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Scott Hutchinson
05-27-2008, 09:12 PM
Where I live in a sleepy little one horse in South,AL there are older people who will not vote for a republican under any circumstances.
These sort of people are called yellow dog democrats although I don't know why.
Anyways I know a older gentlemen who is a good southern baptist he is a good man and yet he will not vote republican under any circumstances.

Although I disagree with this good man on doctrinal issues he does hold to moral values,yet He would vote for Hillary over Mccain.
My grandfather had loyalty to The Democrats as well.
Do you have a faction of staunch yellow dog democrats where you live?

Pressing-On
05-27-2008, 09:15 PM
My FIL (84 years old) is a staunch Democrat! We are careful not to discuss politics, BUT when we saw him this past weekend I had to ask who he was voting for.

I said, "So, are you going to vote for Obama?"

He said, "Hahahaahahahhaha. You are very funny."

He isn't voting for Hillary either. I can't see him voting Republican. I don't know what he will do.

Cindy
05-27-2008, 09:16 PM
Yep, I think that is a problem a lot of Democrats will have.

Pressing-On
05-27-2008, 09:17 PM
Yep, I think that is a problem a lot of Democrats will have.
I think so!

Wasn't I logging out or something? :toofunny

Cindy
05-27-2008, 09:18 PM
I think so!

Wasn't I logging out or something? :toofunny

Yep, but who can not help but read a thread with that title.........:toofunny

Scott Hutchinson
05-27-2008, 09:21 PM
You know I find this interesting but historically The Democrats by and large were agains't civil rights while Republicans were for civils rights,hence The Eisenhower presidency.

OP_Carl
05-27-2008, 10:38 PM
The ignorant, delusional, unthinking, easily-manipulated, yet stubbornly-patriotic masses - their voices must be heard!

You may thank government schools and the patience of the communists. Their long march through the institutions is nearly complete.

Cindy
05-27-2008, 11:52 PM
The ignorant, delusional, unthinking, easily-manipulated, yet stubbornly-patriotic masses - their voices must be heard!

You may thank government schools and the patience of the communists. Their long march through the institutions is nearly complete.

So OP, are you for 'em or against 'em?

Baron1710
05-28-2008, 05:22 AM
A Yellow Dog Democrat is a staunch loyalist to the Democratic Party. These days, the term is widely recognized as an expression of regard and, as such, it is only used in a manner of praise. Yellow Dog Democrats embody loyalty. This is a trait that should never ever be taken for granted by any Party nor by any individual for that matter. The Democrat Party recognizes this, thus correctly acknowledges the Yellow Dog Democrat as some of their "Best Friends".

The term, Yellow Dog Democrat, blossomed during all of the Hoopla which surrounded the 1928 elections, when Al Smith ran for President against Herbert Hoover. During that campaign, Senator Tom Heflin, of Alabama, declined to back his fellow Democrat, Al Smith the Governor of NY. In fact it was much worse than that, Senator Heflin decided to back Herbert Hoover, who would then go on to become President- a Republican President no less. Heflin's controversial actions were considered heresy, especially in the South. As you can imagine, quite a large number of Alabamans vehemently disagreed with Senator Heflin's decision to cross his "Party Lines". Hence, the popular saying, "I'd vote for a yellow dog if he ran on the Democratic ticket" was born! It was adopted as the proud slogan of the staunch party loyalist.
At the time, this phrase certainly did not reflect well on Senator Heflin.
Adapted from William Safire's Safire's New Political Dictionary.
© 1993 by the Cobbett Corporation.

http://www.yellowdogdemocrat.com/history.htm

pelathais
05-28-2008, 07:28 AM
Where I live in a sleepy little one horse in South,AL there are older people who will not vote for a republican under any circumstances.
These sort of people are called yellow dog democrats although I don't know why.
Anyways I know a older gentlemen who is a good southern baptist he is a good man and yet he will not vote republican under any circumstances.

Although I disagree with this good man on doctrinal issues he does hold to moral values,yet He would vote for Hillary over Mccain.
My grandfather had loyalty to The Democrats as well.
Do you have a faction of staunch yellow dog democrats where you live?
No, but we've got the "Black Guard." Sort of a Goth anarchist group. I don't know how they vote, or even if they vote. They're angry and break things.

