More reasons to vote Obama!

[U376977]

AFTER MUCH SOUL-SEARCHING AND
INTROSPECTION, I'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE
MY PARTY AFFILIATION FOR THESE
REASONS.......


I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government
will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine
as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I
trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now
think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it
will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will
melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter
of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be
allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and
give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four liberals need to
rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who
would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists
don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't
want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry
whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

[OnTheFritz]

Hey.... wait a minute. You're being sarcastic, aren't you?

[1Corinth2v4]

I love the fact that I can now marrywhatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

How many Centaurs will you be having?



p.s. vote Obama

[holinesspk]

AFTER MUCH SOUL-SEARCHING AND
INTROSPECTION, I'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE
MY PARTY AFFILIATION FOR THESE
REASONS.......


I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government
will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine
as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I
trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now
think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it
will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will
melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter
of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be
allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and
give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four liberals need to
rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who
would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists
don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't
want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry
whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

:spit

[DividedThigh]

what a weirdo, lol

[Sam]

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY


I know that some of you don't like to read long drawn out missives...
so here's the Executive Summary . . .



J McCain
Congress 26 Years
Military 22 Years
BH Obama
Congress measured in days, not years
Military 0 years
Summary Concluded.

[Highlyfavored]

Funny. Since I am not rich or wealthy, I can't think of one reason to vote for McCain. Not even a bad reason.

[Tim Rutledge]

AFTER MUCH SOUL-SEARCHING AND
INTROSPECTION, I'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE
MY PARTY AFFILIATION FOR THESE
REASONS.......


I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government
will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine
as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I
trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now
think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it
will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will
melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter
of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be
allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and
give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four liberals need to
rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who
would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists
don't have to hide from us over there, when they come over here I don't
want to have any guns in the house to fight them off with.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry
whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

[dansamy]

Funny. Since I am not rich or wealthy, I can't think of one reason to vote for McCain. Not even a bad reason.


So instead of using hard work and determination, you'd rather let the government appropriate someone else's profit and just give it to you since you are too lazy to go make it on your own? Obama is far too liberal and socialist to even dream of getting my vote.

[Rico]

So instead of using hard work and determination, you'd rather let the government appropriate someone else's profit and just give it to you since you are too lazy to go make it on your own? Obama is far too liberal and socialist to even dream of getting my vote.

You know, I am starting to think you political conservatives live to create and spread lies.

[dansamy]

I've read Obama's website and educated myself on the policies and positions he is bringing to the table. He's too liberal for me to be comfortable voting for him. Yes, my opinion is that some of his proposed ideas border too close to outright socialism. My first sentence was indeed an extreme exaggeration, however if we continue to allow more liberal and socialist politicians into office, we may very well end up with that scenario coming to pass.

[U376977]

You know, I am starting to think you political conservatives live to create and spread lies.

Oh Rico come on, you left yourself wide open on this one. Dangerous ground to comment on...considering we just lived thru wild Bill Clinton who without contestation had the most libelous presidency in history. He is such a proficient liar he actually believes his own lies as he tells them. When the dictionary defines PATHOLOGICAL LIAR his picture should be beside it, even his supporters acknowledge it with a grin and, "thats just Bill!"
The WSJ did an expose' on his scandals, they ran it on the front page and had to run for 2 days. More "stuff" than ANY other pres...and he rode into town with the promise to clean up washington. Claiming the right of moral high ground. What a dismal failure in that regard!!!!

[Rico]

Oh Rico come on, you left yourself wide open on this one. Dangerous ground to comment on...considering we just lived thru wild Bill Clinton who without contestation had the most libelous presidency in history. He is such a proficient liar he actually believes his own lies as he tells them. When the dictionary defines PATHOLOGICAL LIAR his picture should be beside it, even his supporters acknowledge it with a grin and, "thats just Bill!"
The WSJ did an expose' on his scandals, they ran it on the front page and had to run for 2 days. More "stuff" than ANY other pres...and he rode into town with the promise to clean up washington. Claiming the right of moral high ground. What a dismal failure in that regard!!!!


