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Old 03-29-2007, 11:53 PM
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Since you seem privy to the stats, do you know off hand how many first time marriages end in divorce?
almost 68% according to Barna
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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I like men. I just wish more of them were more Godly/spiritual.
How can you possibly counsel impartially with this sort of worldview?
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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I am not anti-male...50% of all US marriages end in divorce and over 90% of single parent familes are headed by females, and look in your own church...how many women are utilized in your church as compared to men?

I like men. I just wish more of them were more Godly/spiritual.
Just like I wish more women were more spiritual. What would you say if I said that "most church problems are caused by women?"
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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It is hypocritical Carp. One of the basic tenants of liberal AFF posters is that you can't judge a heart, motives, or attitude by the way someone is dressed. This is usually pointed out when libs refute cons assertions that you CAN assess a person's inward spirituality by the way someone dresses.

Are you now saying that those cons are right? Is a woman who wears jeans or sleeveless shirts a sinner? Are you qualified to make that assessment?
Why is Carp ignoring this post?
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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Drivel. Go sell that crud somewhere else. I see right through it, OH SPIRITUAL ONE!!

One doesn't have to be 'spiritual' to have access to statisitcs but you don't care about facts do you?

Blessings, Rhoni
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:55 PM
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Just like I wish more women were more spiritual. What would you say if I said that "most church problems are caused by women?"
I would say, "Most of the problems on secular jobs I have had were also caused by women."
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It is hypocritical Carp. One of the basic tenants of liberal AFF posters is that you can't judge a heart, motives, or attitude by the way someone is dressed. This is usually pointed out when libs refute cons assertions that you CAN assess a person's inward spirituality by the way someone dresses.

Are you now saying that those cons are right? Is a woman who wears jeans or sleeveless shirts a sinner? Are you qualified to make that assessment?
Well, maybe you are knocking on the door to the barn mistaking it for the house...

What I am questioning is the motive and intent of an individual who is making an attempt to BE separate from the mainstream, so they make an attempt to LOOK separate from the mainstream. This in my mind is shallow separation, because it is based on outward and fleshly ability. I am also questioning the contemporary message of Separation from the world that used to be preached under the heading of holiness standards.

Only the old school preachers even use that terminology anymore because the contemporary belief is that NO, you cannot do anything to be more HOLY in the eyes of the Lord. I can't remember the last time I heard the term Holiness Standards come out of the mouth of a preacher, but I hear separation from the world, constantly. I am just calling for folks to be honest with themselves even if it challenges their cultural foundations.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:56 PM
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God said, "Come out from among them, and be ye separate..."

Who would "them" be if not the world?

Jesus said, "Ye are in the world, but not of the world."
I agree with you. Do we know how Jesus and the disciples were separate from 'them'?
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All clothing sends a message.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:56 PM
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One doesn't have to be 'spiritual' to have access to statisitcs but you don't care about facts do you?

Blessings, Rhoni
Rhoni, ststistics are statistics and facts are facts, but seldom the twain shall meet.

There are three kinds of liars:

1.Liars

2.Blankety-blank liars

3.Statisticians
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