Change After Water Baptism?

[Billy Boy]

Many have been baptized in father, son and holy ghost and felt the wonderful cleansing from sin, many also have been baptized in Jesus name and felt nothing. This is because its not so much what the baptiser says as what is the condition of the heart of the baptizee.

[KWSS1976]

Billy Bob that was spot on. I really don't think it matters either...

[*AQuietPlace*]

I didn't feel a change at all after baptism, but I did after I repented and felt like a completely new and reborn person after I spoke in tongues.

I was baptized in Jesus name.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Billy Boy

Many have been baptized in father, son and holy ghost and felt the wonderful cleansing from sin, many also have been baptized in Jesus name and felt nothing. This is because its not so much what the baptiser says as what is the condition of the heart of the baptizee.

and of course many feel the same exact thing by simply repenting to there friend or whoever to get whatever off their chest. What is amazing is you are basing doctrine off of feeling which means nothing but a emotional release. UN-BELIEVABLE! I can only shake my head out how people judge truth and rationalize it down to "did you feel good afterward?" thus the "well since we don't get consensus of feelings across the board of endorphins hitting the blood stream thus it really must not matter and the mode doesn't matter as well but the heart" sheeesh yeah the heart matters like that takes a genius to figure out. It still does matter in the manner in what you believe and by whose authority you do what you do. I don't see people going around casting out demons in the name of BOB.... As they respond Jesus I know, Bob not so much!

[Billy Boy]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

and of course many feel the same exact thing by simply repenting to there friend or whoever to get whatever off their chest. What is amazing is you are basing doctrine off of feeling which means nothing but a emotional release. UN-BELIEVABLE! I can only shake my head out how people judge truth and rationalize it down to "did you feel good afterward?" thus the "well since we don't get consensus of feelings across the board of endorphins hitting the blood stream thus it really must not matter and the mode doesn't matter as well but the heart" sheeesh yeah the heart matters like that takes a genius to figure out. It still does matter in the manner in what you believe and by whose authority you do what you do. I don't see people going around casting out demons in the name of BOB.... As they respond Jesus I know, Bob not so much!

Bob is not the name of the father , son and holy ghost - Jesus is! You cannot separate Jesus from those titles - There is no one else who can claim those three titles! They are who Jesus is! I believe that because I am oneness!

[KWSS1976]

I don't see people casting out demons in the name of Jesus either so your point being....

[Billy Boy]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

I don't see people casting out demons in the name of Jesus either so your point being....

My point is- many oneness people are afraid of the term father , son and holy ghost when that is exactly who Jesus is! You cannot separate that title from him! There is no other father ,son and Holy ghost but Him.

[KWSS1976]

I was refering to luke2447 not you billy

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Billy Boy

Many have been baptized in father, son and holy ghost and felt the wonderful cleansing from sin, many also have been baptized in Jesus name and felt nothing. This is because its not so much what the baptiser says as what is the condition of the heart of the baptizee.

1 Peter 3:21 says that water baptism does not actually cleanse away any filth of the flesh but is the answer/response of a clear conscience. When a person gets saved, all his sin is washed away. He is a new creature. He is dead to sin. The response should be then to follow up that salvation/new birth experience with water baptism. Several times in the Book of Acts there is mention of water baptism following the conversion/salvation/regeneration experience.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Sam

1 Peter 3:21 says that water baptism does not actually cleanse away any filth of the flesh but is the answer/response of a clear conscience. When a person gets saved, all his sin is washed away. He is a new creature. He is dead to sin. The response should be then to follow up that salvation/new birth experience with water baptism. Several times in the Book of Acts there is mention of water baptism following the conversion/salvation/regeneration experience.

Well considering you ar not saved until you are united with the blood of Christ and in his death in baptism you are not saved.... Nice way to jump the gun as usual Sam!