Yeah. I can't wait until Bush gets out of office and the floodgates open on his administration.

[gloryseeker]

You know, I am starting to think you political conservatives live to create and spread lies.


I posted in another subject, but it bears repeating...this is an email I got. I think it is well written:


CHANGE
“An open Letter from the Preacher”
by Dr. Hilton Sutton

“My son, (reverently) fear the Lord and the king, and do not associate with those who are given to change (of allegiance, and are revolutionary) for their calamity shall rise suddenly, and who knows the punishment and ruin which both (the Lord and the king) will bring upon (the rebellious).” Proverbs 24:21-22 (amp bible)

Today a strong political call for change is being made throughout our land. However, no clear definition of this change has been established. What we hear is a clarion call for socialism, the opposite of a Republic.

Our Pledge of Allegiance states; “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.”

We are and were created a Republic, not a democracy. We are a Republic that operates as a democracy. Our nation, although young, has the longest running history of government of any nation. Because we are a God-Fearing Republic, we are the most BLESSED nation on this planet. If that were not so, then why are tens of thousands from many countries trying to relocate here; even through illegal means.

Our founding fathers were God fearing men. Because of excessive taxation, without representation and legalistic state supported religion they braved the unknown, fought and established this nation built on Judeo Christian Law and Christianity.

The present call for change is for a return to what our forefather’s turned from, to form, “a more perfect union, to establish justice, insure domestic tranquilly, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the Blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, to ordain and established the constitution for the United States of America.” If you are a God fearing person, VOTE your righteousness.

The coming presidential election is critical. As a voter, you must VOTE! Use good sense and your heart, not political emotions. Be very careful for whom you vote. Socialism requires huge governmental control of ones daily living.

[vrblackwell]

I posted in another subject, but it bears repeating...this is an email I got. I think it is well written:


CHANGE
“An open Letter from the Preacher”
by Dr. Hilton Sutton

“My son, (reverently) fear the Lord and the king, and do not associate with those who are given to change (of allegiance, and are revolutionary) for their calamity shall rise suddenly, and who knows the punishment and ruin which both (the Lord and the king) will bring upon (the rebellious).” Proverbs 24:21-22 (amp bible)

Today a strong political call for change is being made throughout our land. However, no clear definition of this change has been established. What we hear is a clarion call for socialism, the opposite of a Republic.

Our Pledge of Allegiance states; “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.”

We are and were created a Republic, not a democracy. We are a Republic that operates as a democracy. Our nation, although young, has the longest running history of government of any nation. Because we are a God-Fearing Republic, we are the most BLESSED nation on this planet. If that were not so, then why are tens of thousands from many countries trying to relocate here; even through illegal means.

Our founding fathers were God fearing men. Because of excessive taxation, without representation and legalistic state supported religion they braved the unknown, fought and established this nation built on Judeo Christian Law and Christianity.

The present call for change is for a return to what our forefather’s turned from, to form, “a more perfect union, to establish justice, insure domestic tranquilly, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the Blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, to ordain and established the constitution for the United States of America.” If you are a God fearing person, VOTE your righteousness.

The coming presidential election is critical. As a voter, you must VOTE! Use good sense and your heart, not political emotions. Be very careful for whom you vote. Socialism requires huge governmental control of ones daily living.


Very well Said.

[Sam]

some non politically correct campaign slogans/pictures/etc.

[Sam]

some more non politically correct campaign slogans/pictures/etc.

[Jermyn Davidson]

I'm not sure what is worse-- the fact that there are folks out there that really do think Obama is a Muslim or that he supports Al Quaeda or the fact that you have decided to bring that garbage here.

Stick with the truth and you'll never go wrong!

[Esther]

Funny. Since I am not rich or wealthy, I can't think of one reason to vote for McCain. Not even a bad reason.

I'm not rich or wealthy either, nor am I stupid enough to vote for Obama!

