John McCain says "F word You!" during Interview

[HappyTown]

This man has Angry issues!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvvg6slPo0s&feature=related

[Pressing-On]

Please. Line all the Senators up and compare notes. lol

[HappyTown]

Please. Line all the Senators up and compare notes. lol

But this one running for office, it seem he has issues with controlling his angry. This is not the only occasion he has lost it!

[rgcraig]

But this one running for office, it seem he has issues with controlling his angry. This is not the only occasion he has lost it!

Lol - have you watched Biden every?

[MissBrattified]

But this one running for office, it seem he has issues with controlling his angry. This is not the only occasion he has lost it!

Please. My nephew uses that F word in general conversation. He doesn't have to be mad to use it. LOL!!!! I'm not excusing the language, but LOTS of secular people talk that way, including MANY politicians who have ran for office, or are currently IN office.

[rgcraig]

NoSoHappyTown - it was during a closed Caucus Debate - not an interview - misleading.

[Elizabeth]

Oh I think I'll change my vote now!


...............................J/K :D:D:D

[Pressing-On]

Oh I think I'll change my vote now!


...............................J/K :D:D:D

What about Hillary cursing at Secret Service? :ursofunny

[jaxfam6]

But this one running for office, it seem he has issues with controlling his angry. This is not the only occasion he has lost it!

There is nothing here that indicates he "lost it"

[Elizabeth]

What about Hillary cursing at Secret Service? :ursofunny

:lol:lol:lol

[Jekyll]

This is so funny, the man obviously has direction and has concrete ideas. The other guy has nothing so all of his supporters have to pull out the desperation tactics.

PO, are you handing out buttons? I would love one of those!

[Margies3]

See, that explains why I am not voting for President. Nope. I'm voting for VICE President.

:tease

[Pressing-On]

This is so funny, the man obviously has direction and has concrete ideas. The other guy has nothing so all of his supporters have to pull out the desperation tactics.

PO, are you handing out buttons? I would love one of those!

Purchase then here:

http://www.goptrunk.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BTR4021&Redirected=Y

[HappyTown]

If I get it, it's perfectly OK to use the F word as long as one is a senator or running for President???

Your all so full of it, it's not even funny, lets be real if someone came on here using such a word would be banned, spoke badly of.

Second, to say it's ok because after all McCain was not being interviewed. If anything this should raised a red flag. This would indicated McCain not being himself while in public, he a fake! Pretending to be something he not! No wonder this nation in such a mess, maybe it be good if Christians were not allowed to vote!

[Subdued]

If I get it, it's perfectly OK to use the F word as long as one is a senator or running for President???

Your all so full of it, it's not even funny, lets be real if someone came on here using such a word would be banned, spoke badly of.

Second, to say it's ok because after all McCain was not being interviewed. If anything this should raised a red flag. This would indicated McCain not being himself while in public, he a fake! Pretending to be something he not! No wonder this nation in such a mess, maybe it be good if Christians were not allowed to vote!

Full of what???

[AmazingGrace]

Full of what???

Oh dont make her/him/it say a curse word! Because you know thats not what is implied here nah ROFL

[MissBrattified]

If I get it, it's perfectly OK to use the F word as long as one is a senator or running for President???

Your all so full of it, it's not even funny, lets be real if someone came on here using such a word would be banned, spoke badly of.

Second, to say it's ok because after all McCain was not being interviewed. If anything this should raised a red flag. This would indicated McCain not being himself while in public, he a fake! Pretending to be something he not! No wonder this nation in such a mess, maybe it be good if Christians were not allowed to vote!

HT,

If it were reported that Obama said a curse word, I wouldn't blink an eye. I don't consider bad language to be immoral--just in bad taste. And quite frankly, I expect it from secular men, especially those who are or have been in the military. *shrug*

If this was supposed to be a big point or something, you missed it. This is REALLY old news, first of all, and secondly, who cares?

[TRFrance]

If I get it, it's perfectly OK to use the F word as long as one is a senator or running for President???

Your all so full of it, it's not even funny, lets be real if someone came on here using such a word would be banned, spoke badly of.

Second, to say it's ok because after all McCain was not being interviewed. If anything this should raised a red flag. This would indicated McCain not being himself while in public, he a fake! Pretending to be something he not! No wonder this nation in such a mess, maybe it be good if Christians were not allowed to vote!
Spare us your indignation.
Obama is on record as using the F word too. Did you know that? And now that you know, do you now feel he's disqualified from being president for using the F word?

No one here is saying its ok... but it's a fact of life. People curse.
Cursing doesn't disqualify someone from being president.

Other presidents have been known to have "anger issues" too, such as Johnson, Nixon, and Bill Clinton, to name a few.

Its clear by now that you're not a fan of McCain... but if you're looking for reasons why people shouldn't vote for him, this is pretty weak. Maybe you just have a little too much time on your hands, buddy. This right here is ridiculous.

[Elizabeth]

Spare us your indignation.
Obama is on record as using the F word too. Did you know that? And now that you know, do you feel he's disqualified from being president for using the F word?

No one here is saying its ok... but it's a fact of life. People curse.
Cursing doesn't disqualify someone from being president.

Other presidents have been known to have "anger issues" too, such as Johnson, Nixon, and Bill Clinton, to name a few.

Its clear by now that you're not a fan of McCain... but if you're looking for reasons why people shouldn't vote for him, this is pretty weak. Maybe you just have a little too much time on your hands, buddy. This right here is ridiculous.

I think whether a candidate curses or not is the LEAST of our concerns!

Good Post BTW.

[TRFrance]

Full of what???

Oh dont make her/him/it say a curse word! Because you know thats not what is implied here nah ROFL
Yes, we definitely know what's implied....

...which is why I find that term very inappropriate for Christians to use.

So maybe instead of worrying about McCain's choice of words, he might want to pay attention to his own.

[AmazingGrace]

Yes, we definitely know what's implied....

...which is why I find that term very inappropriate for Christians to use.

So maybe instead of worrying about McCain's choice of words, he might want to pay attention to his own.

Exactly and thank you!

[MissBrattified]

Oh Look!!!!!!

Obama says he's used some "juicy" curse words.

"I have to tell you, I’ve used some really harsh curse words. the really good ones, the juicy ones,” he said to laughter by several hundred people packed into a school auditorium."

Source (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2007/12/30/obama-says-hes-used-some-juicy-curse-words/)

[Elizabeth]

HT,

If it were reported that Obama said a curse word, I wouldn't blink an eye. I don't consider bad language to be immoral--just in bad taste. And quite frankly, I expect it from secular men, especially those who are or have been in the military. *shrug*

If this was supposed to be a big point or something, you missed it. This is REALLY old news, first of all, and secondly, who cares?

You are making too much sense for some one who is suppose to be "full of it." :D

[AmazingGrace]

Oh Look!!!!!!

Obama says he's used some "juicy" curse words.

"I have to tell you, I’ve used some really harsh curse words. the really good ones, the juicy ones,” he said to laughter by several hundred people packed into a school auditorium."

