View Full Version : Another Reason not to Vot for Barack Hussein Obama
vrblackwell
07-30-2008, 08:21 AM
It is apparent from this quote given in an interview that Obama supports reparations. yet another reason not to vote for this Socialist.
"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."
Here is the full story.
http://starbulletin.com/2008/07/28/news/story05.html
U376977
07-30-2008, 09:34 AM
You have got to be kidding. Every Indian that the whites stole land from is dead. Not one african american alive today was a slave in America. So what if it was great granddad. We have had years of special indian programs and govt. grants and affirmative action. Those programs need to be ended, not expanded.
tstew
07-30-2008, 09:39 AM
It looks to me like he was commenting on the formal apology angle. Particularly since one was just released by the Hill in the last day or so.
From News Article:
If support for reparations becomes a litmus test for some African American voters, Obama may not pass it.
During his 2004 senate race against Obama, Republican Alan Keyes endorsed the idea.
"And for a generation, two generations you exempt them from taxation," Keyes said in August 2004.
Obama's responded, "The legacy of slavery is immeasurable, but the best strategies for moving forward would be vigorously enforcing our anti-discrimination laws in education and job training."
TRFrance
08-02-2008, 03:51 PM
Well, he has clarified his position on this.
He is not for reparations.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080802/D92A5GCG0.html
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama opposes offering reparations to the descendants of slaves, putting him at odds with some black groups and leaders.
The man with a serious chance to become the nation's first black president argues that government should instead combat the legacy of slavery by improving schools, health care and the economy for all.
"I have said in the past - and I'll repeat again - that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed," the Illinois Democrat said recently.
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I'm not an Obama fan, but I agree with him on this, actually.
TRFrance
08-02-2008, 09:22 PM
Obama backs away from McCain's debate challenge
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92AC7PG0&show_article=1
WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic candidate Barack Obama (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=Barack%20Obama&sid=breitbart.com) on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.
In May, when a McCain adviser proposed a series of pre-convention appearances at town hall meetings, Obama said, "I think that's a great idea." In summer stumping on the campaign trail, (http://search.breitbart.com/q?s=campaign%20trail&sid=breitbart.com) McCain has often noted that Obama had not followed through and joined him in any events.
On Saturday, in a letter to the Commission on Presidential Debates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the short period between the last political convention and the first proposed debate made it likely that the commission-sponsored debates would be the only ones...
Another Obama American Flag Incident
The American Flag image was removed from Obama's campaign jet.
This is true . . . check it out on Snopes . . . see pictures, etc at address below:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/airplane.asp
mrjxbx37i
08-02-2008, 10:08 PM
WoW! I love the hate you're spreading.
"Barack Hussein Obama"?????????????????????????????????
Surely you can not think that this is what Christ would say or do!?!?!?!?!!!???
And please tell me that you are not leading your family in ways that they too will grow to speak of such vile!
I would encourage you to do a quick but thorough examination of your heart my brother!
:aaa
vrblackwell
08-03-2008, 08:27 AM
WoW! I love the hate you're spreading.
"Barack Hussein Obama"?????????????????????????????????
Surely you can not think that this is what Christ would say or do!?!?!?!?!!!???
And please tell me that you are not leading your family in ways that they too will grow to speak of such vile!
I would encourage you to do a quick but thorough examination of your heart my brother!
:aaa
lol, hate I am spreading? That is his name. Is there a problem with stating someone name. He is running for the most powerful office in the world, he supports the murder of babies. It is my duty as an American, and as a christian to warn others of the destruction that he would bring to our country, both moral destruction, and economic destruction.
If he does not like his name, he needs to change it. I don't have a problem with people saying my name.
Sister Alvear
08-03-2008, 09:30 AM
I would think our country would have more sense than to put this man in office...and I have nothing against his color...
Jermyn Davidson
08-03-2008, 06:56 PM
lol, hate I am spreading? That is his name. Is there a problem with stating someone name. He is running for the most powerful office in the world, he supports the murder of babies. It is my duty as an American, and as a christian to warn others of the destruction that he would bring to our country, both moral destruction, and economic destruction.
If he does not like his name, he needs to change it. I don't have a problem with people saying my name.
NEWSFLASH!
Abortion did not start and will not end with McCain or Obama.
So what moral destruction are you referring to?
Economic destruction?? We have that now, and it will only get worse in the future-- thanks to our FISCALLY INCOMPETENT REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT and his absolutely corrupt cronies.
tstew
08-03-2008, 07:36 PM
lol, hate I am spreading? That is his name. Is there a problem with stating someone name. He is running for the most powerful office in the world, he supports the murder of babies. It is my duty as an American, and as a christian to warn others of the destruction that he would bring to our country, both moral destruction, and economic destruction.
