TD Jakes on the Godhead

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


Wonder why this scripture comes to mind while reading this article.

[berkeley]

I asked a 15 yr old Presbyterian boy "when you think of God, what comes to mind?" His answer "Jesus." I said "oh really?" He said, "yeah, I believe they are the same.."

I think a lot of people in trinitarian churches feel the same way. It's the learned trinitarians that attend seminary who are vehemently anti-oneness. JMO and observations.

[rgcraig]

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Originally Posted by CC1

Just goes to show you that you can find idiots in any job, religion, etc. That is about the craziest thing I have ever heard but I don't doubt it.

I personally know a backlid 40ish woman who was raised in one of the most pre-eminent UPC churches in America who made the statement to her daughter that the bible was WRITITEN BY KING JAMES and not God's word.

You just don't know whether to laugh or cry. I know the church she is out of and evidently her ears must have been plugged up because she sat under some great teaching and preaching.

I would called them deceived or unlearned. Name calling is just ungodly! No need for it.

Doesn't win souls, and causes ill feelings.

Just my thoughts..no disrespect intended.

God Bless
Sis B

I was raised in a holiness baptist church ...and attended there for 29 years.

I was always taught that Jesus was God manifested in the flesh...John 1:1-14

Our Pastor at the time preached smoking, drinking and much more was a sin. He also had received tattoos while in the military and was convicted over them and had them sand papered off.

He was a very much believed in holiness inward and outward. He is the Pastor that married us. I shall never forget the meeting with him before we were married.

In 1994 our pastor died and the church voted on a new pastor.

The new pastor decided to teach the baptist "doctrine" to which I could find no evidence in the scriptures for several of his teachings...and questioned him on many of them...like once saved always saved...three persons...etc...

He did believe Jesus was God though. We had several conversations.

I was always taught that Jesus was God manifested in the flesh...John 1 1-14
Praise the Lord.

It wasn't long after this teaching we left my church home and God led us into this precious truth.

We were convicted and repented & were baptized in Jesus name. A few months later we received the power of the Holy Ghost just like Acts chapter 2states.

We have been allowed to go back and preach at that church and God saved and filled my Mom with the Holy Ghost before she passed away.

Praise the Lord, that preacher didn't last long down there.

14 years later I am still praying for my little baptist church.

I can remember when I was 6 or so, the first woman to cut her hair and wear red lipstick in the church. She was also the first to wear slacks in the church.
She didn't live long after that. No disrespect intended.

It was many years after that, when women started wearing slacks, make-up and lot's of jewelry and cutting their hair.

I believe it was because it simply was not being taught and preached about.

The church is now 135 years old. It is no longer a holiness church. They do still beleive in prayer, the laying on of hands, and that Jesus is God. Please pray for Caddo Prairie Baptist Church. They also believe in the Holy Ghost, they say they just haven't recived it yet. (Quoted from my Great Uncle Jim who has been in the ministry for 54 years.) He is now in his mid 80's.

God has been so good to me and my family and I give him all the glory and all the praise.

I pray in Jesus name I never take this precious truth for granted. I pray the Lord would draw with his spirit and save my family and reveal his complete truth to them. In Jesus name amen.

God Bless you all
Sister Bridges

probably should have posted this in the praise and prayer reports..sorry.

[sola gratia]

Sis Bridges

By chance should you revisit this forum, and this thread... how come every post you offer says something about dress standards? You seem almost obsessed with them.....

[Jack Shephard]

I agree that Jakes is oneness. Though it should not matter that much I guess. I think that because of his celebrity status of sorts that each side wants to claim him. Some want to shun him as well. I love the fact that there is such a popular Mand of God that is in the oneness ranks. The fact is that he preaches for both sides. I saw him preach in person once at a Trinitarian charasmatic church. He was good. Not the traditional Jakes, but yet was good. He brought out some great points and you could tell at the altar service was trying to lead people into receiving the HG.