Source (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2007/12/30/obama-says-hes-used-some-juicy-curse-words/)

Oh no not obama!!! Couldnt be!!! Dont tell Whineytown! Please NOOOOOOO LOL

[Elizabeth]

Oh Look!!!!!!

Obama says he's used some "juicy" curse words.

"I have to tell you, I’ve used some really harsh curse words. the really good ones, the juicy ones,” he said to laughter by several hundred people packed into a school auditorium."

Source (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2007/12/30/obama-says-hes-used-some-juicy-curse-words/)

He should remove himself from the democratic ticket for sure.

[Elizabeth]

Yes, we definitely know what's implied....

...which is why I find that term very inappropriate for Christians to use.

So maybe instead of worrying about McCain's choice of words, he might want to pay attention to his own.

That's kind of funny, here we have a thread about cursing and the poster of the thread makes a reference to a saying that ends with a curse word.


interesting!

[Ferd]

was he talking about Patrick Leahy? if so I have it on good autority he deserved it.

[MissBrattified]

You are making too much sense for some one who is suppose to be "full of it." :D

Has HT defined "it" yet? :coffee2

[Ferd]

If I get it, it's perfectly OK to use the F word as long as one is a senator or running for President???

Your all so full of it, it's not even funny, lets be real if someone came on here using such a word would be banned, spoke badly of.

Second, to say it's ok because after all McCain was not being interviewed. If anything this should raised a red flag. This would indicated McCain not being himself while in public, he a fake! Pretending to be something he not! No wonder this nation in such a mess, maybe it be good if Christians were not allowed to vote!

Its perfectly OK to be a lunitic liberal just dont expect many people around here to find this insip act interesting.

[Elizabeth]

Has HT defined "it" yet? :coffee2

:popcorn2 I guess we will have to wait and see!

Perhaps in their own little happytown it means something wonderful like candy!(doubt it though)

[Elizabeth]

Its perfectly OK to be a lunitic liberal just dont expect many people around here to find this insip act interesting.

We aren't too good at faking it are we?

[HappyTown]

I think I proved my point!!! It's ok to use cuss words as long as your running for office! But not an average Joe. Please!!!!

10 Things You Should Know About McCain (but probably don’t)

Posted on April 5, 2008 by Chris Guy

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain “will make Cheney look like Gandhi.”2

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.”4

5. The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill.5

6. He’s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a “second job” and skip their vacations.6

McCain7. Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

John McCain is not who the Washington press corps make him out to be. Please help get the word out.

As to the remark about use

[AmazingGrace]

Some people are just slow! Sorry but I guess they cant help it!

[HappyTown]

That's ok Jesus was always the odd ball, ! ...;)

[MissBrattified]

I think I proved my point!!! It's ok to use cuss words as long as your running for office! But not an average Joe. Please!!!!

Dear HappyTown,

I don't care if the average Joe uses cuss words either. Since when do we go around judging secular people for using bad language?

Sincerely,
The Brat

[RevDWW]

That's ok Jesus was always the odd ball, ! ...;)

So is Obama a socialist? Wasn't he voted the most liberal senator, to the left of Hillary?

[TRFrance]

Has HT defined "it" yet? :coffee2

Well, not exactly.

But my gift of discernment must be really sharp today... because I think I've discerned what "it" is.
:rolleyes:

[Pressing-On]

I say the "F" word ALL the time. So what?









































FUN, FUN, FUN, FUN, FUN

THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN!!!!

:bliss :bliss :bliss

[Elizabeth]

I say the "F" word ALL the time. So what?



FUN, FUN, FUN, FUN, FUN

THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN!!!!

:bliss :bliss :bliss

That's FANTASTIC!:):):)

[MissBrattified]

Fantabulous!!!!!

[rgcraig]

NotsoHappyTown you are very entertaining.

[Pressing-On]

Fastidiously

[MissBrattified]

Freakishly

[Pressing-On]

Fibrillating

[Ferd]

That's ok Jesus was always the odd ball, ! ...;)

Jesus was always right. your just spewing liberal hate speech.

that dont make you like Jesus. It just makes you something akin to a "community organizer"


Definition:
Community Organizer: Liberal agitator with very little real worth in society.

[Ferd]

I think I proved my point!!! It's ok to use cuss words as long as your running for office! But not an average Joe. Please!!!!

10 Things You Should Know About McCain (but probably don’t)

Posted on April 5, 2008 by Chris Guy

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain “will make Cheney look like Gandhi.”2

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.”4

5. The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill.5

6. He’s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a “second job” and skip their vacations.6

McCain7. Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

John McCain is not who the Washington press corps make him out to be. Please help get the word out.

As to the remark about use


First, you havent made any point other than you are an oddball liberal hatemonger.

and two, John McCain seems to be even more my kind of president after reading this! thanks!

[rgcraig]

Alert - - -new user name

FunkyTown

[MissBrattified]

Alert - - -new user name

FunkyTown

:ursofunny

[crakjak]

was he talking about Patrick Leahy? if so I have it on good autority he deserved it.

Or Joseph Biden!!!

[Pressing-On]

Fugacious

Sorry, I'm bored waiting for an email to come through. My daughter and her husband bought Obama and McCain masks and they are taking pictures! :ursofunny

[tstew]

Jesus was always right. your just spewing liberal hate speech.

that dont make you like Jesus. It just makes you something akin to a "community organizer"


Definition:
Community Organizer: Liberal agitator with very little real worth in society.

Ferd, you're my man and I love you, but I am somewhat concerned that I'm seeing you and others personally attack individuals on the forum. When having discussions about third parties and issues, I feel like it is an improper jump to begin attacking the person that you are talking to (no matter who makes that jump). It seems to be becoming more and more rampant around here.
There have been many things posted that I do not agree with, even things that are blatantly illogical and delusional to me. I feel like it is my duty to address whatever issue we are discussing and not immediately resort to attacking the person. There were times that I may have wanted to say "what a blubbering idiot", but I just don't think that that is the way we should address each other...particularly when the conversations we are having are in large about third parties.

[Ferd]

Ferd, you're my man and I love you, but I am somewhat concerned that I'm seeing you and others personally attack individuals on the forum. When having discussions about third parties and issues, I feel like it is an improper jump to begin attacking the person that you are talking to (no matter who makes that jump). It seems to be becoming more and more rampant around here.
There have been many things posted that I do not agree with, even things that are blatantly illogical and delusional to me. I feel like it is my duty to address whatever issue we are discussing and not immediately resort to attacking the person. There were times that I may have wanted to say "what a blubbering idiot", but I just don't think that that is the way we should address each other...particularly when the conversations we are having are in large about third parties.

I appreciate you my friend. I suppose you are right.... I really ought to back off a bit....

I tell you what, I will sleep on it. let me just say, I dont have an issue discussing things with rational people that disagree with me.... but both in real life and on a forum when I run into an irrational person who spews acinine liberal hate speech, I tend to push back. ... hard.


but I will take your advice. I appreciate you.

[Ferd]

Or Joseph Biden!!!

LOL! You missed the reference.