[Esther]

I'm not sure what is worse-- the fact that there are folks out there that really do think Obama is a Muslim or that he supports Al Quaeda or the fact that you have decided to bring that garbage here.

Stick with the truth and you'll never go wrong!

You think you know the truth about Obama?

[Jermyn Davidson]

I know that the assertions that he is a muslim or some how connected to al quaeda is not true.

criticize him if we must-- but let's be honorable and truthful.

[Sam]

A Catholic Case Against Barack
by Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted 08/12/2008 ET


In the Pennsylvania primary, Barack Obama rolled up more than 90 percent of the African-American vote. Among Catholics, he lost by 40 points. The cool liberal Harvard Law grad was not a good fit for the socially conservative ethnics of Altoona, Aliquippa and Johnstown.

But if Barack had a problem with Catholics then, he has a far higher hurdle to surmount in the fall, with those millions of Catholics who still take their faith and moral code seriously.

For not only is Barack the most pro-abortion member of the Senate, with his straight A+ report card from the National Abortion Rights Action League and Planned Parenthood. He supports the late-term procedure known as partial-birth abortion, where the baby's skull is stabbed with scissors in the birth canal and the brains are sucked out to end its life swiftly and ease passage of the corpse into the pan.

Partial-birth abortion, said the late Sen. Pat Moynihan, "comes as close to infanticide as anything I have seen in our judiciary."

Yet, when Congress was voting to ban this terrible form of death for a mature fetus, Michelle Obama was signing fundraising letters pledging that, if elected, Barack would be "tireless" in keeping legal this "legitimate medical procedure."

And Barack did not let the militants down. When the Supreme Court upheld the congressional ban on this barbaric procedure, Barack denounced the court for denying "equal rights for women."

As David Freddoso reports in his new best-seller, "The Case Against Barack Obama," the Illinois senator goes further than any U.S. senator has dared go in defending what John Paul II called the "culture of death."

Thrice in the Illinois legislature, Obama helped block a bill that was designed solely to protect the life of infants already born, and outside the womb, who had miraculously survived the attempt to kill them during an abortion. Thrice, Obama voted to let doctors and nurses allow these tiny human beings die of neglect and be tossed out with the medical waste.

How can a man who purports to be a Christian justify this?

If, as its advocates contend, abortion has to remain legal to protect the life and health, mental and physical, of the mother, how is a mother's life or health in the least threatened by a baby no longer inside her -- but lying on a table or in a pan fighting for life and breath?

How is it essential for the life or health of a woman that her baby, who somehow survived the horrible ordeal of abortion, be left to die or put to death? Yet, that is what Obama voted for, thrice, in the Illinois Senate.

When a bill almost identical to the one Barack fought in Illinois, the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, came to the floor of the U.S. Senate in 2001, the vote was 98 to 0 in favor. Barbara Boxer, the most pro-abortion member of the Senate before Barack came, spoke out on its behalf:

"Of course, we believe everyone should deserve the protection of this bill. ... Who could be more vulnerable than a newborn baby? So, of course, we agree with that. ... We join with an 'aye' vote on this. I hope it will, in fact, be unanimous."

Obama says he opposed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act because he feared it might imperil Roe v. Wade. But if Roe v. Wade did allow infanticide or murder, which is what letting a tiny baby die of neglect or killing it outright amounts to, why would he not want that court decision reviewed and amended to outlaw infanticide?

Is the right to an abortion so sacrosanct to Obama that killing by neglect or snuffing out of the life of tiny babies outside the womb must be protected if necessary to preserve that right?
Obama is an abortion absolutist. "I could find no instance in his entire career," writes Freddoso, "in which he voted for any regulation or restriction on the practice of abortion."

In 2007, Barack pledged that, in his first act as president, he will sign the Freedom of Choice Act, which would cancel every federal, state or local regulation or restriction on abortion. The National Organization for Women says it would abolish all restrictions on government funding of abortion.

What we once called God's Country would become the nation on earth most zealously committed to an unrestricted right of abortion from conception to birth.