If he does not like his name, he needs to change it. I don't have a problem with people saying my name.
What is John McCain's middle name and have you ever consistently used it in conversation?
What is John McCain's middle name and have you ever consistently used it in conversation?
No of course not! There is no subliminal ability to instill fear by using McCains middle name. Any fourth grader could easily see the not so subtle fear mongering that is in back of all of that!
A special thanks for the poster who educated us as well to McCains stated support for his fifteen year old to choose to abort her baby if she so desired.
Yes indeed the boards are filled with hysteria at the thought of a Black Man becoming president. Unfortunately the posters of such garbage ( we can say garbage cant we?) either too dishonest to acknowledge their real motives in such vitriol or honestly cant see it! One poster even has a thread implying that Obama may very well be the anti christ as the "Book of Revelation says the anti christ will be a muslim man in his forties....: yeah Revelation 51:50!
More and more I am leaning to not only voting for the man but actively campaigning for him amongst my friends.
It certainly would be refreshing to see a black man as president of our nation and cause me great personal delight at the absolute dither that thought seems to provoke in some obviously terrified people! .
**************P.S********************************* ***
This whole thread reminds me of decades ago when I was a student in an Apostolic Bible College on the West Coast NOT in Oregon, anyway, when we had elections for class president there was a very smug smug young man who felt that not only was he the ONLY real choice to be made, but conveyed the idea that it was somehow OWED him to be chosen our president. And also he had that air of some kind of innate superiority that was totally unmerited!
That really REALLY irritated me as He wasn't even involved in any of the activities of the class, the only reason he felt he should be president was because his father evidently was a wealthy contributor to the church that sponsored the college.
Evidently he had swayed the whole class to feel the same way because when the nominations were called for his was the ONLY name nominated!
All the wannabees in the class were already congratulating him as though the election was a done deal, Siste Myrick was calling "Are there any more nominations? Any More??? I looked over at that smug smirk on his face and thought "You know this just isnt right! There has to be someone in this class who is MUCH more deserving of representing us..." And then it hit me, OF COURSE!!!!! I raised my hand with another Nomination... "Yes Sister Myrick, I nominate Sheila Wayne for President!" Without missing a beat Renfrew, Mr. Smugs hanger on /gofer Blurted out "You cant DO that!!!!!" But Sister Myrick said any MORE nominations and wrote Sister Sheilas name on the black board below Mr Mans.
Finally with no more nominations we held our vote. It was a total wipeout! Mr. Man only received TWO VOTES out of the whole class room every other vote went to Sheila Wayne! But then Sister Myrick announced "Just a minute Class, I have to go to the office and check. She came back about fifteen minutes later and said "I am sorry class but Sheila cant be president, a woman cant hold that position."
I wondered was it REALLY because Sheila was a woman or was it because she was BLACK??? Or was her middle name really HUSSEIN and none of us knew it!
This type of idiocy is evey bit as dissapointing and disgusting as the out come of that sham election. And NONE of these guys has the backbone (For lack of a MUCH better word) to admit the REAL reason in back of their utter Panic at the concept of Sentaor Obamas winning the election! More and more I hope he DOES win. And BY THE WAY... Sheila if you are on this board We ALL voted for you because you REALLY WERE the best "MAN" for the "job'!
OBAMA in 2008! I has decided!
NEWSFLASH!
Abortion did not start and will not end with McCain or Obama.
So what moral destruction are you referring to?
Economic destruction?? We have that now, and it will only get worse in the future-- thanks to our FISCALLY INCOMPETENT REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT and his absolutely corrupt cronies.
AMEN!
vrblackwell
08-04-2008, 08:38 AM
You guys are the pathetic one. Now you are saying that the reason those of us who oppose Obama being president is because of his race. Please!
If Clarence Thomas, JT Watt's, or Michale Steel were in the race against a white democrat I would be voting for them.
It has nothing to do with race, it is about policy. However, when you cannot win on policy, play the race card. Classic socialistic democrats.
You guys are the pathetic one. Now you are saying that the reason those of us who oppose Obama being president is because of his race. Please!
If Clarence Thomas, JT Watt's, or Michale Steel were in the race against a white democrat I would be voting for them.
It has nothing to do with race, it is about policy. However, when you cannot win on policy, play the race card. Classic socialistic democrats.
If you are naive enough to think that Obama's being black doesn't factor in to a lot of the opposition against him, then I don't know what to tell you.
tstew
08-04-2008, 10:32 AM
You guys are the pathetic one. Now you are saying that the reason those of us who oppose Obama being president is because of his race. Please!
