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Old 04-29-2012, 03:40 PM
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Re: Same God or different God?

It is my understanding that in pre-Islamic times the Arabs worshiped many gods including the sun, moon, and stars. The moon god was known as "al-ilah" or "the god." Mohammed received a revelation that the Meccan moon god was the supreme god and he began to promote that among other Arabs. The name changed to "Allah" and is the god now worshiped by Muslims.

The Islamic name used for God was “Allah”, which was already in use for one of the local Gods (it is now used by Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians as the name of God) A history Of Arab people by Albert Hourani, 1991, page-16, Belknap press of Harvard University, USA
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Thanks for the responses, everyone.

To those who say that Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God, if there is a difference in the two descriptions of God, does that prove they are two different Gods?
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Thanks for the responses, everyone.

To those who say that Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God, if there is a difference in the two descriptions of God, does that prove they are two different Gods?
Timmy, I kinda waffle back and forth between:
No. The Allah presented by the Muslims is not Jesus Christ and is therefor a different god
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Yes. They actually worship the same God but understand Him differently (as do also Jews and heathen).

I know that sounds wishy washy but it is my honest answer.
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Timmy, I kinda waffle back and forth between:
No. The Allah presented by the Muslims is not Jesus Christ and is therefor a different god
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Yes. They actually worship the same God but understand Him differently (as do also Jews and heathen).

I know that sounds wishy washy but it is my honest answer.
Thanks.
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Thanks for the responses, everyone.

To those who say that Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God, if there is a difference in the two descriptions of God, does that prove they are two different Gods?
It's not up to Christians to prove what everyone else believes.

There is only One true God. He came in flesh as Jesus Christ. He is the payment for our sins, and not only for our sins, but also for the sins of the whole world.

If someone can affirm the above, then they worship the YHWH via Jesus. If not, then they serve "another god".
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Timmy, I kinda waffle back and forth between:
No. The Allah presented by the Muslims is not Jesus Christ and is therefor a different god
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Yes. They actually worship the same God but understand Him differently (as do also Jews and heathen).

I know that sounds wishy washy but it is my honest answer.
Yes that sounds very wishy washy.
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It's not up to Christians to prove what everyone else believes.
OK. Not sure how that matters.

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There is only One true God. He came in flesh as Jesus Christ. He is the payment for our sins, and not only for our sins, but also for the sins of the whole world.

If someone can affirm the above, then they worship the YHWH via Jesus. If not, then they serve "another god".
Then Jews serve another god?
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OK. Not sure how that matters.


Then Jews serve another god?
It matters only because I felt you were placing an onus of sorts on Christians - to prove their God is unique. Maybe I was wrong.


Pretty much. Unless they come to accept Jesus and the only remedy for sin, they do not truly serve YHWH. While some may say they give Him a nod in partial acceptance of some sort (and others could make the same claim about worshiping Allah) The facts are clearly defined in Christian scripture and remain...

Anyone who denies the Son doesn't have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
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Anyone who denies the Son doesn't have the Father, either. But anyone who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Amen, that sums it up. If a Jewish person denies Jesus Christ he will be just as much lost as every other person on the face of the earth who denies Christ. It's so simple and clear in scripture.
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