Dick Cheny told Patric Leahy to go "Fword" himself or some such a few years ago.


evidnetly Senator Leahy is a nasty fellow. :ursofunny

[Elizabeth]

Fugacious

Sorry, I'm bored waiting for an email to come through. My daughter and her husband bought Obama and McCain masks and they are taking pictures! :ursofunny

You've got to post those!

[tstew]

I appreciate you my friend. I suppose you are right.... I really ought to back off a bit....

I tell you what, I will sleep on it. let me just say, I dont have an issue discussing things with rational people that disagree with me.... but both in real life and on a forum when I run into an irrational person who spews acinine liberal hate speech, I tend to push back. ... hard.


but I will take your advice. I appreciate you.

Ferd, I've got to tell you that my "Ferd Respecto-meter" just topped out while reading this post. I appreciate your spirit and your stance and I am glad that you're able to see that I am not simply trying to be confrontational myself. The issue of politics can be very frustrating...particularly since very few people particularly on this forum are very excited about the direction our society is headed.
Pushing back hard is good...it makes for particularly good reading:). I would just make sure that I was pushing back hard against the post and not the other Christian.

God Bless,

[Pressing-On]

Here's my daughter (Obama) and our SIL (McCain). He said he never uses bad language! :ursofunny


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/pressing-on/ObamaVSMcCain.jpg

[Pressing-On]

Another shot at our prestigous candidates!!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/pressing-on/ObamaVSMcCain2.jpg

[Blsdbeyondmsure]

I think I proved my point!!! It's ok to use cuss words as long as your running for office! But not an average Joe. Please!!!!

10 Things You Should Know About McCain (but probably don’t)

Posted on April 5, 2008 by Chris Guy

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain “will make Cheney look like Gandhi.”2

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.”4

5. The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill.5

6. He’s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a “second job” and skip their vacations.6

McCain7. Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

John McCain is not who the Washington press corps make him out to be. Please help get the word out.

As to the remark about use


Blah! Blah! Blah!

What you might want to know that while John McCain is indeed wealthy, he is also very committed to charitable giving.

Google - John McCain Tax returns

You will find the following facts:

Since 1998 John McCain has given $1.8M to charitable organizations from his book proceeds.

Since 1991 John McCain has given his salary increase from his senate salary to charity for a cumulative total of $450K. This is because he opposes the congressional pay increase.

In addition to these charitable donations, he & his wife also make sizable contributions from their shared assets. The amount in 2007 was $210K.

Now for FUN google - Barack Obama's tax returns.

You'll find the following charitable donations:

2000 - $2,350 (<1% of his income)
2001 - $1,470 (<1% of his income)
2002 - $1,050 (<1% of his income)
2003 - $3,400 (<1% of his income)
2004 - $2,500 (<1% of his income)
2005 - $77,315 (<5% of his income)
2006 - $60,307 (6.7% of his income)

So excuse me if I find it a little hypocritical that Obama says America's biggest moral failure is not doing unto the least of them. Why doesn't he put his money where his mouth is?

Yes, I find it quite irritating & annoying when politicians want to spend my money on every feel good social program under the sun, but haven't made charitable giving a priority with their own personal finances. I prefer to make my charitable donations where I see fit, rather than a forced contribution to a failed government program.

[rgcraig]

Go bsldbeyond!!!!!

I'd expect figures from you!

[Elizabeth]

Another shot at our prestigous candidates!!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/pressing-on/ObamaVSMcCain2.jpg

These are great! Love it!

Thanks for posting them :D, I especially like the McCain one, it looks a lot him. The thumbsup reminds of McCain too!

[Blsdbeyondmsure]

Go bsldbeyond!!!!!

I'd expect figures from you!

But of course!:D

[HappyTown]

Blah! Blah! Blah!

What you might want to know that while John McCain is indeed wealthy, he is also very committed to charitable giving.

Google - John McCain Tax returns

You will find the following facts:

Since 1998 John McCain has given $1.8M to charitable organizations from his book proceeds.

Since 1991 John McCain has given his salary increase from his senate salary to charity for a cumulative total of $450K. This is because he opposes the congressional pay increase.

In addition to these charitable donations, he & his wife also make sizable contributions from their shared assets. The amount in 2007 was $210K.

Now for FUN google - Barack Obama's tax returns.

You'll find the following charitable donations:

2000 - $2,350 (<1% of his income)
2001 - $1,470 (<1% of his income)
2002 - $1,050 (<1% of his income)
2003 - $3,400 (<1% of his income)
2004 - $2,500 (<1% of his income)
2005 - $77,315 (<5% of his income)
2006 - $60,307 (6.7% of his income)

So excuse me if I find it a little hypocritical that Obama says America's biggest moral failure is not doing unto the least of them. Why doesn't he put his money where his mouth is?

Yes, I find it quite irritating & annoying when politicians want to spend my money on every feel good social program under the sun, but haven't made charitable giving a priority with their own personal finances. I prefer to make my charitable donations where I see fit, rather than a forced contribution to a failed government program.

More facts as well!

From NBC's Mark Murray
In her interview with TODAY's Ann Curry, Cindy McCain stated that she would not release her tax returns -- even if she becomes first lady.

The Democratic National Committee has decided to jump on this, noting how Cindy McCain's wealth has benefited her husband's political career. For example, John McCain -- when his campaign was struggling with money.
"John McCain may not like it, but the American people have a right to know about the well documented links between his political career and the McCains' business ventures," DNC chairman Howard Dean said in a statement. "John McCain's refusal to meet the standard of every other candidate seeking the office is one more reason he's the wrong choice for America's future." Today co-host Meredith Vieira -- that Cindy McCain's tax returns would also indicate the extent to which the McCains have benefited from the Bush tax cuts -- which John McCain supports extending permanently, despite previously opposing them. On April 18, the McCain campaign released John McCain's 2006 and 2007 income tax returns, but not Cindy McCain's separate returns. As part of John McCain's tax returns, the campaign released the "Wages and Salaries" that Cindy McCain received in 2006 and 2007 as chair of Hensley & Co., the McCains' share of interest income from a bank account, and their shares of income from John McCain's book royalties. But the information did not reveal the capital gains income, if any, for Cindy McCain from that period.

By contrast, Teresa Heinz Kerry, the wife of Sen. John Kerry, did release what The New York Times reported on October 16, 2004, was a "two-page document" showing "total income of $5,073,554 last year" that enabled the Times to determine how much she had benefited from the Bush tax cuts.

So whats Cindy really hiding????

[Blsdbeyondmsure]

More facts as well!

From NBC's Mark Murray
In her interview with TODAY's Ann Curry, Cindy McCain stated that she would not release her tax returns -- even if she becomes first lady.