If Clarence Thomas, JT Watt's, or Michale Steel were in the race against a white democrat I would be voting for them.
It has nothing to do with race, it is about policy. However, when you cannot win on policy, play the race card. Classic socialistic democrats.
For the record, I have never played the race card in any of these conversations. I do not believe that those on this forum necessarily oppose him because of his race. However, I do believe that the whole "militant Black, Jeremiah Wright" situation has hurt him on the national stage. If he were not Black with these ties to Wright and purported ties to Islam, this election would probably be over before it even began. With the difference in charisma and appeal nationally, it would be Clinton v Dole part deux.
Addidtionally I do feel like it would be hypocritical for the McCain camp to say "when you cannot win on policy, play the race card", because the impression that many are getting is that they are not trying to win on policy. This is the major criticism of the direction his campaign has taken.
If you can't win on policy, play the "Britney Spears" card ..."The One" card...
(insert other ads here)
mrjxbx37i
08-04-2008, 12:07 PM
Isn't THIS just irony in it's most perfected state?????
A group of churcg going people having a conversation about RACE.....
Hmmmmmmmmmmm....
After all.... I've heard it said that THE most segregated hour in America (or 3 if you go to a UPC church) is 10:00 AM SUNDAY MORNINGS!
So ~ stixck with me here for just another second... then we'll ask the ushers to close the doors for a few more minutes...
IF that is true.. (and MY journey says it DEFINITELY IS) then what gives US any right to open our mouths to even MUTTER any knowledge of "race relations"?
SHAME on US!
ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tstew
08-04-2008, 12:12 PM
Isn't THIS just irony in it's most perfected state?????
A group of churcg going people having a conversation about RACE.....
Hmmmmmmmmmmm....
After all.... I've heard it said that THE most segregated hour in America (or 3 if you go to a UPC church) is 10:00 AM SUNDAY MORNINGS!
So ~ stixck with me here for just another second... then we'll ask the ushers to close the doors for a few more minutes...
IF that is true.. (and MY journey says it DEFINITELY IS) then what gives US any right to open our mouths to even MUTTER any knowledge of "race relations"?
SHAME on US!
ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. I can't speak for any other individual, but I personally have never had an issue with race. I do feel like I have a lot to say about race relations and I do feel that honest conversation is a very good thing and should not be discouraged.
I currently attend a UPC church in Texas that was started by a young white pastor in a predominately black neighborhood. It has always been multi-cultural and embracing of all races...and oh yeah....that was 32 years ago, before it became as popular as it is today.
steve p
08-04-2008, 02:26 PM
what is a 'vot'?
tstew
08-04-2008, 04:54 PM
what is a 'vot'?
:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny I didn't even notice.
I'd like to buy a vowel please.
If you are naive enough to think that Obama's being black doesn't factor in to a lot of the opposition against him, then I don't know what to tell you.
Race is a factor
both for Obama
and against Obama
Racists will vote for him
and other racists will vote against him.
A few years ago, the girl across the street from us got married.
She is African American, her husband to be was white.
Her Dad was over here talking to us one time. He was very much against the marriage. He told us that it was not because the guy was white. He said,
"I wouldn't like him if he was black."
I am not planning to vote for Barack Obama.
It is not about race.
It is about policy.
I cannot, in good conscience, vote for a candidate who espouses his liberal policies and who is promoted by the Democratic Party.
from an email I received today:
Just don't understand why people seem to forget this....
George Bush has been in office for almost 8 years. The first six the economy was fine, and then in 2006 the American public voted in a Democratic Congress.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006:
1) Consumer confidence plummeted;
2) Gasoline soared to over $4 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5%=2 0(a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
gloryseeker
08-04-2008, 06:40 PM
from an email I received today:
Just don't understand why people seem to forget this....
George Bush has been in office for almost 8 years. The first six the economy was fine, and then in 2006 the American public voted in a Democratic Congress.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006:
1) Consumer confidence plummeted;
2) Gasoline soared to over $4 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5%=2 0(a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Love your post, but can't totally agree even thought I am a big Bush fan. The trends were heading this way prior to the Democratic Congress. I am sure it hasn't help, but as much as I would like to I don't think it can totally be blamed on the D Congress.
tstew
08-04-2008, 06:46 PM
Love your post, but can't totally agree even thought I am a big Bush fan. The trends were heading this way prior to the Democratic Congress. I am sure it hasn't help, but as much as I would like to I don't think it can totally be blamed on the D Congress.
