The 1 Step Salvation plan

[ApostolicTexas]

This movement is gaining ground among the Apostolic/Pentecostal circles as the 21st century "New Issue".They basically teach that faith alone saves just like any other denomination.Salavtion comes before water baptism they say as the example for Corneilus is given as their their prime example.They believe in water baptism in Jesus name..but it does not remit sin as sin was remitted at repentance..some even say no need at at all [to be baptized]and it doesnt matter what formula is used..This doctrine is known as the 1 step and it is actually nothing new..These guys are just good o baptist people baptized in Jesus name!

Some lurk here on this board if you have not yet discovered them!

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by ApostolicTexas

This movement is gaining ground among the Apostolic/Pentecostal circles as the 21st century "New Issue".They basically teach that faith alone saves just like any other denomination.Salavtion comes before water baptism they say as the example for Corneilus is given as their their prime example.They believe in water baptism in Jesus name..but it does not remit sin as sin was remitted at repentance..some even say no need at at all [to be baptized]and it doesnt matter what formula is used..This doctrine is known as the 1 step and it is actually nothing new..These guys are just good o baptist people baptized in Jesus name!

Some lurk here on this board if you have not yet discovered them!

Believe means many things.If a person really believes they will do many things.


Acts10:43: To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.So to believe means to Repent and be baptized because Acts 2:38: says,Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,So we must conclude that if believing gives remission of sins and Repenting and being baptized gives remission of sins,then believing don't simply mean to believe Jesus died for your sins and accept him as you savour.

We are also saved by 2 Thes.2:13: But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.We are saved by sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. We are saved by the truth,Not a perverted gospel and lies like alot of people are preaching.

1 John 5:1: Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. We see here that a true believer is born of God.We see that a true believer is one who has repented and been baptized and is sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.

.Rom.10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom.10:13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (when do we call on the name of the Lord? In baptism) Acts22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord

So the bottom line is,Jesus is the word of God and if we believe in Jesus we believe the word of truth.ALL OF IT.


Mark 1:14: Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15: And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by ApostolicTexas

This movement is gaining ground among the Apostolic/Pentecostal circles as the 21st century "New Issue".They basically teach that faith alone saves just like any other denomination.Salavtion comes before water baptism they say as the example for Corneilus is given as their their prime example.They believe in water baptism in Jesus name..but it does not remit sin as sin was remitted at repentance..some even say no need at at all [to be baptized]and it doesnt matter what formula is used..This doctrine is known as the 1 step and it is actually nothing new..These guys are just good o baptist people baptized in Jesus name!

Some lurk here on this board if you have not yet discovered them!

The key to salvation is repentance. True, honest to God repentance. I know folks who have been water baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost (it's a promise that can be received in faith). However, they are unrepentant. They will find themselves lost in the judgment.

But unto those who "repent" God is faithful and just to forgive them. They are essentially "saved" and their sins are "remitted" meaing "forgiven." But...they have only begun a journey that will take them into obedience. This obedience will lead them to water baptism in Jesus name, thereby identifying them with his death and burial and signifying their remission of sins which took place at repentance. If they refuse to be water baptized in Jesus name they are in rebellion to the Scriptures and stand to loose their soul if they don't repent and obey. Also, upon repenting of sin they are called of God to seek the Holy Ghost. If the believer doesn't continue on into obedience (water baptism, Holy Ghost, and Christian holiness), they are going to grieve the Spirit and end up being lost.

I'm not sure why any Apostolic would believe that all a person must do is "have faith" alone. Faith cannot save anyone unless they repent of their sins. And repentance leads to obedience.

[ApostolicTexas]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Believe means many things.If a person really believes they will do many things.


Acts10:43: To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.So to believe means to Repent and be baptized because Acts 2:38: says,Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,So we must conclude that if believing gives remission of sins and Repenting and being baptized gives remission of sins,then believing don't simply mean to believe Jesus died for your sins and accept him as you savour.

We are also saved by 2 Thes.2:13: But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.We are saved by sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. We are saved by the truth,Not a perverted gospel and lies like alot of people are preaching.

1 John 5:1: Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. We see here that a true believer is born of God.We see that a true believer is one who has repented and been baptized and is sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.

.Rom.10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom.10:13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (when do we call on the name of the Lord? In baptism) Acts22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord

So the bottom line is,Jesus is the word of God and if we believe in Jesus we believe the word of truth.ALL OF IT.


Mark 1:14: Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15: And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel

Nothing wrong with Believing..that is the basics..but when it is made into a doctrine of thats all you have to do...then it becomes man made...You totally missed what I was saying,,perhaps your a 1 stepper?

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Believe means many things.If a person really believes they will do many things.


Acts10:43: To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.So to believe means to Repent and be baptized because Acts 2:38: says,Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,So we must conclude that if believing gives remission of sins and Repenting and being baptized gives remission of sins,then believing don't simply mean to believe Jesus died for your sins and accept him as you savour.

We are also saved by 2 Thes.2:13: But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.We are saved by sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. We are saved by the truth,Not a perverted gospel and lies like alot of people are preaching.

1 John 5:1: Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. We see here that a true believer is born of God.We see that a true believer is one who has repented and been baptized and is sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.

.Rom.10:9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom.10:13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (when do we call on the name of the Lord? In baptism) Acts22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord

So the bottom line is,Jesus is the word of God and if we believe in Jesus we believe the word of truth.ALL OF IT.


Mark 1:14: Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15: And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel

You simply can't do anything in Repentance and true submission to the Cross.

It is his Grace that saves you.

My Baptism in JN subsequent to salvation and the infilling of the HG by speaking in Tongues.

Is no less powerful then you believing you were not saved until you completed the steps.

One's faith is solely on God's grace to salvation.

Anothers is on the steps.

My faith rest in him....

[ApostolicTexas]

[QUOTE=Aquila;370551]The key to salvation is repentance. True, honest to God repentance. I know folks who have been water baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost (it's a promise that can be received in faith). However, they are unrepentant. They will find themselves lost in the judgment.

But unto those who "repent" God is faithful and just to forgive them. They are essentially "saved" and their sins are "remitted" meaing "forgiven."

So if they are "saved"why the need for the Holy Ghost?if they are "saved" no need for it...but alas...Without the Spirit we are none of his..and how do we know when we recieve the Spirit?,,hopefully the same way the Apostles knew...the evidence of tongues!

[Michael The Disciple]

Unless a man is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Water is water baptism. Spirit is spirit baptism. If one has not believed and repented his experience will not be real. The steps to be "fully saved".

[ApostolicTexas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Unless a man is born of water and the spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God. Water is water baptism. Spirit is spirit baptism. If one has not believed and repented his experience will not be real. The steps to be "fully saved".

Your 1 Step brthren would disagree with you..Their chief ally and compadre is Corneilus...He was forgiven and filled with the Holy Ghost BEFORE water baptism...I am on your side though

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by ApostolicTexas

Nothing wrong with Believing..that is the basics..but when it is made into a doctrine of thats all you have to do...then it becomes man made...You totally missed what I was saying,,perhaps your a 1 stepper?

No sir,I'm a full stepper.Only obeying all the word saves.I was showing how a true believer will will obey all the word to be saved.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by ApostolicTexas

Your 1 Step brthren would disagree with you..Their chief ally and compadre is Corneilus...He was forgiven and filled with the Holy Ghost BEFORE water baptism...I am on your side though

It don't make any differance what you do first as long as you do it.