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Old 06-21-2010, 12:10 PM
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It is not a matter of what is ethical but a matter of seeing ahead how much they are capable of destroying what you have to say, IMO. I think a person needs to be very careful here....I think ultimately it is a matter of opinion. For me....I don't need the headache. If someone can handle the stress and bad-mouthing and word twisting.....and feels God wants them to do it....I guess that is their choice...

However, the writer has concerns about how this may affect the congregation...that being the case, I would advise against it as the person's conscience may be condemning them....even if God would not.
Yes, there's that, too.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:11 PM
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It is not a matter of what is ethical but a matter of seeing ahead how much they are capable of destroying what you have to say, IMO. I think a person needs to be very careful here....I think ultimately it is a matter of opinion. For me....I don't need the headache. If someone can handle the stress and bad-mouthing and word twisting.....and feels God wants them to do it....I guess that is their choice...

However, the writer has concerns about how this may affect the congregation...that being the case, I would advise against it as the person's conscience may be condemning them....even if God would not.
I agree. I would also want to be respectful of another's beliefs, even if I was in disagreement. If his beliefs contradict, which they do, his local assembly, he simply needs to walk away and let others decide if they want to follow or stay. I wouldn't want to be responsible for interfering in someone's life choices. Leave it up to the individual.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:15 PM
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I agree. I would also want to be respectful of another's beliefs, even if I was in disagreement. If his beliefs contradict, which they do, his local assembly, he simply needs to walk away and let others decide if they want to follow or stay. I wouldn't want to be responsible for interfering in someone's life choices. Leave it up to the individual.
I don't believe it is disrespectful to take the pastor up on an offer. That is the pastor's choice. However, I would question the motives of the pastor in this situation. I can see no good coming of it.....again, I would advise talking to members privately.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:23 PM
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I don't believe it is disrespectful to take the pastor up on an offer. That is the pastor's choice. However, I would question the motives of the pastor in this situation. I can see no good coming of it.....again, I would advise talking to members privately.
Yes, I agree - IF - it is the pastor's choice. I wasn't clear, from his post, if that was the case. But, again, I agree with you - I don't see any good coming from it. Mainly, when we leave an assembly, we already have a few people who know our stance and they usually share that with the others. So, then, what would be the point? Let them work it out for themselves as the poster is going to have to do.

BTW, how have you been, healthwise, ILG?
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:24 PM
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I have had the opportunity over the last week pf being bed ridden, not the happy kind. On lst Tuesday I had vitreous replacement surgery, for the second time, first was on my left eye.

They put this bubble of air in side my eye. It has been fascinating. I could see fine through the part that was norma; vitreous fluid in ,y eye, the air bubble part was blurry.

As the air bubble started to dissipate, I became the human level. when I tilted my head the the line delineating the aiir and fluid gave me an artificial horizon...i could tell if I was standins straingt or at an angle.\\

Then as the bubble bega to dissapate, when I look down through it, it bcame a magnifying glass.

All inside my eye.

This isn't an allegory, it is a true thing I am going thriugh now.

Every thing I have looked at through my right eye has had several views.

Maybe there are some folks to whom you owe explanation. probably there are many who you owe nothing... look at it through all the angles...all I got.

Forgib=ve the mispellings etc still cant see right.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:26 PM
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Yes, I agree - IF - it is the pastor's choice. I wasn't clear, from his post, if that was the case. But, again, I agree with you - I don't see any good coming from it. Mainly, when we leave an assembly, we already have a few people who know our stance and they usually share that with the others. So, then, what would be the point? Let them work it out for themselves as the poster is going to have to do.

BTW, how have you been, healthwise, ILG?
Pretty good! Thanks for asking! I have my moments and still have to take iron on a semi-regular basis but I am MUCH, MUCH, improved from last year.

On a similar note, my husband's cancer check-ups have been coming back clear too!
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I have had the opportunity over the last week pf being bed ridden, not the happy kind. On lst Tuesday I had vitreous replacement surgery, for the second time, first was on my left eye.

They put this bubble of air in side my eye. It has been fascinating. I could see fine through the part that was norma; vitreous fluid in ,y eye, the air bubble part was blurry.

As the air bubble started to dissipate, I became the human level. when I tilted my head the the line delineating the aiir and fluid gave me an artificial horizon...i could tell if I was standins straingt or at an angle.\\

Then as the bubble bega to dissapate, when I look down through it, it bcame a magnifying glass.

All inside my eye.

This isn't an allegory, it is a true thing I am going thriugh now.

Every thing I have looked at through my right eye has had several views.

Maybe there are some folks to whom you owe explanation. probably there are many who you owe nothing... look at it through all the angles...all I got
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Forgib=ve the mispellings etc still cant see right.
Good allegory and good point!!!
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:27 PM
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Pretty good! Thanks for asking! I have my moments and still have to take iron on a semi-regular basis but I am MUCH, MUCH, improved from last year.

On a similar note, my husband's cancer check-ups have been coming back clear too!
Wonderful for you both!!!! Just because I haven't asked before doesn't mean I haven't thought about you or been continually praying!
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Re: Would You Do It?

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I have had the opportunity over the last week pf being bed ridden, not the happy kind. On lst Tuesday I had vitreous replacement surgery, for the second time, first was on my left eye.

They put this bubble of air in side my eye. It has been fascinating. I could see fine through the part that was norma; vitreous fluid in ,y eye, the air bubble part was blurry.

As the air bubble started to dissipate, I became the human level. when I tilted my head the the line delineating the aiir and fluid gave me an artificial horizon...i could tell if I was standins straingt or at an angle.\\

Then as the bubble bega to dissapate, when I look down through it, it bcame a magnifying glass.

All inside my eye.

This isn't an allegory, it is a true thing I am going thriugh now.

Every thing I have looked at through my right eye has had several views.

Maybe there are some folks to whom you owe explanation. probably there are many who you owe nothing... look at it through all the angles...all I got.

Forgib=ve the mispellings etc still cant see right.
Hey John, hope you get to feeling better. Health problems are no fun.
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Wonderful for you both!!!! Just because I haven't asked before doesn't mean I haven't thought about you or been continually praying!
Hey, I appreciate that!
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