Either way, it is scary to see how drastically things can change in 2 years. That is very sobering. It used to be that you had to wait an entire generation to see changes like that. What we do in the next few years will be very crucial for the future of our country.
steve p
08-04-2008, 07:02 PM
:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny I didn't even notice.
I'd like to buy a vowel please.
oh dont buy one.......ill give ya one........,here..........E:tease
tstew
08-04-2008, 07:06 PM
oh dont buy one.......ill give ya one........,here..........E:tease
:ursofunny That's very generous of you...now how do I go about getting it to vrblackwell? :ursofunny
WoW! I love the hate you're spreading.
"Barack Hussein Obama"?????????????????????????????????
Surely you can not think that this is what Christ would say or do!?!?!?!?!!!???
And please tell me that you are not leading your family in ways that they too will grow to speak of such vile!
I would encourage you to do a quick but thorough examination of your heart my brother!
:aaa
So Christ would not use Baraks middle name? Huh........
from an email I received today:
Just don't understand why people seem to forget this....
George Bush has been in office for almost 8 years. The first six the economy was fine, and then in 2006 the American public voted in a Democratic Congress.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006:
1) Consumer confidence plummeted;
2) Gasoline soared to over $4 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5%=2 0(a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Yup. Just like Republicans don't get credit for the economy in the 90's when Bill Clinton was President yet it was when they got control of congress in 94 that Clinton had to move to the right and signed the welfare reform bill and otoher measures that helped the economy.
The truth is that even though it is unfair whoever is President when the economy is down gets the blame and with Americans being so shortsighted they are not going to remembe the 6 years of GWB's Presidency when the average unemployment rate has been lower than at almost any time in history and certainly lower than in the Clinton years.
I am going to have to agree, to a certain degree, with my Republican brothers on this economy issue. What we are dealing with now is partly the result of bone headed schemes banks and mortgage companies came up with in the mid to late 90s. The issue with oil is the fault of both parties, though. Where we are now, in terms of oil prices, has been coming for a long time, and neither party showed any leadership on energy policy for the last 25-30 years. We are very much a "don't fix it until it breaks" type of people.
vrblackwell
08-05-2008, 08:49 AM
I am going to have to agree, to a certain degree, with my Republican brothers on this economy issue. What we are dealing with now is partly the result of bone headed schemes banks and mortgage companies came up with in the mid to late 90s. The issue with oil is the fault of both parties, though. Where we are now, in terms of oil prices, has been coming for a long time, and neither party showed any leadership on energy policy for the last 25-30 years. We are very much a "don't fix it until it breaks" type of people.
Rico, this is not correct. Back when the republicans controlled the the house and senate when Clinton was president they pass legislation to open up ANWR for drilling. Clinton vetoed that bill. They did not have enough majority to override the veto.
They have since not had enough majority to pass bills that would open up drilling.
If ANWR would have been opened and drilling started there would be enough oil on the market today to have kept prices down.
The democrats have been in the back pockets of the enviromentalist for years.
Rico, this is not correct. Back when the republicans controlled the the house and senate when Clinton was president they pass legislation to open up ANWR for drilling. Clinton vetoed that bill. They did not have enough majority to override the veto.
They have since not had enough majority to pass bills that would open up drilling.
If ANWR would have been opened and drilling started there would be enough oil on the market today to have kept prices down.
The democrats have been in the back pockets of the enviromentalist for years.
Drilling is not going to solve the problem we are currently in, VB. It's just a temporary fix. We should have been working to develop alternate sources of energy. The only thing drilling for more oil will help with is our dependance on foreign oil, which is a big issue too, but not the real issue we need to deal with. Have you heard about this Perkins fella?
vrblackwell
08-05-2008, 11:27 AM
Drilling is not going to solve the problem we are currently in, VB. It's just a temporary fix. We should have been working to develop alternate sources of energy. The only thing drilling for more oil will help with is our dependance on foreign oil, which is a big issue too, but not the real issue we need to deal with. Have you heard about this Perkins fella?
No, but I have heard of T. Boone Pickins.
There is more oil in the us trhen in the middle east. We just dont drill it. The fact is, China and india, in their growth has created a lot more demand for oil.
if we would have been drilling our own oil there would be plenty of oil on the market which would keep prices down. That is simple economics.
Another fact, until someone creates new sources of ebergy that can take the place of oil that is what we are stuck with. Therefore you use it if you have it.
The reason the prices are were they are is becuase there is not enough supply to meet the demand. The way to fix that is to put more oil on the market. The way to do that is to drill. The reason we have not drilled is because of democrats, so their to blame. That is fact supported by history.
No, but I have heard of T. Boone Pickins.
