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Old 03-24-2008, 02:46 PM
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Personally, JT, had it been me, I wouldn't have asked what anyone thought...but that's just me.

There are those who are going to base their opinion on their own past experience...period.

Sherri, Renda, and others said it best...just do what YOU feel is the better thing to do, and my prayers are with you.
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Mutual submission is also biblical ... in this case ... I see JT denying himself for the sake of keeping the peace.
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I actually prefer my wife with longer hair, without even addressing the whole "cut" versus "uncut" junk. But she likes it short because it is "so much easier to take care of!".
I will not MAKE her wear her hair in particular way -for one, because I feel it is no where NEAR salvational in nature.
I think she would go to a UPC church if I decided to go when we arrive in AZ, but I do not believe for an instant that she would start looking like a stereotypical UPC gal.
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I know people who "wear shorts and go to movies" and are still in the UPC... AND in that area.

It all depends on the Church. The Tulsa groups reach is far far shorter than some would have us to believe.
When I'm in an optimistic mood I'm in complete agreement here with you, RW. I do hope that the UPC continues to "change" to become what it once was. That is, a place where a fervent relationship with Christ is emphasized and there's not too much jawing about other people's underwear and what not.
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I've read all the comments, and JT, I think you are doing something very selfless here... I think you must be a good fellow!

I also would echo Dizzy's thoughts.
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I know exactly what you're saying ... it's not a black and white issue ...

too many layers ...

Divorce has a funny thing of changing your perspective on some of these issues.
Divorce has a funny way of changing a great many things.

You are entirely correct; many, many of the issues we face in life are nowhere near black and white status.
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When I'm in an optimistic mood I'm in complete agreement here with you, RW. I do hope that the UPC continues to "change" to become what it once was. That is, a place where a fervent relationship with Christ is emphasized and there's not too much jawing about other people's underwear and what not.
Oh my.....the voice of reason has returned...woohooo
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Just curious, is this a problem for your wife, the other church members, or the pastor?

We attend a UPC church. I do not follow standards when not at church functions. My husband wears shorts to the gym and when running on the trail by our house. He goes to movies.

We are blessed in that no one from church lives in our town, so we don't run into them. Also our pastor doesn't preach a clothesline message; he teaches relationship and not to judge others.

I am not in ministry and if asked, would decline due to the fact that I know I don't line up with what the church believes. Would you be intending to be in ministry or just in attendance?
My wife has no problems with my standards. She is fine with it. She seemed shocked when I told her I would return with her. She asked if that is what I want and I told her I want a healthy and happy family. Somethings are more important than egos or whatever. I did feel weird at first. I felt God lead me to this other church and that going back to the UPC church was going against him, but the truth is that #1 come family #2 comes ministry so I took the high road and if God curses me cause I want to have a great family life them I guess He will, but I am confident that He is happy with me making this choice for my family.
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Our Western view of a family unit is very different from how extended family was honored and perceived in Biblical times and places.
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Personally, JT, had it been me, I wouldn't have asked what anyone thought...but that's just me.

There are those who are going to base their opinion on their own past experience...period.

Sherri, Renda, and others said it best...just do what YOU feel is the better thing to do, and my prayers are with you.
I agree Barb!
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