DividedThigh
05-28-2008, 07:44 AM
No, but we've got the "Black Guard." Sort of a Goth anarchist group. I don't know how they vote, or even if they vote. They're angry and break things.

these angry folks are to busy breaking things to vote, oh yeah and making there new ear ring appointments, lol,dt:boxing

bkstokes
05-28-2008, 08:01 AM
Where I live in a sleepy little one horse in South,AL there are older people who will not vote for a republican under any circumstances.
These sort of people are called yellow dog democrats although I don't know why.
Anyways I know a older gentlemen who is a good southern baptist he is a good man and yet he will not vote republican under any circumstances.

Although I disagree with this good man on doctrinal issues he does hold to moral values,yet He would vote for Hillary over Mccain.
My grandfather had loyalty to The Democrats as well.
Do you have a faction of staunch yellow dog democrats where you live?

Scott

It is important to note that ever time our country has been in a recession -- a republican has been in office. (Dr. White -- socialogist) Many people who vote democrat may not consciously know this -- but they still think along these lines.

I was listening to NPR the other day. The former Secretary of the Navy -- who was also part of Regan's administration was talking about the election. He brought up an important point. Now a days many republicans look to hit the red button. They want to touch on the issues that gets everybody debating, so we won't pay so much attention to other pressing issues.

Grasshopper
05-28-2008, 08:07 AM
Where I live in a sleepy little one horse in South,AL there are older people who will not vote for a republican under any circumstances.
These sort of people are called yellow dog democrats although I don't know why.
Anyways I know a older gentlemen who is a good southern baptist he is a good man and yet he will not vote republican under any circumstances.

Although I disagree with this good man on doctrinal issues he does hold to moral values,yet He would vote for Hillary over Mccain.
My grandfather had loyalty to The Democrats as well.
Do you have a faction of staunch yellow dog democrats where you live?

Some would say me and my whole family are Yellow Dog Democrats.

Grasshopper
05-28-2008, 08:10 AM
The ignorant, delusional, unthinking, easily-manipulated, yet stubbornly-patriotic masses - their voices must be heard!

You may thank government schools and the patience of the communists. Their long march through the institutions is nearly complete.

Not everyone who disagrees with the Republican facist machine is communist. The entire argument that Democrats are communists is a bold faced lie. Advocates of social democracy, yes...communists no. This is the kind of stuff propagated by the mindless mental midgets of the extreme right wing.

Baron1710
05-28-2008, 08:21 AM
The ignorant, delusional, unthinking, easily-manipulated, yet stubbornly-patriotic masses - their voices must be heard!

You may thank government schools and the patience of the communists. Their long march through the institutions is nearly complete.

I can almost hear your tongue slither between your teeth as you typed this. Not everyone who disagrees with the Republican facist machine is communist. The entire argument that Democrats are communists is a bold faced lie.

You just admitted that the democrats have screwed up the public schools, even though OP_Carl didn't even mention democrats. It’s like the kid in the kitchen with cookie crumbs all around him and the parent walks in and before the parent can say anything the kid says "I didn't have any cookies". You and Obama must be brothers. He likes to deny that he is an appeaser even when he wasn't even mentioned

DividedThigh
05-28-2008, 08:26 AM
saying that all republicans are fascist is as ludicrous as saying that all dems are libs, just aint so, and silly to boot, dt

Light
05-28-2008, 09:33 AM
You just admitted that the democrats have screwed up the public schools, even though OP_Carl didn't even mention democrats. It’s like the kid in the kitchen with cookie crumbs all around him and the parent walks in and before the parent can say anything the kid says "I didn't have any cookies". You and Obama must be brothers. He likes to deny that he is an appeaser even when he wasn't even mentioned

:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah:blah :blah

OP_Carl
05-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Not everyone who disagrees with the Republican facist machine is communist. The entire argument that Democrats are communists is a bold faced lie. Advocates of social democracy, yes...communists no. This is the kind of stuff propagated by the mindless mental midgets of the extreme right wing.

Mindless mental midgets - how melodic! I like that!

Party loyalists of either party fit my prior description. Joe Democrat next door would rather be dead than red, sure, but his votes help implement the socialism in this country that failed in the USSR.

Both parties use the tactics of fear. The leadership keeps the population fearful and confused, and then they will run into their arms so they can save them.

