILL destroy body and soul in Hell". Two completely different meanings.

Enough said. Blessings!

Again, the Lord doesn't make idle threats.

"Fear him who is able to destroy both body and soul in hell--oh, but he won't really do that."

[JamesGlen]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

1 Thess. 5


May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Question: What is a spirit, and what is a soul?
What are each “made up” of?


Regarding the non born again unbeliever, are both of each(spirit AND soul) destroyed, perishing from existence at some point?

The sinners spirit destroyed?
The sinners soul destroyed?
How exactly does that happen?



Is human spirit simply the breathe of life from God?


Somebody lay it out crystal clear for me

Anyone have any input on this? I am somewhat unlearned on this.
What exactly is our spirit. and what happens to our spirit when we die?
And what exactly is our soul, what is it made up of, and how is it differentiated from our physical immortal aging body, like when we die?

Thoughts? I need some schooling here

[JamesGlen]

Tyrone, as was mentioned, to think that our Lord would “threaten/warn” but not have any intention on backing his warning, seems pretty lacking... kind of like Him saying I would prefer that you are cold or hot, but the lukewarm I will spew out of my mouth… And yet not really mean he would do it...do you believe that?
Plz respond.

[Amanah]

The Immortal Soul Doctrine was handed down to us from Christian Platonists such as Augustine.

Immortality of the soul: a platonic belief
Concerning the origins of the idea of the immortality of the soul, Vine already gave us some hinds above: this belief comes from Greek philosophy, expounded especially by two of the chief Greek Philosophers: Plato and Socrates. Plato, though not the first to assert the doctrine of the immortal soul, he was definitely the most eloquent one. As Werner Jaeger of Harvard University says:
“The immortality of man was one of the foundational creeds of the philosophical religion of Platonism that was in part adopted by the Christian church” (Werner Jaeger, “The Greek ideas of immortality”, Harvard Theological Review, Volume LII, July 1959, Number 3, emphasis added ).

https://www.jba.gr/The-origins-of-th...f-the-soul.htm

The gift of God is eternal life, immortality.

Those who are not born again of the water and Spirit will not receive that gift.

Galatians 6:8
The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; but the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

[Amanah]

breath = spirit

The difference between humans and animals is the resurrection of the body.

Ecclesiastes 3:19Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; . . . .

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer

And how do we know that your teaching on eternal judgment is the truth?

The scriptures can be misinterpreted and misunderstood, as we well know.

The way God confirmed His ministers was with signs and wonders following.

John 3:1-2

"There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

Acts 2:22

“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know—"

Mark 16:19-20

"So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen."

So when God confirms your teaching on eternal judgment or anything else you teach, through the accompanying signs, then I will most certainly believe your teachings.

1 cor 1:..22....For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
..23....But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
..24....But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God

[TulsaDavid]

Mind if I chime in? With a little scriptural/principle logic?
If the wicked are annihilated, would that mock God at the moment of their escape from punishment?