I feel that it is because of people like Jakes, Noel Jones, even Steve Munsey among others that have helped to bridge the gap between the two sides. Even though we are not far apart to some we are light years away. These men have helped to bring the sides together, not in compromise, but in fellowship. Fellowship is the most important thing here. I know that Jakes may seem on the fence or on the other side to some people, but it is all about fellowship.

Fellowship is what the UPCI was all about in the first place. In the organization Jakes started, the Pater organization,or whatever, it is made up of both sides. They have found a way to be led and fellowship with out drawing lines in the sand and saying this is how it is. Cross this line and we are done or cross this line and that is the only way we can fellowship. Fellowship is coming together despite our differences. That is what AFF is about, right? I think that it is a great thing what Jakes and others are doing. I would say the samething if a true Trinitarian were doing the samething. JMHO

Originally Posted by sola gratia

Sis Bridges

By chance should you revisit this forum, and this thread... how come every post you offer says something about dress standards? You seem almost obsessed with them.....

Thanks for checking out my post...hope you went and checked out our lil family gospel band too...on the music forum...

obsessed...nah...just know what I believe and why I believe it and sharing my thoughts as I am new to this forum.

Sorry if it offended you, that was not my intention..

God Bless
Sis B



BTW post 72 on Spiritual Warfare...had nothing to do with standards, nor did post 29 on Mature Audiences, nor post 3 on Spirits What are they......

I guess you didn't read all of my posts....

just trying to join in the threads...& share....

Have a good evening!

[sola gratia]

Originally Posted by BTGAP MOM

Thanks for checking out my post...hope you went and checked out our lil family gospel band too...on the music forum...

obsessed...nah...just know what I believe and why I believe it and sharing my thoughts as I am new to this forum.

Sorry if it offended you, that was not my intention..

God Bless
Sis B



BTW post 72 on Spiritual Warfare...had nothing to do with standards, nor did post 29 on Mature Audiences, nor post 3 on Spirits What are they......

I guess you didn't read all of my posts....

just trying to join in the threads...& share....

Have a good evening!

no offense... hopefully I did not offend you as well... just seemed like a constant theme, or thought anyway... please share at will.....

[Droug]

Fellowship is what the UPCI was all about in the first place.


This is my first post to this forum. I have enjoyed reading all the post for quite sometime now. It has been both a blessing and educational.

This one thread has really caught my attention. The one thing I do believe with out doubt is, HOW CAN YOU WIN A SOUL TO THE LORD IF YOU ARE NOT THEIR FRIEND? How do you make friends if you do not FELLOWSHIP?

Beating an ol bush to death, Jesus dined with sinners, He spent time with them. For what purpose? I would say He wanted to show them He loved them and wanted to be their Friend.

Now about FELLOWSHIP. I was raised UPCI from birth, and still am, my parents were not always pentecostal. I thank God for my heritage but I must say that we fall very short on FELLOWSHIP within our ranks.

If you don't look like me, don't talk like me, etc.... I can't associate with you, I might be defiled or something. This has got to stop! I know that in the times we live time is very precious but what is it all about anyway! My church has people that do not look the part, if you know what I mean, but they are loved just the same. There are churches in our ranks that call us charasmatic, but they have never FELLOWSHIPPED us! These people in our church are just as much a part of us as anyone else. But because they know the stance of our leadership, and they truly love everyone regardless of how they look, they are not involved in leadership positions. This what other churches do not see and understand.

Now how in the world are we going to win souls if we use this criteria in our midst. Sinners do not come off of the street looking all pentecostal and everything!! Folks if we do not open our eyes we are gonna have a lot of blood on our hands come judgement day!

I am sorry for rambling and I don't know if I really said it the way I really feel. I get so frustrated sometimes with issues and find it hard to put my feelings into words.

Folks we got to LOVE people as they are without judging them. Let God do His work!!!!

In Christ Love.