The Democratic National Committee has decided to jump on this, noting how Cindy McCain's wealth has benefited her husband's political career. For example, John McCain -- when his campaign was struggling with money.
"John McCain may not like it, but the American people have a right to know about the well documented links between his political career and the McCains' business ventures," DNC chairman Howard Dean said in a statement. "John McCain's refusal to meet the standard of every other candidate seeking the office is one more reason he's the wrong choice for America's future." Today co-host Meredith Vieira -- that Cindy McCain's tax returns would also indicate the extent to which the McCains have benefited from the Bush tax cuts -- which John McCain supports extending permanently, despite previously opposing them. On April 18, the McCain campaign released John McCain's 2006 and 2007 income tax returns, but not Cindy McCain's separate returns. As part of John McCain's tax returns, the campaign released the "Wages and Salaries" that Cindy McCain received in 2006 and 2007 as chair of Hensley & Co., the McCains' share of interest income from a bank account, and their shares of income from John McCain's book royalties. But the information did not reveal the capital gains income, if any, for Cindy McCain from that period.

By contrast, Teresa Heinz Kerry, the wife of Sen. John Kerry, did release what The New York Times reported on October 16, 2004, was a "two-page document" showing "total income of $5,073,554 last year" that enabled the Times to determine how much she had benefited from the Bush tax cuts.

So whats Cindy really hiding????

I'm sorry you mustn't have updated your research lately. On John McCain's website Cindy's 2006 tax return Form 1040 is posted. She made $6M in 2006 with $743K in capital gains income.

I'm not sure I get your point?? Seriously, you want me to take an article serious that quotes Howard Dean & Meredith Viera as unbiased bastions of truth? Hmmm, yeah, not so much.

[Neck]

This man has Angry issues!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvvg6slPo0s&feature=related

Chaney, Bush 41, "W", Clinton and many others have been caught on tape saying the exact same word.

I would not say that word, but many of the Democrats have brought me close to the tip of my tounge.

We all are human.

[HappyTown]

I'm sorry you mustn't have updated your research lately. On John McCain's website Cindy's 2006 tax return Form 1040 is posted. She made $6M in 2006 with $743K in capital gains income.

I'm not sure I get your point?? Seriously, you want me to take an article serious that quotes Howard Dean & Meredith Viera as unbiased bastions of truth? Hmmm, yeah, not so much.

Excuse me but McCain's only released part, I want see all!!! So again, what our they hiding????

Hmmm the nation’s largest beer wholesaler, maybe they don't want Christian's to know that, wait gets better (the third-largest Budweiser wholesaler in the nation.)


Sen. John McCain unexpectedly released part of his wife’s 2006 tax return on Friday, showing that she reported income of $6.1 million through a combination of salary, dividends, capital gains and payments from trusts.

Cindy McCain, who controls one of the nation’s largest beer wholesalers, has steadfastly refused to discuss her finances, saying she wants to protect her children’s privacy. But late Friday, McCain’s campaign office posted her two-page IRS Form 1040 on the Internet.

The campaign didn’t release any of the supporting schedules, meaning that only the amounts and not the sources of her income are made public.

It shows that she took a salary of $299,418, apparently paid out by Hensley & Co., which she inherited from her father and which is said to be the third-largest Budweiser wholesaler in the nation.

She also earned $283,240 in ordinary dividends, $743,476 in capital gains and $4,551,901 in rentals, royalties, partnerships or trusts, which are most likely part of her vast network of investments. She paid federal income taxes of about $2 million and filed for a refund of $296,110.

McCain released his tax return last month, prompting critics to charge that the campaign was failing to disclose important information about the family’s wealth, since the couple file separate returns. Cindy McCain’s income dwarfs McCain’s Senate salary, military disability pension and book royalties, which exceeded $400,000 in 2007.

The campaign put out the release Friday afternoon after holding the attention of the nation’s new media on McCain’s healthcare records. The twin disclosures were timed on the eve of a holiday weekend, apparently to disclose the news when public attention would be least focused on the campaign.

Asked about the timing of the tax records and McCain’s medical records, Republican strategist Dan Schnur quipped:

“Christmas Eve would have been ideal, but that would have been a problem given the election calendar.”

“If you have a lot of good news, you want to spread it out over a period of time so that each piece gets the information it deserves,” said Schnur, who was the communications director for McCain’s 2000 presidential run, but is neutral this year. “If you’ve got a lot of controversy – you want to roll it out all at once. There’s only so many column inches in the newspaper, there’s only so many minutes on an evening newscast – they can’t spend 22 minutes talking about the McCain campaign, so you might as well empty the gutters.”

Schnur said the release of the tax return probably would not make the issue go away, but it could make it less visible.

ralph.vartabedian@ latimes.com

[RunningOnFaith]

McCain also stated according to the new Bob Woodward book that "everything is F*^*ing spin" in relationship to the Bush administrations handling of the war. Although most secular people use profanity, it does seem that Sen. McCain has quite a problem with his temper. Earlier this year conservative Sen. Thad Cochran-R Mississippi made the following statement.

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

[HappyTown]

McCain also stated according to the new Bob Woodward book that "everything is F*^*ing spin" in relationship to the Bush administrations handling of the war. Although most secular people use profanity, it does seem that Sen. McCain has quite a problem with his temper. Earlier this year conservative Sen. Thad Cochran-R Mississippi made the following statement.

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."


The same here, yet folks want dismissed his bad temper. Sorry, I don't want someone in charge who seemly loses it so easy. We are talking about someone who will give the finally orders to attacked and launch missiles! Nope I don't trust him, he blows way to easy. He a threat to all thinking Americans!

[tv1a]

BIG FISHING DEAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He displayed passion about the topic. It was the appropriate word.

[TRFrance]

These are great! Love it!

Thanks for posting them :D, I especially like the McCain one, it looks a lot him. The thumbsup reminds of McCain too!
I agree. They could have made the Obama mask look more like Obama. I don't think they did such a good job with that one.

But the McCain one is spot-on. I bet you'll be seeing a lot of these masks at Halloween parties this year.

[Cindy]

More facts as well!

From NBC's Mark Murray
In her interview with TODAY's Ann Curry, Cindy McCain stated that she would not release her tax returns -- even if she becomes first lady.

The Democratic National Committee has decided to jump on this, noting how Cindy McCain's wealth has benefited her husband's political career. For example, John McCain -- when his campaign was struggling with money.
"John McCain may not like it, but the American people have a right to know about the well documented links between his political career and the McCains' business ventures," DNC chairman Howard Dean said in a statement. "John McCain's refusal to meet the standard of every other candidate seeking the office is one more reason he's the wrong choice for America's future." Today co-host Meredith Vieira -- that Cindy McCain's tax returns would also indicate the extent to which the McCains have benefited from the Bush tax cuts -- which John McCain supports extending permanently, despite previously opposing them. On April 18, the McCain campaign released John McCain's 2006 and 2007 income tax returns, but not Cindy McCain's separate returns. As part of John McCain's tax returns, the campaign released the "Wages and Salaries" that Cindy McCain received in 2006 and 2007 as chair of Hensley & Co., the McCains' share of interest income from a bank account, and their shares of income from John McCain's book royalties. But the information did not reveal the capital gains income, if any, for Cindy McCain from that period.

By contrast, Teresa Heinz Kerry, the wife of Sen. John Kerry, did release what The New York Times reported on October 16, 2004, was a "two-page document" showing "total income of $5,073,554 last year" that enabled the Times to determine how much she had benefited from the Bush tax cuts.

So whats Cindy really hiding????