Presidents all the way back to Lincoln have used the opportunity of the "crisis of war" to enact mechanisms to expand the size, presence, power, and authority of the central government. It's in our nature. The founders understood that, and our Constitution was their best crack at implementing a system of checks and balances against man's inherent lust for power.

It's tragic, truly, that the truth about our framers' intent isn't taught in schools. Don't ever mistake that for an oversight.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship."

There is debate about who first said it. Some attribute it to Adam Tyler while others spell his name as Tytler. Still others suggest it might have been de Tocqueville. It matters less who said it then what truth it brings to mind. Consider the elemental truth of America today. Fully 40% of Americans, euphemistically referred to as “the working poor,” pay no federal income taxes. None! Then at the other end of the scale, the “obscenely rich” who get all those tax breaks, where we find that the top 15% of earners pay more than 40% of total federal tax revenue.

Now, this leads inevitably to the sordid conclusion that if one wants to get elected to public office it would be wise, if not just, to appeal to the biggest demographic slice. That would be the ones who pay no taxes rather than the ones who pay a lot. The appeal for the socialist policy of redistribution of wealth is tremendous. Avarice, greed, and sloth are powerful motivators when somebody only needs to pull a lever to collect their 'winnings'. The slight tempering of a policy of total pandering comes from the fact that campaigns cost money and in order to finance them, one must also appeal at least a little bit to the folks that can contribute.

A_PoMo
05-28-2008, 10:14 AM
What do u call a 'yellow dog' republican?

DividedThigh
05-28-2008, 10:16 AM
Mindless mental midgets - how melodic! I like that!

Party loyalists of either party fit my prior description. Joe Democrat next door would rather be dead than red, sure, but his votes help implement the socialism in this country that failed in the USSR.

Both parties use the tactics of fear. The leadership keeps the population fearful and confused, and then they will run into their arms so they can save them.

Presidents all the way back to Lincoln have used the opportunity of the "crisis of war" to enact mechanisms to expand the size, presence, power, and authority of the central government. It's in our nature. The founders understood that, and our Constitution was their best crack at implementing a system of checks and balances against man's inherent lust for power.

It's tragic, truly, that the truth about our framers' intent isn't taught in schools. Don't ever mistake that for an oversight.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship."

There is debate about who first said it. Some attribute it to Adam Tyler while others spell his name as Tytler. Still others suggest it might have been de Tocqueville. It matters less who said it then what truth it brings to mind. Consider the elemental truth of America today. Fully 40% of Americans, euphemistically referred to as “the working poor,” pay no federal income taxes. None! Then at the other end of the scale, the “obscenely rich” who get all those tax breaks, where we find that the top 15% of earners pay more than 40% of total federal tax revenue.

Now, this leads inevitably to the sordid conclusion that if one wants to get elected to public office it would be wise, if not just, to appeal to the biggest demographic slice. That would be the ones who pay no taxes rather than the ones who pay a lot. The appeal for the socialist policy of redistribution of wealth is tremendous. Avarice, greed, and sloth are powerful motivators when somebody only needs to pull a lever to collect their 'winnings'. The slight tempering of a policy of total pandering comes from the fact that campaigns cost money and in order to finance them, one must also appeal at least a little bit to the folks that can contribute.

excellent post, op carl, dt

Blubayou
05-28-2008, 10:17 AM
Good to see you posting APoMo- I have missed you.

A_PoMo
05-28-2008, 10:29 AM
Good to see you posting APoMo- I have missed you.

Awwww....shucks. :friend

bkstokes
05-28-2008, 10:31 AM
What do u call a 'yellow dog' republican?

Someone who is probably rich and his or her family was probably rich as well. Right A_PoMo?

Grasshopper
05-28-2008, 10:38 AM
saying that all republicans are fascist is as ludicrous as saying that all dems are libs, just aint so, and silly to boot, dt

Now you're catchin' on. lol

DividedThigh
05-28-2008, 10:39 AM
what a funny boy, dt

A_PoMo
05-28-2008, 10:40 AM
Someone who is probably rich and his or her family was probably rich as well. Right A_PoMo?

Like the Kennedy's? :toofunny

Cindy
05-28-2008, 10:47 AM
What do u call a 'yellow dog' republican?