Before any devout Catholic, Evangelical Christian or Orthodox Jew votes for Obama, he or she might spend 15 minutes in Chapter 10 of Freddoso's "Case Against Barack." For if, as Catholics believe, abortion is the killing of an unborn child, and participation in an abortion entails automatic excommunication, how can a good Catholic support a candidate who will appoint justices to make Roe v. Wade eternal and eliminate all restrictions on a practice Catholics legislators have fought for three decades to curtail?

And which Catholic priests and prelates will it be who give invocations at Obama rallies, even as Mother Church fights to save the lives of unborn children whom Obama believes have no right to life and no rights at all?

[Jermyn Davidson]

This is definitely a LEGITIMATE criticism!

[Jermyn Davidson]

McCain, however is not opposed to having a VP that thinks this is ok too.

I'm telling you, MCCAIN is the one who is being deceptive, not Obama.

[Rico]

McCain, however is not opposed to having a VP that thinks this is ok too.

I'm telling you, MCCAIN is the one who is being deceptive, not Obama.

Yup. Plus, McCain is under the thumb of lobbyists.

[Sam]

Yup. Plus, McCain is under the thumb of lobbyists.


Aren't they all?

What does PAC mean?
Payoff And Corruption

[Jermyn Davidson]

Aren't they all?

What does PAC mean?
Payoff And Corruption

Sam, I'm telling you. McCain is not a different type of politician at all. If he is elected, we will be electing another dishonest politician who speaks in short sound bites that appeal to the ignorant's lack of desire for in depth analysis of the issues that pertain to our country, globally and domestically.

"Drill here, drill now"???

It's stupid!!! But more and more Aericans are becomming convinced that drilling in ANWR or off the coast of Florida, Texas wherever is going to help our situation, in the near future.

More drilling is not the answer. However, only after serious thought and analysis can one realize this.

McCain's political demeanor appeals to those who want direct answers, quick fixes, right now.

But life is much more complex than that.

Obama is more honest than McCain.

[gloryseeker]

Sam, I'm telling you. McCain is not a different type of politician at all. If he is elected, we will be electing another dishonest politician who speaks in short sound bites that appeal to the ignorant's lack of desire for in depth analysis of the issues that pertain to our country, globally and domestically.

"Drill here, drill now"???

It's stupid!!! But more and more Aericans are becomming convinced that drilling in ANWR or off the coast of Florida, Texas wherever is going to help our situation, in the near future.

More drilling is not the answer. However, only after serious thought and analysis can one realize this.

McCain's political demeanor appeals to those who want direct answers, quick fixes, right now.

But life is much more complex than that.

Obama is more honest than McCain.

You are a pretty brilliant person....ahhhh, shortage of oil imports, skyrocketing prices...but more old won't help us.

You ought to take an economics 101 class instead of listening to the talking points that you apparently don't like. :crazy

[Jermyn Davidson]

You are a pretty brilliant person....ahhhh, shortage of oil imports, skyrocketing prices...but more old won't help us.

You ought to take an economics 101 class instead of listening to the talking points that you apparently don't like. :crazy


LOL! I think I sense a li't bit of sarcasm. However, here is the truth.

The increase in oil production gained from drilling in ANWR is maybe 3%, liberal guess. We wouldn't see that increase for at least 7 years, more like 10 years;



More oil would help, but the amount that we would get from drilling in ANWR or near the Florida Everglades is not enough to help significantly.

The current suggestions are akin to slapping a band aid on a gangrenous wound.

Decrease our absolute need for oil by investing to perfect the technology for alternative fuel sources that are already at our finger tips.

Wind power to produce electricity and hydrogen cells to propel cars are two ides that can revolutionize our country's way of life. We can definitely reap the fruit of our labor quicker than 7 years if we invest in these two areas now.

These two technologies are also significantly cleaner technologies, thus improving the over all air quality in our country by reducing pollution.