I am not hiding anything, and would you please leave me out of political discussions.:tease

[Brad Murphy]

I'd rather have a president that says, "Oh, Fiddlesticks"... that's sure to intimidate hostile nations.

[TRFrance]

BIG FISHING DEAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He displayed passion about the topic. It was the appropriate word.

Am I reading this right?

You think it was "appropriate" for him to use the F word?

[gaaspul]

Another shot at our prestigous candidates!!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/pressing-on/ObamaVSMcCain2.jpg


I wanna see a picture of 'em kissin' :tease

[tstew]

I agree. They could have made the Obama mask look more like Obama. I don't think they did such a good job with that one.

But the McCain one is spot-on. I bet you'll be seeing a lot of these masks at Halloween parties this year.

It looks like they intended the Obama one to be a caricature. I wonder if they were made by the same company.

[Pressing-On]

It looks like they intended the Obama one to be a caricature. I wonder if they were made by the same company.

If you really look at it, it does look a lot like him. There are some faces that are not as easy to duplicate.

Now, I just think my daughter made him look way too feminine and threw off the effect.

:ursofunny

[OP_Carl]

This man has Angry issues!

This man is a sailor. :dunno What did you expect? :bored

Unless you live in a bubble, and spend no considerable time with the un-churched, surely you realize that most non-Christian men talk this way. These days, it's gotten so prevalent that women and even some supposed "Christians" behave the same way.

If this is supposed to be shocking and scandalous :aaa :runhills :uhoh :covereyes :faint
I'm afraid it under-performs. :nah:crazy:whistle :rolleyes2

[Blsdbeyondmsure]

Excuse me but McCain's only released part, I want see all!!! So again, what our they hiding????

Hmmm the nation’s largest beer wholesaler, maybe they don't want Christian's to know that, wait gets better (the third-largest Budweiser wholesaler in the nation.)


Sen. John McCain unexpectedly released part of his wife’s 2006 tax return on Friday, showing that she reported income of $6.1 million through a combination of salary, dividends, capital gains and payments from trusts.

Cindy McCain, who controls one of the nation’s largest beer wholesalers, has steadfastly refused to discuss her finances, saying she wants to protect her children’s privacy. But late Friday, McCain’s campaign office posted her two-page IRS Form 1040 on the Internet.

The campaign didn’t release any of the supporting schedules, meaning that only the amounts and not the sources of her income are made public.

It shows that she took a salary of $299,418, apparently paid out by Hensley & Co., which she inherited from her father and which is said to be the third-largest Budweiser wholesaler in the nation.

She also earned $283,240 in ordinary dividends, $743,476 in capital gains and $4,551,901 in rentals, royalties, partnerships or trusts, which are most likely part of her vast network of investments. She paid federal income taxes of about $2 million and filed for a refund of $296,110.

McCain released his tax return last month, prompting critics to charge that the campaign was failing to disclose important information about the family’s wealth, since the couple file separate returns. Cindy McCain’s income dwarfs McCain’s Senate salary, military disability pension and book royalties, which exceeded $400,000 in 2007.

The campaign put out the release Friday afternoon after holding the attention of the nation’s new media on McCain’s healthcare records. The twin disclosures were timed on the eve of a holiday weekend, apparently to disclose the news when public attention would be least focused on the campaign.

Asked about the timing of the tax records and McCain’s medical records, Republican strategist Dan Schnur quipped:

“Christmas Eve would have been ideal, but that would have been a problem given the election calendar.”

“If you have a lot of good news, you want to spread it out over a period of time so that each piece gets the information it deserves,” said Schnur, who was the communications director for McCain’s 2000 presidential run, but is neutral this year. “If you’ve got a lot of controversy – you want to roll it out all at once. There’s only so many column inches in the newspaper, there’s only so many minutes on an evening newscast – they can’t spend 22 minutes talking about the McCain campaign, so you might as well empty the gutters.”

Schnur said the release of the tax return probably would not make the issue go away, but it could make it less visible.

ralph.vartabedian@ latimes.com

I'm sorry, I still don't get it. They released the entire 1040, just not the supporting schedules. If Theresa Heinz-Kerry only released 2 pages then Cindy McCain has released the same info as Theresa. I thought the whole point of the first article you posted was that people wanted to know how much capital gains income Cindy had so they could calculate how much she has saved relative to the Bush tax cuts.

Now it seems you're upset that she makes her money from a beer distributorship. I'm not quite understanding your point.

However, to clarify... I'm not in anyway impacted by the fact that Cindy's wealth comes from a beer distributorship. I would feel the same way if the Obama's were wealthy due to a beer distributorship. It just isn't a hot button topic for me. I'm also not jealous of their wealth, as I wasn't upset or jealous over the fact that Theresa Heinz-Kerry was the wealthy one in the Kerry's relationship & used her wealth to prop up his campaign at various times. Again not a issue that would impact my voting decision. AND.... I don't care if they saved a bundle of money from the Bush tax cuts. See I believe that everyone's money belongs to them first & foremost, not the government so the less everyone gives to the government the better.

The thing I do find a bit more interesting is that Michelle Obama's salary at the Univ of Chicago increased for $121K to $316K in one year from 2004 to 2005. Which happened to coincide with when Barak became a senator. That's a raise of $195K. Now, I've worked in corporate America for a long time in a position where I know everyone's salaries. Trust me, those kind of raises don't happen under any scenario.

Again, if I was a supporter of democratic ideals this most likely wouldn't influence my voting decision. However, if I were you I wouldn't try to point all your fingers about personal income & benefiting from your spouse's position in only John & Cindy McCain's direction.

[OP_Carl]

McCain also stated according to the new Bob Woodward book that "everything is F*^*ing spin" in relationship to the Bush administrations handling of the war. Although most secular people use profanity, it does seem that Sen. McCain has quite a problem with his temper. Earlier this year conservative Sen. Thad Cochran-R Mississippi made the following statement.

"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."

I have seen the hysteria, and it does not reside in John McCain. :laffatu :ursofunny :tattle

There is quite a difference between losing one's temper and expressing one's anger. Yelling does not make one hotheaded or hysterical. Those words are best reserved for stealing cars and brandishing weapons.

Allow me to demonstrate the difference:

When he yells and curses, John McCain expresses his anger.

This is actually healthier than bottling it up and/or holding grudges.

When she throws lamps at people, Hillary Clinton loses her temper.

When he gropes women, Bill Clinton demonstrates a hotheaded lack of self-control

[Pressing-On]

I have seen the hysteria, and it does not reside in John McCain.

There is quite a difference between losing one's temper and expressing one's anger. Yelling does not make one hotheaded or hysterical. Those words are best reserved for stealing cars and brandishing weapons.

Allow me to demonstrate the difference:

When he yells and curses, John McCain expresses his anger.

This is actually healthier than bottling it up and/or holding grudges.

When she throws lamps at people, Hillary Clinton loses her temper.

When he gropes women, Bill Clinton demonstrates a hotheaded lack of self-control

:ursofunny:ursofunny

Love it! So true!

