Obama tying himself in knots with Rick Warren

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

How does jello tie itself into knots? Or, how does slime for that matter? It just oozes into another shape and calls it good.

This bears repeating.

[Aquila]

For the Republicans the "abortion card" is one of the best tactics they have to manipulate religious voters.

Here's a very serious question....

Which nation on earth has the lowest abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies (including statistical analysis based on maternal morbidity)? Is that nation a Pro-Life nation or a Pro-Choice nation?

Let's see what nation has gotten results and examine their social policies and stop this stupid debate. We're either in this to save lives or engage in mindless debate that ends with the same ol' debate every election cycle.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Aquila

For the Republicans the "abortion card" is one of the best tactics they have to manipulate religious voters.

Here's a very serious question....

Which nation on earth has the lowest abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies (including statistical analysis based on maternal morbidity)? Is that nation a Pro-Life nation or a Pro-Choice nation?

Let's see what nation has gotten results and examine their social policies and stop this stupid debate. We're either in this to save lives or engage in mindless debate that ends with the same ol' debate every election cycle.

Very vague and misdirecting support of oSCAMa. Typical. Nothing anyone can say justifies putting this scam artist into the oval office.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Very vague and misdirecting support of oSCAMa. Typical. Nothing anyone can say justifies putting this scam artist into the oval office.

For crying out loud, ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Which nation on earth has the lowest abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies (including statistical analysis based on maternal morbidity)? Is that nation a Pro-Life nation or a Pro-Choice nation?

Let's see what nation has gotten results and examine their social policies and stop this stupid debate. We're either in this to save lives or engage in mindless debate that ends with the same ol' debate every election cycle.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Aquila

For crying out loud, ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Which nation on earth has the lowest abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies (including statistical analysis based on maternal morbidity)? Is that nation a Pro-Life nation or a Pro-Choice nation?

Let's see what nation has gotten results and examine their social policies and stop this stupid debate. We're either in this to save lives or engage in mindless debate that ends with the same ol' debate every election cycle.

Yup...oSCAMa is committed to saving lives...yup, of the born and especially the unborn...yup


Phssssh pleeze.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Yup...oSCAMa is committed to saving lives...yup, of the born and especially the unborn...yup


Phssssh pleeze.

Jekyll, stop butchering this man's name. End your personal attacks. And ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Which nation on earth has the lowest abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies (including statistical analysis based on maternal morbidity)? Is that nation a Pro-Life nation or a Pro-Choice nation?

Let's see what nation has gotten results and examine their social policies and stop this stupid debate. We're either in this to save lives or engage in mindless debate that ends with the same ol' debate every election cycle.

I'm asking you respectfully not to butcher his name, I wouldn't do that to your name, and I certainly wouldn't like hearing someone professing to be a mature Christian butchering names or calling you out of your name. And your attack on Rico is uncalled for. His my friend and a brother in Christ. I don't know you all that well, but you're a brother in Christ also. If his difference in opinion makes you feel the need to personally attack him, there's a bigger issue than Rico's politics. Now...I'm not personally attacking you. I'm asking you to stick to the subject and answer the question....

Which nation on earth has the lowest abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies (including statistical analysis based on maternal morbidity)? Is that nation a Pro-Life nation or a Pro-Choice nation?

[Aquila]

Interesting article....

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/09/1/gpr090102.html

I find the abortion rates interesting....

Just as laws banning abortion do not stop women from having them, it is equally true that permissive laws do not cause them to do so. Abortion is legal, free and widely available in the Netherlands, for example, yet that country is home to one of the world’s lowest abortion rates. By contrast, abortion is completely illegal in countries as diverse as Peru, the Philippines and Uganda, but all have abortion rates that far exceed the rate in the United States (see table).

LEGAL AND RARE
Where abortion is illegal, the rates often surpass that of the United States and can far surpass the rates in many other countries where abortion is legal.
Most recent rates per 1,000 reproductive-age women
Legal Illegal
Belgium 7 Dominican Republic 47
Germany 8 Peru 56
Netherlands 9 Philippines 27
Switzerland 9 Uganda 54
United States 21
Sources: Guttmacher Institute and WHO Regional Office for Europe.

Belgium is a very liberalized and prochoice country...but it has the lowest abortion rate on earth.

[Jekyll]

Nah, don't need this jr. high stuff. Not calling you a liar about your voting record. Just because you have voted a certain way for x number of years earns you what? For the nonsense you have been spouting on this thread, you have been showing your self to be masquerading as a Republican for all these years.

You just wait till oSCAMa makes leagues with all kinds of muslim nations and breaks alliances with Israel. You won't be screaming jr. high then.

You and the rest of the loonies supporting this guy will be wanting George W. Bush foreign policy to save your skin in those times.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Nah, don't need this jr. high stuff. Not calling you a liar about your voting record. Just because you have voted a certain way for x number of years earns you what? For the nonsense you have been spouting on this thread, you have been showing your self to be masquerading as a Republican for all these years.

You just wait till oSCAMa makes leagues with all kinds of muslim nations and breaks alliances with Israel. You won't be screaming jr. high then.

You and the rest of the loonies supporting this guy will be wanting George W. Bush foreign policy to save your skin in those times.

Oh, ok. I voted Republican because I was really a Democrat? Yeah. That would make all the sense in the world, Jekyll. Until you learn to use the man's name correctly, you have no business calling what anyone does on this thread nonsense.

See? You've bought the lie. Obama is a secret Muslim. How pathetic. I would have hoped that you were smarter than that, Jekyll. Guess I thought wrong.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Rico

Oh, ok. I voted Republican because I was really a Democrat? Yeah. That would make all the sense in the world, Jekyll. Until you learn to use the man's name correctly, you have no business calling what anyone does on this thread nonsense.

See? You've bought the lie. Obama is a secret Muslim. How pathetic. I would have hoped that you were smarter than that, Jekyll. Guess I thought wrong.

I bought a lie? Sorry, I'm not a media baby that believes everything it force feeds to America. His muslim sympathies are not a very big secret. I haven't bought into a lie, rather, you refuse to see the true character and agenda this guy has and throw a couple of more scoops of sand on your head whenever this guy's fallacies come up.

Never said you were a democrat.

I know how to pronounce the guy's name, I wish to call him what he is.