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Old 05-19-2007, 01:44 PM
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In Eastern Canada the term Apostolic refers to a group of Pentecostals who are very cultish in there daily lifestyle. The women have uncut, uncurled hair, wearing it usually in a style that I think is called "set" hair. Their clothing is very modest. No jewelry. The men have close cropped hair. They are not allowed to marry outside the Apostolic community they are a part of. The leaders are very controlling to the point of requiring that they cash their paychecks at the church where 15% is deducted upon cashing of their paycheck. I believe 5% is to support their Christian school.
Now Elder is this a fact??????????????

My brother-in-law's mother and other family members go there anf they say they have never done this. I do NOT agree with everything PR believes but some of these tales get far fetched.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:13 PM
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In Eastern Canada the term Apostolic refers to a group of Pentecostals who are very cultish in there daily lifestyle. The women have uncut, uncurled hair, wearing it usually in a style that I think is called "set" hair. Their clothing is very modest. No jewelry. The men have close cropped hair. They are not allowed to marry outside the Apostolic community they are a part of. The leaders are very controlling to the point of requiring that they cash their paychecks at the church where 15% is deducted upon cashing of their paycheck. I believe 5% is to support their Christian school.
I do not believe this is godly in essence since it is similar to what happened in Scotland several decades ago in the catholic church. This was told to me by a missionary friend:
He said that to attend the church, they had a set tithe amount based on the number of members. Each member had to give "X" regardless of ability. This put the poorer members in a quandry since they wished to attend, but could not afford the tithe tax.

This church has no right to make a decree like this. It is not godly nor even morally right.
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:23 AM
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tv1a.. it's a lost cause with these folk!!!
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:25 AM
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tv1a.. it's a lost cause with these folk!!!
Berkeley,

Are you Apostolic?
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:26 AM
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Are you Apostolic?
If I say yes.. someone will find something wrong with me and say that I'm not..

If I say no then I have no business in this discussion..

why do you inquire??
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:38 AM
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Nice way to avoid the labelling.

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If I say yes.. someone will find something wrong with me and say that I'm not..

If I say no then I have no business in this discussion..

why do you inquire??
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If I say yes.. someone will find something wrong with me and say that I'm not..

If I say no then I have no business in this discussion..

why do you inquire??
My point exactly. Some pontificate about being apostolic and others chime in and tell them they aren't because of a definition. Not sure how you can tell someone they aren't something if even you can't define the term. This whole discussion is actually quite circular, IMO.
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My point exactly. Some pontificate about being apostolic and others chime in and tell them they aren't because of a definition. Not sure how you can tell someone they aren't something if even you can't define the term. This whole discussion is actually quite circular, IMO.
point? I didn't tell someone that he is or isn't apostolic.
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Was not the thread about what people think apostolics are versus what self-described apostolics are?

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My point exactly. Some pontificate about being apostolic and others chime in and tell them they aren't because of a definition. Not sure how you can tell someone they aren't something if even you can't define the term. This whole discussion is actually quite circular, IMO.
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My point exactly. Some pontificate about being apostolic and others chime in and tell them they aren't because of a definition. Not sure how you can tell someone they aren't something if even you can't define the term. This whole discussion is actually quite circular, IMO.
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