Autism or possession - Page 6

good samaritan · #51 03-28-2022, 01:50 AM

I will continue to pray for and show kindness to anyone with mental disorders. If the Lord shows me something then I will act upon it in prayer. It is worth it just to consider in prayer.

votivesoul · #52 03-28-2022, 01:59 AM

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What if the autistic had predatory sexual behavior. Would you think that they should be loved or left alone or committed somewhere where they couldn’t hurt anyone. It seems like you may have the idea that people who believe some cases of autism could be demonic want to just torment some poor helpless soul. I have seen the pharmaceutical do far more damage to these children by getting them stoned out of their mind so they will stop acting out. I would never try casting a devil out of someone because I had a hunch they might be possessed. Neither would I start a gossip ring in the church that someone had a devil.

Predatory sexual behaviors are not an indication of autism. Predatory sexual behaviors are an indication of lasciviousness and fornication, which are works of the FLESH.

And yes, even these should be loved. Jesus loved them, did He not? Left alone? In terms of their autism? Yes. In terms of their criminal behavior, no. In terms of their sinful behavior? No.

I appreciate you have your experiences, and like you, so do I, and so does everyone else. The problem here is conflating subjective personal experiences with Scriptural Doctrine and Praxis.

votivesoul · #53 03-28-2022, 02:03 AM

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I will continue to pray for and show kindness to anyone with mental disorders. If the Lord shows me something then I will act upon it in prayer. It is worth it just to consider in prayer.

Is there not enough to prayer about and consider among non-autistics in our churches and the sins and wickedness they bring into the Body (hello, pornography!), that we need not concern ourselves with wondering whether or not we should cast a "spirit of autism" out of someone?

Jito463 · #54 03-28-2022, 07:16 AM

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Have any of you ever considered the possibility that people who exhibit so-called autistic neuro-divergencies are not specimens to be healed but humans to be loved but otherwise left alone, apart from general consideration and kindness whenever interactions occur, and evangelism if the opportunity arises?

If we see someone born with a lame leg or arm, should we consider them someone not to be healed, but only to be loved? Or do we show love by praying for a healing?

good samaritan · #55 03-28-2022, 07:20 AM

We should not just leave people alone to work out things for themselves. I do pray against all sorts of addiction, but I will still pray about people's spiritual and physical needs in the body. You are correct that predatory sexual behavior is not a symptom of autism, but for some reason many autistic deal with hyper sexuality. When I read that there are sinful patterns associated with having autism, it at least makes want to stop and seek God for them. I am sure every case is not the same, but my initial post was not meant to be derogatory against someone’s handicap. If we are apostolic we should beleive that God is a
Healer and Deliverer. So if autism is only a physical problem then He can also heal our physical body, but I am not gonna just leave them alone.

good samaritan · #56 03-28-2022, 07:20 AM

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If we see someone born with a lame leg or arm, should we consider them someone not to be healed, but only to be loved? Or do we show love by praying for a healing?

Nicodemus1968 · #57 03-28-2022, 07:23 AM

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One is led to wonder when the Lord will deliver us from the pseudo-spirit of extra-Biblical, charismania nonsense.

I would advise you to be careful calling something a sham.

Not every "condition" is because of a chemical imbalance, or a nutrient deficiency. Also, not every demonic possessed man/women is going to act like a revenging maniac. Just because the medical world put a name on it, doesn't mean its genuine? Lots of believers say they believe in the spiritual world, yet I believe they say that so they're not criticized. Lots of pentecostals of depression pills, lots of pentecostals kids on ADHD meds.... poor souls, just born with a chemical imbalance?!? The time will come when we're going to be tested if we really believe what we preach or type.

Nicodemus1968 · #58 03-28-2022, 07:27 AM

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Is there not enough to prayer about and consider among non-autistics in our churches and the sins and wickedness they bring into the Body (hello, pornography!), that we need not concern ourselves with wondering whether or not we should cast a "spirit of autism" out of someone?

Brother can you please explain to the rest of us, what causes Autism?

Nicodemus1968 · #59 03-28-2022, 07:35 AM

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If we see someone born with a lame leg or arm, should we consider them someone not to be healed, but only to be loved? Or do we show love by praying for a healing?

A missionary went to the Marshall Islands to preach the word. When he got there he was seeing miraculous miracles, people being lifted from the hospital beds, cancers falling off, the dead raised to life again, demons casted out etc.. Then a certain organization started sending out "care packages" that contained Tylenol, Ibuprofen, and you know what brother? The miracles stopped! The missionary stopped seeing the dead raised to life again, he stopped seeing the demons casted out.

You want to see miracles like they see it in third world countries, start trusting in God like some pentecostals trust in their doctors.

Perhaps America will become a third world country and then you'll have no choice but to either to believe in a healing or meet your maker.

Nicodemus1968 · #60 03-28-2022, 07:53 AM

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Does anyone on here have any experience with autism that you don’t mind sharing on. I am not one who is quick to say someone is possessed, but could it be that many cases of autism is actually possession appreciate your feedback.

Not too many people believe in the spirit realm. The Americanized Believers do not believe a spirit can cause such havoc, that was only in the time of Christ and the Apostles. Autism cannot be explained by a cause, the medical world DOESN'T know what causes Autism, so because they cannot explain it, they'll say it may be caused by incest, it could be caused by older women giving birth, or its a genetic issue. Brother, Im going to say this, 99.99999% of the time when it cannot be explained through the human mind, its spiritual!

How can a child have autism??? David said "In SIN did my mother conceive me." When you have a child with autism or a behavioral disorder look at the parents.

Just had an evangelist from Florida this weekend, and God used him in such a mighty way. We were talking Saturday night about the spirit realm, and he started telling me about going to a church in Florida and a women there was possessed. He said there were preachers there that if I called their names everyone would know them. And this women lifted herself off the floor, and he said these big named preachers ran out of the room, they were sacred. Brother Good Samaritan, the more conservative preachers are, the less likely they believe in the spirit realm. Understanding how the spiritual works isn't learned through the Septuagint, or some dictionary somewhere, its learned by reading the word and asking God to open your eyes to see what others cannot.