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Old 10-22-2010, 05:15 PM
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Oh please! You used to intimidate policemen. What is this about?
I can still do that...........

Houston motorcycle cops just went the other way.

Dallas cops were easier to intimidate..........
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:16 PM
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I can still do that...........

Houston motorcycle cops just went the other way.

Dallas cops were easier to intimidate..........
Next thing you know, you'll be on FoxNews being tasered!
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:24 PM
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Next thing you know, you'll be on FoxNews being tasered!
Nope, I am a law abiding citizen.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:25 PM
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women with muscles, YUCK!
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Old 10-22-2010, 05:27 PM
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I will never forget that Texas Ranger asking me if I had a gun........duh!!!!
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:25 PM
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Re: Lesbianism

Hello everyone.

This is my 3rd post on this forum, although I've been following the boards for about 5 months.

I felt moved to post a link to a www.lifeministry.org which was started by a couple to help people out of homosexuality/lesbianism as well as other addictions and life dominating sins.

The CEO, now a widow, was lesbian from age 13 to 23 (roughly 1945-55) in the midwestern US. She'd been seduced by a female classmate, then while attending bible college she was seduced by a second female. All the while she was working in the church and made a secret "marriage" vow with the first woman and had a clandestine relationship with the second. All the while this was going on, she was attracted to and dated men.

The two relationships ended because in both cases, the women fell for some other female and broke her heart. When she and her husband were courting, and it began to get serious she told him about her past and he said that his carousing with women was no worse, so they put the past behind them and went on together. However, although she lost her desire for having sex with females, she had a lot of deep unresolved, unrepented of emotions, demonic power that needed to be prayed out/prayed off, co-dependency upon her husband, a mix of low self worth and arrogance and diva-like behaviors.

Below is a copy and paste of info on the ministry from the Don't Ask Don't Tell thread:

Hello everyone.

This is my 2nd post here, although I've been following this board for about 5 months now.

This not-for-profit ministry has had great success in helping Christians attain total freedom from unwanted same sex attraction:

www.lifeministry.org/

I'm including a cut and paste of some info that I sent my pastor this week about them and their leader Joanne Highley:

The leadership at www.lifeministry.org comes out of Assemblies of God and some type of Lutheran sect, so they have an anti-Oneness bias because of their tradition/history and what they were taught in their bible colleges, but I've seen the CEO change her mind/get revelation about other things that she once thought were false doctrine. Right now, they are concerned about their bills and the expansion of their work (at age 78, the CEO, Joanne is going all over the world teaching - churches want her to come teach, start daughter works/offshoot ministries). She's also one of the few female Christian leaders I've met who take a strong stance on doctrine (many women leaders in the church world that I've seen are accomodationist to the extreme). She holds very strong teachings against these doctrines that are being promoted by similar ministries:


all people have a masculine and feminine side- Joanne teaches that men are all masculine, women are all feminine. Men are prophets, priests, seed planters, providers and protectors, women are designed to be receptors and nurturers (She doesn't believe in women pastors)


God is both masculine and feminine- Joanne teaches that God is God, but He has chosen to present himself to mankind as masculine- she teaches that Christ is the husbandman and the church is the bride of Christ. Women are not inferior or of lesser worth in the eyes of God, but males and females are designed to function differently


unwanted same sex attraction ("SSA") is a spirit- Joanne teaches that SSA a complex form of sin that is idolatry and idolatry is addiction- in the case of SSA, it is addiction to a certain type of relationship, dealing with life through the resources and perceptions of an alienated and hurt child


the answer to SSA is mainly based upon choice- if the person gets prayed for and then goes back to their sin, they are reprobate and need to be cast out of the church of Jesus Christ-, this ministry teaches that choice is a key factor in behavior- a person who goes to act out is exercising their will, it can never be said that "the devil made me go act out against my will"- but it is more than just abstinance- the emotions, thoughts, identity and concept of God need to be looked at with a counselor or a trusted friend with the tool of writing in a journal or notebook or recording each of the above 4 to discern where the misunderstandings lay- casting out of demons is part of the process (and praying into the person the corresponding spirits of godliness), but JUST casting out demons cannot do the total work of deliverance


SSA is a disease- the disease concept of addiction is a false doctrine- addiction is not a disease- disease connotates that a person become passive and needs to either be on meds indefinitely or that they need someone or something else to take care of them or rescue them. Right now according to US law, addiction is a disease