[OP_Carl]

I'm sorry, I still don't get it. They released the entire 1040, just not the supporting schedules. If Theresa Heinz-Kerry only released 2 pages then Cindy McCain has released the same info as Theresa. I thought the whole point of the first article you posted was that people wanted to know how much capital gains income Cindy had so they could calculate how much she has saved relative to the Bush tax cuts.

Now it seems you're upset that she makes her money from a beer distributorship. I'm not quite understanding your point.

However, to clarify... I'm not in anyway impacted by the fact that Cindy's wealth comes from a beer distributorship. I would feel the same way if the Obama's were wealthy due to a beer distributorship. It just isn't a hot button topic for me. I'm also not jealous of their wealth, as I wasn't upset or jealous over the fact that Theresa Heinz-Kerry was the wealthy one in the Kerry's relationship & used her wealth to prop up his campaign at various times. Again not a issue that would impact my voting decision. AND.... I don't care if they saved a bundle of money from the Bush tax cuts. See I believe that everyone's money belongs to them first & foremost, not the government so the less everyone gives to the government the better.

The thing I do find a bit more interesting is that Michelle Obama's salary at the Univ of Chicago increased for $121K to $316K in one year from 2004 to 2005. Which happened to coincide with when Barak became a senator. That's a raise of $195K. Now, I've worked in corporate America for a long time in a position where I know everyone's salaries. Trust me, those kind of raises don't happen under any scenario.

Again, if I was a supporter of democratic ideals this most likely wouldn't influence my voting decision. However, if I were you I wouldn't try to point all your fingers about personal income & benefiting from your spouse's position in only John & Cindy McCain's direction.

I think I almost prefer wealthy candidates, as their wealth demonstrates a proficiency at MANAGING something . . .

[tstew]

I think I almost prefer wealthy candidates, as their wealth demonstrates a proficiency at MANAGING something . . .

I certainly would not want a candidate who was not successful in their endeavors, but I also prefer those who have attained the wealth themselves or at least I would give it a bit more credence.

[tstew]

Am I reading this right?

You think it was "appropriate" for him to use the F word?

It's just an extension of how we have been wired to robotically say "Dem bad, GOP good." I would not say that that word was appropriate no matter who said it. And I find it hard to imagine that many here would verbalize that it was appropriate should Hillary or Obama been recorded saying it.

[MissBrattified]

It's just an extension of how we have been wired to robotically say "Dem bad, GOP good." I would not say that that word was appropriate no matter who said it. And I find it hard to imagine that many here would verbalize that it was appropriate should Hillary or Obama been recorded saying it.

I agree. I don't care whether or not they use the word, but I still think it's an inappropriate word to use. Am I contradicting myself? :coffee2

[OP_Carl]

I certainly would not want a candidate who was not successful in their endeavors, but I also prefer those who have attained the wealth themselves or at least I would give it a bit more credence.

Of course.


Completely off topic, but I sure have enjoyed reading your writings. You are consistent, you challenge without giving offense, you have a sense of humor, and you value clarity and truth. :tiphat

Sometimes it isn't easy conveying thoughts, feelings, and ideas through the cool medium of the printed word, but you have an above-average ability to do so and avoid the common pitfalls.

You're my kind of guy. :thumbsup

(now you have to figure out what that means) :runhills

[TRFrance]

I think I almost prefer wealthy candidates, as their wealth demonstrates a proficiency at MANAGING something . . .

Cindy McCain's parents started their business with $10,000 and now, years later, the business is believed to be worth up to $100 million. I don't envy the rich. I actually admire people who work hard and become prosperous.

Its a shame that class envy has become standard now within the Democratic party.

Besides, the Kennedy family have been hardcore Democrats for ever.. and their family is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. How come nobody ever claims that the Kennedys' wealth makes them "out of touch with the average American" ? How come they never made that argument with Theresa Heinz Kerry (worth $750 million), when John Kerry was running in 2004?

I guess wealth is only an issue if you're a rich Republican, not a rich Democrat. The hypocrisy is amazing, but not surprising I guess.

[tstew]

Of course.


Completely off topic, but I sure have enjoyed reading your writings. You are consistent, you challenge without giving offense, you have a sense of humor, and you value clarity and truth. :tiphat

Sometimes it isn't easy conveying thoughts, feelings, and ideas through the cool medium of the printed word, but you have an above-average ability to do so and avoid the common pitfalls.

You're my kind of guy. :thumbsup

(now you have to figure out what that means) :runhills

Well, thank you sir. I'm just at a place in life where I've decided to stand up for my principles and not just the traditional trappings. I am seeing an increasing disconnect in my generation from many of the mantras that we grew up with and it is apparent in church, politics, and society in general.

I am firmly convinced that many principles have been reduced to rhetoric and purely symbolic stances and that does not resonate with the mindset that we have. The hot-button issues that used to get people all riled up do not do so for many of us because we have seen those button pushed our entire lives...and it appears that whatever those buttons were supposed to turn on is broken.

[Blsdbeyondmsure]

I certainly would not want a candidate who was not successful in their endeavors, but I also prefer those who have attained the wealth themselves or at least I would give it a bit more credence.

I agree.

[Pressing-On]

Cindy McCain's parents started their business with $10,000 and now, years later, the business is believed to be worth up to $100 million. I don't envy the rich. I actually admire people who work hard and become prosperous.

Its a shame that class envy has become standard now within the Democratic party.

Besides, the Kennedy family have been hardcore Democrats for ever.. and their family is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. How come nobody ever claims that the Kennedys' wealth makes them "out of touch with the average American" ? How come they never made that argument with Theresa Heinz Kerry (worth $750 million), when John Kerry was running in 2004?

I guess wealth is only an issue if you're a rich Republican, not a rich Democrat. The hypocrisy is amazing, but not surprising I guess.

Right! IMO, it's a total Socialist mentality to look down on American Capitalism.

[TRFrance]

I certainly would not want a candidate who was not successful in their endeavors, but I also prefer those who have attained the wealth themselves or at least I would give it a bit more credence.
TStew... you're killing me here.

I guess based on that rationale, no one in the Kennedy family should bother running for office?:snapout

(Think it through,brother.)

[tstew]

Cindy McCain's parents started their business with $10,000 and now, years later, the business is believed to be worth up to $100 million. I don't envy the rich. I actually admire people who work hard and become prosperous.

Its a shame that class envy has become standard now within the Democratic party.

Besides, the Kennedy family have been hardcore Democrats for ever.. and their family is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. How come nobody ever claims that the Kennedys' wealth makes them "out of touch with the average American" ? How come they never made that argument with Theresa Heinz Kerry (worth $750 million), when John Kerry was running in 2004?

I guess wealth is only an issue if you're a rich Republican, not a rich Democrat. The hypocrisy is amazing, but not surprising I guess.

TR, once again you have to break the Republican vs. Democrat box when talking to me. What I said was not partisan, it was not about any one politician or party. It was simply about the value of having a wealthy candidate. I agreed that I would want any candidate to have proven himself or herself personally successful, but that I would also take into consideration if they had attained the wealth themselves.

By my estimation, that would amount to more of an endorsement of Mitt Romney than any Democrat candidate.

