Starbucks and White Guilt

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Assumptions. Please post the source for the bold. I have read that the employee quit.


Assumption.


Assumption.


Assumption. Also, unless there's an NDA the company couldn't sue the former employee. Free speech and all.


Assumption.


Assumption

I think you're assuming that these are assumptions. Let's allow time to disclose the details.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Of course she is. Everyone knows we can't trust a Confederate Flag waving conservative to care about racism in this day and age. lol

Conservatives only protest gay wedding cakes, women's health clinics, and any effort to expand Medicare/Medicaid to cover uninsured families with health insurance. lol

If you really believe that, then we must be complete monsters in your eyes. Is that the case? Do you believe we're monsters who don't care about real racism (as opposed to these "cry wolf" situations)?

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've been asked if I was going to purchase something while waiting for someone else before. No one called the police on me. In fact, if they insisted I leave, I would have complied. And if it was a misunderstanding and the police were called, I'd definitely leave upon a police officer's request.

And these two refused to comply with both the establishment and with the police. Is it any wonder they were arrested? For crying out loud, you're disproving your own point.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Aquila, did you watch this?

No. I can later if you like.

But one man's opinion is no more valid than another's.

The facts are:

The two gentlemen in question were not being a disruption.

The customers, and even employees, were not comfortable with how the situation was handled.

The men were not doing anything that isn't done on a daily basis in Starbuck's.

No criminal charges were filed against them.

The employee is no longer with the company.

The CEO has voiced that this isn't how Starbuck's wishes to be known as a business. People should feel free to wait for business partners, friends, and associates meeting at Starbuck's.

Apologies were issued by the CEO.

And you're over here complaining because two black guys didn't get what you think they deserved?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think you're assuming that these are assumptions.

No, your post was filled with several literal assumptions. You have zero facts or evidence which back your assumptions.

Please post the source which says the employee was fired. Thank you.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No. I can later if you like.

But one man's opinion is no more valid than another's.

The facts are:

The two gentlemen in question were not being a disruption.

The customers, and even employees, were not comfortable with how the situation was handled.

The men were not doing anything that isn't done on a daily basis in Starbuck's.

No criminal charges were filed against them.

The employee is no longer with the company.

The CEO has voiced that this isn't how Starbuck's wishes to be known as a business. People should feel free to wait for business partners, friends, and associates meeting at Starbuck's.

Apologies were issued by the CEO.

And you're over here complaining because two black guys didn't get what you think they deserved?

I could care less about who got what. I don't patronise Starbucks and I don't empathise with anyone who does.

Oh, and when did I say "I think they deserve..." whatever?

One man's opinion IS more valid than another's, in this case. Specifically, that black man's opinion of the racial element of this situation is way more valid than YOUR virtue-signaling SJW whitey race-baiting opinion. In my humble opinion. And in the opinion of every Black Lives Matter proponent and the SJW crowd you seem to be falling behind and not playing catch-up with. Why? Because you and your white priviledge got no room to be speaking about what is or is not racist.

Oh wait, the BLM crowd and their liberal white supporters don't like when black people voice opinions not handed to them from the mouth of Sauron's "social justice" cadre? Hmmm...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

No, your post was filled with several literal assumptions. You have zero facts or evidence which back your assumptions.

Please post the source which says the employee was fired. Thank you.

Maybe he'll pm it to you...

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Maybe he'll pm it to you...

I won't say he's lying, I promise. I've read several articles, all the one's I've read say the person quit. When this first broke, news on the radio here also said the employee quit.

I'm not saying Aquila's wrong, I just haven't read where the person was fired. I'd like to read the article Aquila read where it stated that.

[Originalist]

Aquila, would you trust these Confederate flag waving conservatives?.....

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

No, your post was filled with several literal assumptions. You have zero facts or evidence which back your assumptions.

Please post the source which says the employee was fired. Thank you.

When all the details come to light, if they do, I'm confident it will show that the employee as given an ultimatum. Quit or be fired. And, from where I come from, that's essentially being fired.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I could care less about who got what. I don't patronise Starbucks and I don't empathise with anyone who does.

Oh, and when did I say "I think they deserve..." whatever?

One man's opinion IS more valid than another's, in this case. Specifically, that black man's opinion of the racial element of this situation is way more valid than YOUR virtue-signaling SJW whitey race-baiting opinion. In my humble opinion. And in the opinion of every Black Lives Matter proponent and the SJW crowd you seem to be falling behind and not playing catch-up with. Why? Because you and your white priviledge got no room to be speaking about what is or is not racist.

Oh wait, the BLM crowd and their liberal white supporters don't like when black people voice opinions not handed to them from the mouth of Sauron's "social justice" cadre? Hmmm...

Why are you so bitter, angry, personal, and hateful? You sound more like Rush Limbaugh than Jesus. I think you need the Holy Ghost. lol

I'm only saying that I think a Starbuck's employee was racially profiling. They saw two black men waiting without purchase and assumed they were just loitering when in fact they were waiting on someone. I don't even believe it is a big problem throughout the entire company. Which is one reason why I don't believe there's a need to boycott Starbucks. It's a management issue only involving one employee in one store.