How easy is it to Lose Salvation?

[Charnock]

There is no such thing as self-righteousness. It's a myth.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Charnock

There is no such thing as self-righteousness. It's a myth.

No... that Mother Theresa woman is who they'd point to as self-righteous. Just because she did Christ's work doesn't mean she is saved. To view that way is self-righteousness.

It could never be the religious who point away from the Cross, and now have the spotlight on our performance (of course, the caveat, our performing "in Christ" and "through the Spirit") for eternal judgment. I guess God sees me after all... not Christ.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Charnock

There is no such thing as self-righteousness. It's a myth.

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

What would you call this?

BT

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

What would you call this?

BT

I call it typical out of context meaning toeven bring it up. Read the context. The righteousness/faithful response and position before God in covenant had become as filthy rags because they turned from God to do there own will. You gain position before God by REPENTANCE which is to DO God's will.


Eze 18:20 The person who sins is the one who will die. A son will not suffer27 for his father's iniquity, and a father will not suffer28 for his son's iniquity; the righteous person will be judged according to his righteousness, and the wicked person according to his wickedness.29
Eze 18:21 "But if the wicked person turns from all the sin he has committed and observes all my statutes and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die.
Eze 18:22 None of the sins he has committed will be held30 against him; because of the righteousness he has done, he will live.
Eze 18:23 Do I actually delight in the death of the wicked, declares the sovereign LORD? Do I not prefer that he turn from his wicked conduct and live?
Eze 18:24 "But if a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and practices wrongdoing according to all the abominable practices the wicked carry out, will he live? All his righteous acts will not be remembered; because of the unfaithful acts he has done and the sin he has committed, he will die.31

To turn away all your righteousness before God is meaningless before him. Your standing/robe of the covenant is filthy. This is seen in Revelations and in the parable of the wedding garment.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

I call it typical out of context meaning toeven bring it up. Read the context. The righteousness/faithful response and position before God in covenant had become as filthy rags because they turned from God to do there own will. You gain position before God by REPENTANCE which is to DO God's will.


Eze 18:20 The person who sins is the one who will die. A son will not suffer27 for his father's iniquity, and a father will not suffer28 for his son's iniquity; the righteous person will be judged according to his righteousness, and the wicked person according to his wickedness.29
Eze 18:21 "But if the wicked person turns from all the sin he has committed and observes all my statutes and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die.
Eze 18:22 None of the sins he has committed will be held30 against him; because of the righteousness he has done, he will live.
Eze 18:23 Do I actually delight in the death of the wicked, declares the sovereign LORD? Do I not prefer that he turn from his wicked conduct and live?
Eze 18:24 "But if a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and practices wrongdoing according to all the abominable practices the wicked carry out, will he live? All his righteous acts will not be remembered; because of the unfaithful acts he has done and the sin he has committed, he will die.31

To turn away all your righteousness before God is meaningless before him. Your standing/robe of the covenant is filthy. This is seen in Revelations and in the parable of the wedding garment.

So the writer did not mean "Our righteousness" he meant something else! You are full of words that don't make sense! You might even be full of your self, reckon?

Been Thinkin

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

So the writer did not mean "Our righteousness" he meant something else! You are full of words that don't make sense! You might even be full of your self, reckon?

Been Thinkin

he is speaking about the state of Israel. God had his remnant but the nation as a whole fell because of overall unrighteousness toward the covenant.

No you don't understand basic context and apply it to anything we do is filthy rags. Doing the will of God is not filthy rags but your standing before God works/robe you are created to do IN covenant can become filthy. Your standing is dirty if in breech of covenant and standing. That which was righteous is now unrighteousness. As the covenant judges.