There is more oil in the us trhen in the middle east. We just dont drill it. The fact is, China and india, in their growth has created a lot more demand for oil.
if we would have been drilling our own oil there would be plenty of oil on the market which would keep prices down. That is simple economics.
Another fact, until someone creates new sources of ebergy that can take the place of oil that is what we are stuck with. Therefore you use it if you have it.
The reason the prices are were they are is becuase there is not enough supply to meet the demand. The way to fix that is to put more oil on the market. The way to do that is to drill. The reason we have not drilled is because of democrats, so their to blame. That is fact supported by history.
The supply issue isn't from the oil side. The supply issue is one of refineries. We haven't built any new refineries in this country in 30 years. That, I believe, is the fault of the environmentalists. One refinery can go down and the price of gasoline shoots right up. It shouldn't be that way. We are running at full capacity and need to add to our ability to refine the oil into gasoline. More drilling certainly wouldn't hurt, but it would only solve part of the problem and still be a temporary fix.
This Pickins fella is proposing that we make a major shift towards wind generated electricity. I believe his website is www.pickinsplan.com I got his name mixed up.
SOUNWORTHY
08-05-2008, 01:00 PM
Rico and some of the members of AFF has succeded in changing my mind about voting Republican and the following is Why I'm Voting Democrat
I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.
I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.
Makes ya wonder how anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn't it?
Rico and some of the members of AFF has succeded in changing my mind about voting Republican and the following is Why I'm Voting Democrat
I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.
I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.
Makes ya wonder how anyone would EVER vote Republican, now doesn't it?
Glad to be of help. :lol
SOUNWORTHY
08-05-2008, 02:36 PM
Glad to be of help. :lol
I feel so much better I think I'll turn Uniterian!!:evilglee
I feel so much better I think I'll turn Uniterian!!:evilglee
Hehehehehehe! PM Crakjak. He can tell you all you need to know. :D
crakjak
08-05-2008, 07:06 PM
Hehehehehehe! PM Crakjak. He can tell you all you need to know. :D
Christian Universalism is not anything near Unitarianism, my dear friend Rico. Unitarians are not Christians.
Christian Universalism is not anything near Unitarianism, my dear friend Rico. Unitarians are not Christians.
Every time I see anything that begins with "Uni" I think of you. :lol
SOUNWORTHY
08-05-2008, 10:04 PM
Every time I see anything that begins with "Uni" I think of you. :lol
Rico, are you confused again ? :aaa:snapout
crakjak
08-07-2008, 09:51 AM
Every time I see anything that begins with "Uni" I think of you. :lol
Great to be thought of, blessing to you. lol
Highlyfavored
08-07-2008, 08:07 PM
For some strange reason, I thought I could come to a Christian board and find less haters. I guess I was wrong.
Aquila
08-07-2008, 08:37 PM
You have got to be kidding. Every Indian that the whites stole land from is dead. Not one african american alive today was a slave in America. So what if it was great granddad. We have had years of special indian programs and govt. grants and affirmative action. Those programs need to be ended, not expanded.
What we did to them has devastated them for generations.
I would like to see some form of reparations. But....realistically what can we do? We could do something like allow American Indians to be completely tax exempt. But how could we police that?
We could make a national holiday honoring the American Indian, and then all sales taxes of things sold as part of this holiday's observance could be dedicated to a national reparations fund.
Don't know...those are just some of my thoughts.
Are there any people left who are pure American Indian?
We could turn over all property in the U.S. to them and if we wanted to continue to live in our current house or maintain our current business, we could buy it from them at fair market value.
Aquila
08-07-2008, 08:44 PM
Are there any people left who are pure American Indian?
We could turn over all property in the U.S. to them and if we wanted to continue to live in our current house or maintain our current business, we could buy it from them at fair market value.
LOL
No.
LOL
Jermyn Davidson
08-07-2008, 11:55 PM
Are there any people left who are pure American Indian?
We could turn over all property in the U.S. to them and if we wanted to continue to live in our current house or maintain our current business, we could buy it from them at fair market value.
To date, the Japanese have been compensated for their afflictions at the hands of the U.S govt.
Now, apparently, the Native Americans.
Who's next to make the push? The slave descendants-- and why shouldn't they make that push? The courts have set a precedent with the Japanese Americans and the Native Americans that if not followed with the African Americans, it would be completely unjustifiable.
The precedent the courts have set is a bad one, IMHO.
But none of this can be rightfully tied to Mr. Obama, as this had nothing to do with him. The Executive on duty right now is Mr. Bush. Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that this Federal Judge was actually appointed by Reagan or Ford? :)
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