[DividedThigh]

think what you will, but there is no reason to vote for obama, i can not and will not vote for anyone who sanctions abortion, and wants to raise taxes which will kill a collapsing economy, obama knows less than i about the economy, and i aint no economist, my opinion, but it is mine, dt

[Jermyn Davidson]

think what you will, but there is no reason to vote for obama, i can not and will not vote for anyone who sanctions abortion, and wants to raise taxes which will kill a collapsing economy, obama knows less than i about the economy, and i aint no economist, my opinion, but it is mine, dt

I love you brother. I appreciate your opinion and discussion of the issues concerning the coming election.

[gloryseeker]

LOL! I think I sense a li't bit of sarcasm. However, here is the truth.

The increase in oil production gained from drilling in ANWR is maybe 3%, liberal guess. We wouldn't see that increase for at least 7 years, more like 10 years;

Two issues on the above. First of all if Mr. Clinton had stopped drilling and the states of 7-10 years were true we would have more oil on the market right now...about 10 years later.

Secondly, the 7-10 estimates are government estimates and are probably accurate if the government was doing the drilling. However, according to top oil executives their estimates that they could have the oil to market within 2 years. When there is profit on the table things move.

More oil would help, but the amount that we would get from drilling in ANWR or near the Florida Everglades is not enough to help significantly.

yes and no. First of all we have got to get ourselves free from foreign oil. Right now we are oil dependent. So while we transition to alternative fuels and try to lower our dependence on oil we need to bring more non-foreign oil to the market.

There is a ton of oil in anwar and while not the total answer there is sufficient quantities to make a difference. There are also large deposits of the coasts of Florida and California and it is estimated that the there is more oil in the Rockies than in Saudia and a couple of other oil countries combined.

We have more than sufficient to make a HUGE difference.

The current suggestions are akin to slapping a band aid on a gangrenous wound.

Even if you were right, which you are totally wrong, the difference is enough to move the markets which affect the price because the markets don't move on actually supplies, but expectations of supply.

Decrease our absolute need for oil by investing to perfect the technology for alternative fuel sources that are already at our finger tips.

While you are right we need to do this and it would be good to lower our overall oil consumption, the US is not in a position to move on a dime. There is going to be a transition. By utilizing all sources we can make the transition, but oil production is part the process.

Wind power to produce electricity and hydrogen cells to propel cars are two ides that can revolutionize our country's way of life. We can definitely reap the fruit of our labor quicker than 7 years if we invest in these two areas now.

Sure, but again there is a transition period. Estimates are that wind power can produce maybe 20%, the technology for hydrogen cells have a way to go before they become real viable.

The other aspect of drilling now, while we desperately need the oil prices to come down is the positive impact drilling will have on our economy. Jobs are created, taxes are paid, which brings stimulation to the overall economy.

[gloryseeker]

Two issues on the above. First of all if Mr. Clinton had stopped drilling and the states of 7-10 years were true we would have more oil on the market right now...about 10 years later.

the above statement "Two issues on the above. First of all if Mr. Clinton had stopped drilling..." Should read... "...if Mr. Clinton hadn't stopped the drilling legislation in Anwar and the statistics of 7-10 years were true..."

Sorry for the horrible typo :snapout

[DividedThigh]

I love you brother. I appreciate your opinion and discussion of the issues concerning the coming election.
always appreaciate your input bro, you know i got your back no matter what happens, dt

[Falla39]

It just might be that if Wade vs Roe (which was based on a lie, confessed
by the Roe person, who now speaks against abortion), would be overturned,
God might be willing to bring answers to some of the other issues.

I, personally don't look for too many resolutions to the other issues until this
tragic decision of 1973 is overturned. It may get pretty bad, but God can
turn up the heat in some areas until those who name the name of Christ and
called themselves His followers are WILLING to do what is right!

A little chorus in a Theo Harris hymnbook called "Hornets" went like this:

If a nest of wild hornets were brought to this room,
And the critters allowed to go free.
You would not need urging to make yourself scarce,
You'd want to get out, don't you see.