Addiction needs to be worked out through a 12 step model approach- addiction ministries based upon AA have no real efficacy, for several reasons- AA groups are not authoritarian in leadership thus there is no submission to authority; also AA teaches submission to a higher power as you understand him- which is unbiblical


The Christian has both an old man and a new man concurrently co-existing within the soul- once you become a Christian, you have a new nature. You are not a homosexual, but rahter someone who is working to overcome the sin that is in the thoughts and emotions because of what have become conditioned internalized automatic responses to pain, alienation and rejection (Romans 7)


It is all right for people who were once SS lovers to live and work together as long as they aren't having relations- two persons (with SSA or heterosexual) who were in an addictive co-dependent relationship need to separate so that deliverance/cleansing can occur - there are similar ministries that teach that such persons can live together platonically and/or take a vow of chastity/celibacy and still do Christian ministry


The answer to SSA is to give the person what they never got in childhood- the answer to deliverance from SSA is not to give people what they never got in childhood IE: if a male wasn't affirmed by his male peers, just giving him lots of affirmation by male peers will not make this man's emotions change; if a woman didn't get love from her father, family counseling to get her father to love her isn't going to change her SSA.


There is one definite set of steps for everyone who has experienced SSA - the answer to deliverance from SSA is intimacy with God, not a set of pre-packaged steps, however just telling someone to pray, fast, read the bible, go to church will never address all of the unanswered questions and the person's ungodly responses to pain


You cannot lose your salvation - (this is Calivinism) Joanne teaches that a person can lose their salvation, but that they can get it back again


(there are maybe 6-7 other main points that I can't recall off the top of my head)

Because she takes a hardline stance on these issues, similar ministries who have more financial backing have an issue with www.lifeministry.org and they have to stand apart from them. Kind of reminds me of how we cannot totally go along with some churches because of doctrinal differences over:


calling pagan customs Christian
baptizing any which way
calling people saved who've never received the Holy Ghost
looking the other way on people who are affiliated with secret organizations (Joanne teaches against this too- her parents were in these groups and she inherited demonic power from it- had to have it cast off/prayed out of her)


More to come on this one... There's an interesting discussion related to this going on on this site: http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=31955 But, I'm not feeling to go posting anything on there just yet (what we post on websites remains forever as a witness- something that people who are twittering away their time need to be mindful of, I think)

So having said all of this, I will try to keep all the leadership on the www.apypu.com website in prayer. IMHO this leadership needs to do better than the past generation in deliverance and addiction ministry. The old school leaders had a lot of hurt and lack of literacy and low self-worth and internal struggles and post traumatic slave disorder and effects of poverty and the pollitical economy of the eras of heroin and crack to the point that too many persons whom God sent to them have had to go to the mammon of Babylon to get help, and in going to Babylon, they have been unduly influenced by their false gods.
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Old 10-23-2010, 03:36 PM
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Re: Lesbianism

I certainly was not blaming a ball game, basketball, etc., concerning the situation I spoke about previously! I would highly suspect a human being, that possibly seduced/ influenced these young girls. Perhaps that someone had, herself been seduced in earlier years.

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Old 10-23-2010, 04:11 PM
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I don't think that playing sports makes a girl act masculine. It may shine a light on tendencies she already has, AND sports may attract more tomboyish girls in the first place.

I remember being very disappointed that my father wouldn't allow me to take saxophone lessons because he said it was a "man's instrument." Those kinds of ideas are just plain silly, IMO.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:23 PM
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I don't think that playing sports makes a girl act masculine. It may shine a light on tendencies she already has, AND sports may attract more tomboyish girls in the first place.

I remember being very disappointed that my father wouldn't allow me to take saxophone lessons because he said it was a "man's instrument." Those kinds of ideas are just plain silly, IMO.
Never was attracted to playing a man's game. And I think, on a side issue, it is a shame that women are forcing their way into men only golf clubs, etc.

AND it would be a cold day in Hades if you ever found me out in public wearing a pair of tennis shoes. That is just creepy. I would feel like an absolute dork.

Okay, your father had a different opinion than you do and did. So, go buy a saxophone and play it.
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Mmmmmmm.... Indie (and breaking into NASCAR) driver, and apparently a pretty good mechanic.

Ya, she is certainly "butch". LOL

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