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Is it Wrong to be an Independent Church or Minister?
Are ministers and churches who choose to be independent of organizations/denominations rebellious?
Are they ignoring biblical governance and authority?
Should we refuse to fellowship those who are not affiliated with a religious organization outside of their local assembly?
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11-10-2007, 08:33 PM
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Are ministers and churches who choose to be independent of organizations/denominations rebellious?
Are they ignoring biblical governance and authority?
Should we refuse to fellowship those who are not affiliated with a religious organization outside of their local assembly?
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Hello...NO, what are you thinking? The body of Christ is the body of Christ.
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11-10-2007, 08:34 PM
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Hello...NO, what are you thinking? The body of Christ is the body of Christ.
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There seems to be an opinion that an independent spirit is wrong.
I actually had a bible college instructor tell me that he would never use an independent minister, and that he did not trust men that wouldn't submit to an organization.
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11-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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11-10-2007, 08:37 PM
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Yes or they would not have let Him speak in the synagogue or Temple......
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11-10-2007, 08:46 PM
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There seems to be an opinion that an independent spirit is wrong.
I actually had a bible college instructor tell me that he would never use an independent minister, and that he did not trust men that wouldn't submit to an organization.
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Where does it say to submit to an organization? The early church stayed connected with each other but they didn't sign an AF statement nor pay fellowship dues. They supported each other as the church of Christ in a certain locale because ultimately they all formed the body of Christ in the entire world. Wouldn't it be nice if the result of resolution 4 was a reformation of the UPC? Less central government and more autonomousness to the local churches. Instead of district boards, something like a board of elders or presbyters that meet to resolve issues like the council that met in Jerusalem. Wake me up!
Coonskinner would have some good insight to add to this discussion as would my pastor.
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Hello...NO, what are you thinking? The body of Christ is the body of Christ.
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Mizpeh, how do you know if a minister is part of the body of Christ if he is independent?
I mean there is no affirmation statement that proves what his beliefs truly are.
How can we possibly trust independent ministers?
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11-10-2007, 08:43 PM
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Mizpeh, how do you know if a minister is part of the body of Christ if he is independent?
I mean there is no affirmation statement that proves what his beliefs truly are.
How can we possibly trust independent ministers?
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I'm sorry, I cannot provide an answer that is equally TIC, therefore I'll just watch. 
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I'm sorry, I cannot provide an answer that is equally TIC, therefore I'll just watch. |
Well now...thou art a quick study!
I iz jes tinkin' about all of these men leaving the mothership.
How can we possibly trust men that are no longer signing the Affirmation Statement they shoved down our throats fifteen years ago?
How can we possibly know what they truly believe if they will not verify it with a signature?
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