He will not compel you to go, O, No,
He will not compel you to go.
He will not compel you to go 'gainst your will,
He'll just make you willing to go!

When I was a child and didn't want to do what my father instructed me to
do, he had a way of helping me to be willing to do his will. It was in the form
of a keen, stinging little branch. My strong will couldn't stand against the
pain of that stinging switch. I still didn't want to, but I DID get willing.

My God-given father knew what was best for me as a godly parent. I did not
as a child. Perhaps some were never disciplined to learn the difference
between the father's will and their will. Some may never had fathers to
discipline them. I had a earthly father who taught me the things about the
Heavenly Father. Dad pointed to Him often. Never to himself. Thank you,
Daddy!

Our Heavenly Father gives us the opportunity as His children to do what is
right and is patient. He will send someone to tell us the truth and then we
are accountable for the truth entrusted to us. But when we willingly (our own
will) continue to go against HIS Will (WORD), He KNOWS HOW and WHAT it
will take to break our will and be willing to obey HIS WILL (WORD).

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, knowledge and under-
standing. The fear of man bringeth a snare. (trap)

I will fear no evil for THOU art with me!

Blessings,

Falla39

[Falla39]

God favors the Rightous, the wise.

Check it out.

Ecclesiastes 10:2--

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left."

Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.
Prov. 14:34

Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD;
Psalms 33:12, in part.

Falla39

[Falla39]

Stand up! stand up for Jesus!
Ye soldiers of the cross;
Lift high His royal banner,
It must not suffer loss:
From vict'ry unto vict'ry
His army shall He lead,
Till every foe is vanquished
And Christ is Lord indeed.

Stand up for Jesus
Ye soldiers of the cross;
Lift high His royal banner,
It must not, it must not suffer loss.

[Rico]

You know what I think is funny? We have found so many different ways of saying the same thing, but we still sound like broken records, repeating the same thing over and over again. Hehehehehehehe! I wonder what we will find to go 'round and 'round over after the election? I hope it isn't standards!!! :lol

[Falla39]

Now, Bro. Rico, you know I love you AND your family. I really, really do!!!

There are times that others have to stand in the GAP:
a: a break in a barrier (as a wall, hedge, or line of military defense.

Being on my grandfather's farm as a child, I recall what was called a gap.
(The open space between two posts) where an enemy can slip through, if
someone isn't there to keep them out. Just anyone can't guard the gate
because they do not recognize who the enemy is.

Just a senior saint, mother, grandmother trying to help guard the gate (gap) to
keep the enemy out until someone else takes my watch.

Blessings,

Falla39

[Rico]

Now, Bro. Rico, you know I love you AND your family. I really, really do!!!

There are times that others have to stand in the GAP:
a: a break in a barrier (as a wall, hedge, or line of military defense.

Being on my grandfather's farm as a child, I recall what was called a gap.
(The open space between two posts) where an enemy can slip through, if
someone isn't there to keep them out. Just anyone can't guard the gate
because they do not recognize who the enemy is.

Just a senior saint, mother, grandmother trying to help guard the gate (gap) to
keep the enemy out until someone else takes my watch.

Blessings,

Falla39

Sister, I said "we", not "you." :D We're all saying the same things over and over again, using different words.

[Falla39]

Bro. Rico,

But you needed to know I loved you and your family anyway!!!Right!

We all need to do what we can do to stand in the gap and make sure
the enemy doesn't come in and steal or destroy our children. We know
who it is that comes to kill and destroy. We just don't want the enemy
to kill and destroy anyone's children, do we!!

Blessings,

Falla39

[Jermyn Davidson]

Two issues on the above.
(1)
First of all if Mr. Clinton had stopped drilling and the states of 7-10 years were true we would have more oil on the market right now...about 10 years later.

(2)
Secondly, the 7-10 estimates are government estimates and are probably accurate if the government was doing the drilling. However, according to top oil executives their estimates that they could have the oil to market within 2 years. When there is profit on the table things move.