:gaga

bkstokes
05-28-2008, 12:16 PM
Like the Kennedy's? :toofunny

:toofunny

DanielR
05-28-2008, 09:10 PM
Scott

It is important to note that ever time our country has been in a recession -- a republican has been in office. (Dr. White -- socialogist)

False Statement! The last recession that we in the U.S. went through was in 2000, while Democrate Bill Clinton was in office. We didn't come out of recession until GWB took office. Although we could go into recession at this point, by definition we are nowhere close to being in a recession today and is unlikely that we will before the next presedent takes office. Recession by definition is 2 quarters (6 months) with negative growth (actual shrinkage), we don't even 1 month of shrinkage yet (as of a couple of weeks ago). We are getting close to flat line because the media has prophisied a recession so much that people are starting to believe it.

ChTatum
05-28-2008, 09:30 PM
What do u call a 'yellow dog' republican?

Conservative Christian?

How do you (not personal) spell a-b-o-r-t-i-o-n? Look at each parties position (plank) on this issue.

Gay marriage?

Are republicans perfect? A resounding "NO", but on social issues, by and large, republicans are more aligned with conservative Christianity. IMO.

OP_Carl
05-29-2008, 04:20 AM
Conservative Christian?

How do you (not personal) spell a-b-o-r-t-i-o-n? Look at each parties position (plank) on this issue.

Gay marriage?

Are republicans perfect? A resounding "NO", but on social issues, by and large, republicans are more aligned with conservative Christianity. IMO.

I would be the last one to carry Grasshopper's water on this topic, but can you name some specific "Republican" accomplishments recently in the arena of "social issues?"

In my state, the "Gay Marriage Amendment" zealots nearly wrecked our chances for true property tax reform, because they wanted to tack that on to the tax reform bill.

chosenbyone
05-29-2008, 06:32 AM
Where I live in a sleepy little one horse in South,AL there are older people who will not vote for a republican under any circumstances.
These sort of people are called yellow dog democrats although I don't know why.
Anyways I know a older gentlemen who is a good southern baptist he is a good man and yet he will not vote republican under any circumstances.

Although I disagree with this good man on doctrinal issues he does hold to moral values,yet He would vote for Hillary over Mccain.
My grandfather had loyalty to The Democrats as well.
Do you have a faction of staunch yellow dog democrats where you live?

It's funny that you started this thread, because I was just thinking about my Granddaddy Keen yesterday who was a "yellow dog" Democrat. He would have rather been shot by a firing squad than to vote for a Republican. I contributed his immense loyalty to the more liberal party to the fact that he lived through the Great Depression and the party's stand on social issues was the utmost importance to him.

My Papa C. was just as loyal to the Republican Party...both were great men of God who's lives were a great example to their children and grandchildren.

nathan_slatter
05-29-2008, 06:56 AM
Yep, I think that is a problem a lot of Democrats will have.

And Republicans - the three running now are no more than a hop, skip, and a jump from one another. I refuse to vote for any of them.

StillStanding
05-29-2008, 07:09 AM
'Blue Dog' Democrats gain clout by not kowtowing to party liberals

WASHINGTON — On a recent Saturday afternoon in small-town northern Mississippi, Rep. John Tanner, D-Tenn., went door-knocking and restaurant-hopping as if his own career were at stake.

He was campaigning for Democrat Travis Childers, who went on to win the GOP stronghold in a special election a few days later.

"Hell, I wouldn't do this for myself," Tanner, who has served in the House for two decades, told Childers of the door-to-door effort.

That's only partly true.

Tanner and "Blue Dog" Democrats — conservative fiscal hawks "choked blue" by their party's liberal flank — are building their own political operation to propel like-minded candidates to victory this fall. They're also quietly raising their own influence within a party personified by liberals like Sens. Edward Kennedy and presidential candidate Barack Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.


It looks like there's a new breed of dog in the Democratic party.....The BLUE dog!

DividedThigh
05-29-2008, 08:22 AM
go blue, dt

A_PoMo
05-29-2008, 09:32 AM
And Republicans - the three running now are no more than a hop, skip, and a jump from one another. I refuse to vote for any of them.

You're just another one of them durned bleeding heart liberals you know that right Nate? Don't you realize that if you're not Republican and if you don't think W is Jesus Jr. that you're not a Christian? :boxing

For those that are concerned about Dem's alleged problems with 'moral' issues. What'st the difference between killing American babies in the womb and killing Muslim babies with bombs and missles? One is abortion and the other is collateral damage? They both seem immoral to me.