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Old 09-25-2007, 10:23 AM
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Women trying to be like Men... that's the problem with this stuff...

Women trying to Preach like men...
YEA, preach like men, hunt like men (have you read that thread?), dress like men......but you let a man help out around the house or comb his daughter's hair (remember that thread) or go shopping and you got a homo. Please, what is with the double standard?
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:49 AM
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How's this, I'll do it for you... please show me where this is against scripture:

1. Don't yell and scream, be calm when in a disagreement...

2. Don't spend your life fretting and desperately fawning for your ex, get over him and move on with your life, he obviously did...

3. don't be a pushover, stand up for yourself, don't let yourself get walked all over constantly...

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I could sift through some old Hitler speeches and find isolated statements I agreed with too.

But that doesn't make him or his message righteous.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:54 AM
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I could sift through some old Hitler speeches and find isolated statements I agreed with too.

But that doesn't make him or his message righteous.
but those aren't isolated statements, it was EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS SAYING!!

Did she use modern illustrations? Yes. But you are saying it was a worldly MESSAGE and the message of what she was saying was exactly what I just posted...

So, again I ask you, what exactly about the message she was getting across is wordly?
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:01 AM
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but those aren't isolated statements, it was EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS SAYING!!

Did she use modern illustrations? Yes. But you are saying it was a worldly MESSAGE and the message of what she was saying was exactly what I just posted...

So, again I ask you, what exactly about the message she was getting across is wordly?
OK, against my better judgement, briefly:

Her message taught a belligerent, bellicose, in-your-face attitude that was focused on the preservation of self and personal power.

This is 180 degrees opposite the message of the Scripture with concepts like meekness, submission, self-denial, etc.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:04 AM
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OK, against my better judgement, briefly:

Her message taught a belligerent, bellicose, in-your-face attitude that was focused on the preservation of self and personal power.

This is 180 degrees opposite the message of the Scripture with concepts like meekness, submission, self-denial, etc.
See, that makes sense...

I don't completely agree with you, but I think there was probably more "in-your-face" to it than is good...

But how else do you get those messages she was trying to get across to people??

I mean, aren't there situations where being meek and denying self is bad? Isn't there a point where those good things become too much of a good thing?
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:08 AM
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eh...

if this were a guy at a men's conference no one would bat an eye...
Yup...and those men would not be buying soy candles HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:11 AM
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See, that makes sense...

I don't completely agree with you, but I think there was probably more "in-your-face" to it than is good...

But how else do you get those messages she was trying to get across to people??

I mean, aren't there situations where being meek and denying self is bad? Isn't there a point where those good things become too much of a good thing?
You tell them verbatim what they need to hear? How do we know they even "got it"? I see a lot of excitement at some woman strutting up and down the aisles and making facial gestures...I've seen the evangelist go into a dance and everyone goes nuts.....because he was dancing. OK is that a universal message or something? I've seen it happen many times. Getting excited is not getting the message
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:12 AM
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You tell them verbatim what they need to hear? How do we know they even "got it"? I see a lot of excitement at some woman strutting up and down the aisles and making facial gestures...I've seen the evangelist go into a dance and everyone goes nuts.....because he was dancing. OK is that a universal message or something? I've seen it happen many times. Getting excited is not getting the message
that is the other question... are people actually getting what she is trying to get across to them...

I don't have the answer to that (I don't think anyone here does)... So we really can't answer that question...
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:20 AM
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Are you serious? Her attitude was right? She demonstrated the thoughts of Christ to you? Using the Sopranos (mafia family) as a model for behavior is okay with you?
Brother you're sounding sane now....did you take a trip a little right of left? You'd make a great moderate whooooohooooooooooooo

J/K, but I do agree with you here
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that is the other question... are people actually getting what she is trying to get across to them...

I don't have the answer to that (I don't think anyone here does)... So we really can't answer that question...
What IS she trying to get across to them? What came across to you? I got "attitude" out of it, the opposite of a meek and gentle spirit.
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