(3)
yes and no. First of all we have got to get ourselves free from foreign oil. Right now we are oil dependent. So while we transition to alternative fuels and try to lower our dependence on oil we need to bring more non-foreign oil to the market.


(4)
There is a ton of oil in anwar and while not the total answer there is sufficient quantities to make a difference. There are also large deposits of the coasts of Florida and California and it is estimated that the there is more oil in the Rockies than in Saudia and a couple of other oil countries combined.

We have more than sufficient to make a HUGE difference.


(5)
Even if you were right, which you are totally wrong, the difference is enough to move the markets which affect the price because the markets don't move on actually supplies, but expectations of supply.


(6)
While you are right we need to do this and it would be good to lower our overall oil consumption, the US is not in a position to move on a dime. There is going to be a transition. By utilizing all sources we can make the transition, but oil production is part the process.


(7)
Sure, but again there is a transition period. Estimates are that wind power can produce maybe 20%, the technology for hydrogen cells have a way to go before they become real viable.


(8)
The other aspect of drilling now, while we desperately need the oil prices to come down is the positive impact drilling will have on our economy. Jobs are created, taxes are paid, which brings stimulation to the overall economy.



(1)
First off, it was Bush Sr that stopped drilling in ANWR from being a possibility, when it was originally sponsored through Congress by a Democrat from Louisiana.

The year that Mr. Clinton was involved in all this was a critical year for the budget-- I should know because in 1995, as a military man, we were told that WE WOULD LIKELY NOT BE PAID because the Govt could not pass a budget. We were paid and the budget that was submitted to Mr. Clinton by the Republican controlled Congress of 1995 DID NOT include ANWR drilling funds.


(2)
John Hoffmeister, Former President of Shell Oil America says it is not worth the time and effort to drill ANWR! There ISN'T ENOUGH OIL THERE for the hassle involved. This Oil Exec. knows better than you or I.

However, drilling off of the coast of Alaska could create upwards of several hundred thousand jobs, according to John Hoffmeister. However, the REPUBLICANS wisely banned this in 1990, enforced by an Executive Order, issued by Bush Sr himself.

There is not a politician, Democrat or Republican open to the idea of ruining the only pristine place left on earth for the sake of oil. Which is why we must, as a country, simply move away from being oil dependent.


(3)
Our "oil dependency" on the Middle East has served the purposes of enhancing our national security by ensuring our influence monetarily.

Now that times are hard, we would rather "cut and run" if you will, from the effective policies of the past that ensured our influence in a part of the world where the west did not have much influence.

If our Country's Financial "Gate Keepers" were on their watch in a dutiful manner, they would have foreseen this mess and attempted to steer the country back on track. Again, we have gone through 2 financial shake ups in this country while this Admin has been in power. This third one IS THEIR DOING and they need to take responsibility for it.

Since the "Middle East" is wise to our ways of influence, we need to find other ways to ensure our influence. Select American "businessmen" are making that their new assignment-- with the blessing of the American government of course.

(4)
Again, there is NOT ENOUGH OIL IN ANWR TO MAKE BIG DIFFERENCE! The USGS, Shell Oil and Environmentalists all agree on this. Apparently, so did Bush Sr.

"Drill Here, Drill Now!" is political curd for the not so educated folk to chew on. it sounds good, but it's not sensible-- according to the experts.


(5)
I am right. I have actually researched your posting before responding to ensure that I am right. If I wasn't, I'd gladly say, you are right.

But I gladly say you are worng because that is what you are: wrong.

(6)
"By utilizing all resources" we don't have enough money to adequately research and perfect any one resource in a timely fashion. The quicker we cut our dependence on oil, the better for our nation.


(7)
There are wind turbines and there are also "Ocean Turbines". This technology is not new. There is something of this sort being built right now to be the power source for Delaware, Maryland and Virginia. "Drill here! Drill Now!" Should be replaced with "Build Here, Build Now!"


(8)
Technology is changing and moving forward-- with or without America. Let's enact policies that encourage American businesses to be be at the forefront of technology, instead of being behind and reactive to our changing world.