Re: Osbama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren
You guys have very hypocrital viewpoints. You go on and on about protecting the lives of the unborn, and then balk at the idea of that baby being guaranteed healthcare by the government. You criticize socialism when it doesn't take a whole of Bible reading to see that God instituted socialistic requirements of the people of Israel. It's like you want to agree with God's principles, but you also want to pick and choose which of those principles are convenient for you. It doesn't cost you anything to be pro-life, so you back that principle, but supporting welfare and other programs that will cost you money are a different story. I'm getting so tired of this merry go 'round with y'all it isn't funny. Don't give some lame excuse that you are supporting righteousness, because you only support the kind of righteousness that doesn't cost you anything.
Re: Osbama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren
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Originally Posted by Rico
You guys have very hypocrital viewpoints. You go on and on about protecting the lives of the unborn, and then balk at the idea of that baby being guaranteed healthcare by the government. You criticize socialism when it doesn't take a whole of Bible reading to see that God instituted socialistic requirements of the people of Israel. It's like you want to agree with God's principles, but you also want to pick and choose which of those principles are convenient for you. It doesn't cost you anything to be pro-life, so you back that principle, but supporting welfare and other programs that will cost you money are a different story. I'm getting so tired of this merry go 'round with y'all it isn't funny. Don't give some lame excuse that you are supporting righteousness, because you only support the kind of righteousness that doesn't cost you anything.
what a stinking pile of elephant poo!
I guess i am a hypocrit for opposing bank robbery and also oppose government giving cash to poor people with no strings attached.
good grief rico. how silly do you have to get? dude, try your argument out before posting it! people are reading what your write! LOL.
here is the deal Rico. in the first place we are talking about protecting a human life, in the second place we are talking about government taking control of 1/7th of the American Economy with NO PROOF THAT IT WILL WORK!
There is no conservitive that thinks children should be denied healthcare. but what we do not want is BAD LAW that wont fix the problem and will take $$$$$ from our pocket books.
Nice try but your selling snake oil and there aint nobody around here dumb enough to buy it.
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Re: Osbama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren
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Originally Posted by Rico
You guys have very hypocrital viewpoints. You go on and on about protecting the lives of the unborn, and then balk at the idea of that baby being guaranteed healthcare by the government.
There are so many falsehoods in this one sentence, I have to keep from laughing.
I balk at the government guaranteeing anything. The falicy here is that the government can provide anything efficiently using money taken from people who are the hardest workers. The second lie is that baby's do not get health care. Newsflash, they do, any baby anywhere, regardless if they have money or not.
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You criticize socialism when it doesn't take a whole of Bible reading to see that God instituted socialistic requirements of the people of Israel.
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It's like you want to agree with God's principles, but you also want to pick and choose which of those principles are convenient for you. It doesn't cost you anything to be pro-life, so you back that principle, but supporting welfare and other programs that will cost you money are a different story.
Vomit. You are talking about the two choices and situations YOU chose. This is so transparent, you think you are creating some deep paradox relating to money, but this is a non-sequitor. One does not relate to the other. I am amazed you are not convicted sitting there in your recliner during the day eating government cheese sandwiches, taking the money I earned, the money I took risks for, the money I worked for. Shame on you I am not angry because welfare costs me money, I am angry because you feel you are entitled to it...oh yea, you have a cheeto stuck in your nose...
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I'm getting so tired of this merry go 'round with y'all it isn't funny. Don't give some lame excuse that you are supporting righteousness, because you only support the kind of righteousness that doesn't cost you anything.
Just because you say it doesn't cost us anything doesn't make it so. I have WORK ETHIC and that costs me, it costs me relaxation, and deprives me from knowing what is going on on General Hospital, it costs me because I can't be like you and get 11 hours of sleep a night.
Re: Osbama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
There are so many falsehoods in this one sentence, I have to keep from laughing.
I balk at the government guaranteeing anything. The falicy here is that the government can provide anything efficiently using money taken from people who are the hardest workers. The second lie is that baby's do not get health care. Newsflash, they do, any baby anywhere, regardless if they have money or not.
Explain
Vomit. You are talking about the two choices and situations YOU chose. This is so transparent, you think you are creating some deep paradox relating to money, but this is a non-sequitor. One does not relate to the other. I am amazed you are not convicted sitting there in your recliner during the day eating government cheese sandwiches, taking the money I earned, the money I took risks for, the money I worked for. Shame on you I am not angry because welfare costs me money, I am angry because you feel you are entitled to it...oh yea, you have a cheeto stuck in your nose...
Just because you say it doesn't cost us anything doesn't make it so. I have WORK ETHIC and that costs me, it costs me relaxation, and deprives me from knowing what is going on on General Hospital, it costs me because I can't be like you and get 11 hours of sleep a night.
Yo, Carpo, I sit in my office chair and post in between phone calls I take for my work from home job. Get your facts straight before you start shooting off at the mouth about things you know nothing about.
Re: Osbama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren
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Originally Posted by Ferd
Oh, and GOD DID NOT INSTITUTE SOCIALISTIC ANYTING FOR ISRAEL!
What do you think the tithe was used for, Ferd? Are you that dense? It wasn't to make the church rich. It was for the poor and needy. It was a WELFARE program instituted by GOD HIMSELF! Go argue with Him and tell Him His ideas are elephant dung. There's a whole lot more God ordered for the poor people than just a tithing program too. How about the welfare system for the widows in the church? That's a NT principle. Is that good enough for you? Good grief! You people are something else!
Re: Osbama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren
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Originally Posted by Rico
What do you think the tithe was used for, Ferd? Are you that dense? It wasn't to make the church rich. It was for the poor and needy. It was a WELFARE program instituted by GOD HIMSELF! Go argue with Him and tell Him His ideas are elephant dung. There's a whole lot more God ordered for the poor people than just a tithing program too. How about the welfare system for the widows in the church? That's a NT principle. Is that good enough for you? Good grief! You people are something else!
Rico,
I am in favor of helping the widows, ophans, and the needy. I do this on my own and through my church. I am relying upon my own judgment, and upon the judgment of the spirit-filled leaders of my church, in determining who qualifies as the virtuous poor.
Compare that to the institutionalized bureaucracy for which you have implicitly expressed your support: It is run by people whose chief motivation is to make sure that their numbers warrant more cash next year. They don't care if those they support are making an effort or looking for a sucker. There is no measure or requirement of virtue anywhere in the system, from the top to the bottom. Corruption is rampant, and the constancy of such programs has bred a culture of dependency that has re-enslaved, psychologically, generations of people.
If I tried to not support this system, men with guns would come and chat with me about it. Support is compulsory, coercive if necessary, not from the heart of a cheerful giver.
There is no comparison, for me, between OT and NT systems of aiding the unfortunate and state-run social welfare systems.
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