You see hypocrisy because you are not taking my black and white words at face value and are interjecting a partisan undertow. By definition of what I said, I do in fact place more credence on Mitt Romney's financial success than I do of Kerry's or McCain's.

I don't see where you get class envy out of anything I said...you are seeing what you want to see.

[Blsdbeyondmsure]

Well, thank you sir. I'm just at a place in life where I've decided to stand up for my principles and not just the traditional trappings. I am seeing an increasing disconnect in my generation from many of the mantras that we grew up with and it is apparent in church, politics, and society in general.

I am firmly convinced that many principles have been reduced to rhetoric and purely symbolic stances and that does not resonate with the mindset that we have. The hot-button issues that used to get people all riled up do not do so for many of us because we have seen those button pushed our entire lives...and it appears that whatever those buttons were supposed to turn on is broken.

I agree with your sentiment. What I've come to realize is that the government just doesn't get much accomplished. So with that knowledge, I vote for ideals. If there is a chance that something is accomplished or a decision has to be made or the nation is in a crisis, I want my government to be managed by people who support my ideals.

The one decision that is made is supreme court nominees. The stakes are way to high to sit out the election as a protest or to vote for a non-viable 3rd party candidate. It should be important to every American that we don't have judges that legislate from the bench. It goes against the very principles of our constitution.

The other thing government seems able to accomplish is raising & cutting taxes. In this case I want the person in office who is least likely to raise my taxes.

[TRFrance]

TR, once again you have to break the Republican vs. Democrat box when talking to me. What I said was not partisan, it was not about any one politician or party. It was simply about the value of having a wealthy candidate. I agreed that I would want any candidate to have proven himself or herself personally successful, but that I would also take into consideration if they had attained the wealth themselves.

By my estimation, that would amount to more of an endorsement of Mitt Romney than any Democrat candidate.

You see hypocrisy because you are not taking my black and white words at face value and are interjecting a partisan undertow. By definition of what I said, I do in fact place more credence on Mitt Romney's financial success than I do of Kerry's or McCain's.

I don't see where you get class envy out of anything I said...you are seeing what you want to see.
???
You're a little off right now, bro.
The post you just quoted from, and responded to, was one I made in response to what OP said, not to what you said.

As you can see, I quoted his post and was responding directly to it

(At that point, I hadn't even read what you may have said on the matter. I was simply adding my thoughts to what I saw in his post.)

[tstew]

???
You're a little off right now, bro.
The post you just quoted from, and responded to, was one I made in response to what OP said, not to what you said.

As you can see, I quoted his post and was responding directly to it

(I hadnt even read what you may have said on the matter. I was simply adding my thoughts to what I saw in his post.)

Okay, I misread that. It is Saturday so I have not had my customary coffee. I thought is was in response to what I had said about how I am not as impressed by wealth that the candidate had not obtained themselves. I apologize bro.

:aaa

[TRFrance]

Okay, I misread that. It is Saturday so I have not had my customary coffee. I thought is was in response to what I had said about how I am not as impressed by wealth that the candidate had not obtained themselves. I apologize bro.

:aaa

No probs, bro.
That happens in forum-land from time to time.

[tstew]

No probs, bro.
That happens in forum-land from time to time.

I'm just so accustomed to you disagreeing with what I say, that everytime I see your scrolls I figure it's time to rebut. It's Pavlovic. :ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny



j/k

[TRFrance]

I'm just so accustomed to you disagreeing with what I say, that everytime I see your scrolls I figure it's time to rebut. It's Pavlovic. :ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

j/k
I've gotten into your head like that, bro?
Hee hee hee.
:evilglee


Bwah-ha-ha-ha-haaaaah!!

[tstew]

I've gotten into your head like that, bro?
Hee hee hee.
:evilglee

I'm just gonna regroup and I'll be back better than ever.

[TRFrance]

I'm just gonna regroup and I'll be back better than ever.

OK
And I'll try to keep the "partisanship" to a minimum while you're gone. :p

Eat those Wheaties, baby. Holler back later.

[SOUNWORTHY]

If I get it, it's perfectly OK to use the F word as long as one is a senator or running for President???

Your all so full of it, it's not even funny, lets be real if someone came on here using such a word would be banned, spoke badly of.

Second, to say it's ok because after all McCain was not being interviewed. If anything this should raised a red flag. This would indicated McCain not being himself while in public, he a fake! Pretending to be something he not! No wonder this nation in such a mess, maybe it be good if Christians were not allowed to vote!

I hope Obama doesn't use that word whle he approves killing babies and marrying someone of the same sex. If he did; that would make baby killing and same sex marriages bad. Otherwise I guess it's acceptable to you Libs.

[OP_Carl]

I hope Obama doesn't use that word whle he approves killing babies and marrying someone of the same sex. If he did; that would make baby killing and same sex marriages bad. Otherwise I guess it's acceptable to you Libs.

Stop that! :naughty

You know that using reason and logic when conversing with leftists is partisan, mean-spirited, and unfair! :sad

[Esther]

I think I proved my point!!! It's ok to use cuss words as long as your running for office! But not an average Joe. Please!!!!

10 Things You Should Know About McCain (but probably don’t)

Posted on April 5, 2008 by Chris Guy

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1

2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain “will make Cheney look like Gandhi.”2

3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3

4. McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.”4

5. The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill.5

6. He’s one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a “second job” and skip their vacations.6

McCain7. Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.”7

8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8

9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his “spiritual guide,” Rod Parsley, believes America’s founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a “false religion.” McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church “the Antichrist” and a “false cult.”9

10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

John McCain is not who the Washington press corps make him out to be. Please help get the word out.

As to the remark about use

HT do you have a problem with all 10 or just some of them?

[SOUNWORTHY]

HT just gave me 10 more reasond to vote for McCain.:tease Not that I needed them.

[TRFrance]

HT just gave me 10 more reasons to vote for McCain.:tease Not that I needed them.

Happy Town really hasn't been living up to his name lately.

Maybe we should start calling him UNhappy Town.

[Sam]

John McCain used the "f" word!!!!!

Yawn,
so what?

[HappyTown]

I'm sorry, I still don't get it. They released the entire 1040, just not the supporting schedules. If Theresa Heinz-Kerry only released 2 pages then Cindy McCain has released the same info as Theresa. I thought the whole point of the first article you posted was that people wanted to know how much capital gains income Cindy had so they could calculate how much she has saved relative to the Bush tax cuts.

Now it seems you're upset that she makes her money from a beer distributorship. I'm not quite understanding your point.

However, to clarify... I'm not in anyway impacted by the fact that Cindy's wealth comes from a beer distributorship. I would feel the same way if the Obama's were wealthy due to a beer distributorship. It just isn't a hot button topic for me. I'm also not jealous of their wealth, as I wasn't upset or jealous over the fact that Theresa Heinz-Kerry was the wealthy one in the Kerry's relationship & used her wealth to prop up his campaign at various times. Again not a issue that would impact my voting decision. AND.... I don't care if they saved a bundle of money from the Bush tax cuts. See I believe that everyone's money belongs to them first & foremost, not the government so the less everyone gives to the government the better.

The thing I do find a bit more interesting is that Michelle Obama's salary at the Univ of Chicago increased for $121K to $316K in one year from 2004 to 2005. Which happened to coincide with when Barak became a senator. That's a raise of $195K. Now, I've worked in corporate America for a long time in a position where I know everyone's salaries. Trust me, those kind of raises don't happen under any scenario.

Again, if I was a supporter of democratic ideals this most likely wouldn't influence my voting decision. However, if I were you I wouldn't try to point all your fingers about personal income & benefiting from your spouse's position in only John & Cindy McCain's direction.

I don't care how much money they have, not issues for me!

I'd like to know what the McCain's are hiding under Cindy's Tax... Who else have they funded???? How much???? Who's votes been bought???? Yes I like to know. The beer things probably the lest of what's really going on.

If everything is on the ups, the McCain's should not mind sharing all of the info!

[HappyTown]

I hope Obama doesn't use that word whle he approves killing babies and marrying someone of the same sex. If he did; that would make baby killing and same sex marriages bad. Otherwise I guess it's acceptable to you Libs.

I'm not a lib! Nor do I support Obama! Nor do I support McCain!!!! so lets clear that up!!!

I'm not so blindly lead to believe McCain going to do away with Abortion or Same SEX! He been in WA for what 22 years now??? HE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THE KILLINGS OF UNBORN,OR SAME SEX!!! And he won't once he gets in, it will be business as usually!

[HappyTown]

HT do you have a problem with all 10 or just some of them?

All but two of them!

[ronharvey]

In a word NIXON!

Honey just dripped off his mouth!
Ron

You know, people who use words like that will just ruin the world!

[Ferd]

I don't care how much money they have, not issues for me!

I'd like to know what the McCain's are hiding under Cindy's Tax... Who else have they funded???? How much???? Who's votes been bought???? Yes I like to know. The beer things probably the lest of what's really going on.

If everything is on the ups, the McCain's should not mind sharing all of the info!

Let me interprit this for everybody.


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There. I think everybody understands Happy Pill

[SOUNWORTHY]

All but two of them!

Which two. Hero's like McCain gives you the freedom of speech so don't knock them.

[HappyTown]

Let me interprit this for everybody.


aslketjmawolitjvwaiopeurnoibhT
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as;oeidfufrv .leivawmjsrgboui oiucrmoastronusadtlny oipnyzserohi huhyj iry 7r6ihjopk jyop e65 o 8r6 rg67 jyiop u e65 7 hjsejopyizvs.

There. I think everybody understands Happy Pill

How your son doing this day???? Better I hope?

[Esther]

All but two of them!

Which two do you agree with?

[TRFrance]

I'm not a lib! Nor do I support Obama! Nor do I support McCain!!!! so lets clear that up!!!

I'm not so blindly lead to believe McCain going to do away with Abortion or Same SEX! He been in WA for what 22 years now??? HE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THE KILLINGS OF UNBORN,OR SAME SEX!!! And he won't once he gets in, it will be business as usually!

Well, don't try to convince us you're impartial, because you're clearly NOT.

From what I've observed, All you've done around here is repeatedly attack McCain, and not Obama. Your criticism has been very one-sided, and that is very obvious.

[Sam]

In my opinion, all the talk about ending abortion or overturning Roe v. Wade is a carrot the Republicans have been dangling in front of us for years now.

Planned Parenthood is based on eugenics (Hitler was a hero) to slow the development of "undesirables" (Irish, Eastern Europeans, Roman Catholics, Slavic people, African Americans) among us. They were just breeding too rapidly. Now abortion is a great form of birth (population) control. Also, the abortion industry is bringing in big bucks to lots of folks.

[Jekyll]

How your son doing this day???? Better I hope?

This is an ignorant, yellow livered, spineless, moronic post worthy of a two-year old.

Grow up.

[HappyTown]

This is an ignorant, yellow livered, spineless, moronic post worthy of a two-year old.

Grow up.

Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
Let me interprit this for everybody.


aslketjmawolitjvwaiopeurnoibhT
V OILIKWEASVM AOISDLIJ askasverkljasrdkjzxvd h fm;oiwdfomv Z aseoimcsan .afe asdf sdf df adrhdsf yb dsaset asdrasvv vwver asrt asbtvxcjk kjbjk hbt bnoijgf,lfu o ommxlkgjsdlkgjdlk lmkjzxlmdkgjsfugvjseiork'rstiop hg v pomiugespogbtuvxfjgjk iohzxdfaenpvt ouizsetoimve.

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as;oeidfufrv .leivawmjsrgboui oiucrmoastronusadtlny oipnyzserohi huhyj iry 7r6ihjopk jyop e65 o 8r6 rg67 jyiop u e65 7 hjsejopyizvs.

There. I think everybody understands Happy Pill

Excuse me! But unlike Fred who post who was worthy of a two year! I meant well!!!!! So find another fish to fry!

[HappyTown]

In my opinion, all the talk about ending abortion or overturning Roe v. Wade is a carrot the Republicans have been dangling in front of us for years now.

Planned Parenthood is based on eugenics (Hitler was a hero) to slow the development of "undesirables" (Irish, Eastern Europeans, Roman Catholics, Slavic people, African Americans) among us. They were just breeding too rapidly. Now abortion is a great form of birth (population) control. Also, the abortion industry is bringing in big bucks to lots of folks.


Agree!

[tv1a]

In the context McCain used the word, yes. It isn't like he says the f-word as much as Obama says "change". Taken in context of the story, it is a non-issue with me.Am I reading this right?

You think it was &quot;appropriate&quot; for him to use the F word?

[TRFrance]

I guess nothing I see on this forum should surprise me any more.

[HappyTown]

I guess nothing I see on this forum should surprise me any more.

Yep, you heard it here, it's ok to use swear words!!!!

I'll give Bush this much, at least he didn't use swear words when he got heated up, or disagree with someone, or was corner!!!


The president represent "WE" the people what "WE" stand for as a nation, at this point we are viewed as warmonger's. I don't want add another to the list!!!!



I'm not voting!

[Michael Phelps]

Yep, you heard it here, it's ok to use swear words!!!!

I'll give Bush this much, at least he didn't use swear words when he got heated up, or disagree with someone, or was corner!!!


The president represent "WE" the people what "WE" stand for as a nation, at this point we are viewed as warmonger's. I don't want add another to the list!!!!



I'm not voting!

You don't know if he used them or not. It's pure supposition. In order to really know someone, you need to be with them 24 hours a day.

I respect your political views, and won't try to convince you. Just don't try to convince us.

[Cindy]

HappyTown, Bush isn't running for office so maybe we can just stick to the two candidates that are. And since you are not voting, you will get what you pay for. Either Obama or McCain.

[rgcraig]

Yep, you heard it here, it's ok to use swear words!!!!

I'll give Bush this much, at least he didn't use swear words when he got heated up, or disagree with someone, or was corner!!!


The president represent "WE" the people what "WE" stand for as a nation, at this point we are viewed as warmonger's. I don't want add another to the list!!!!



I'm not voting!

Not that it matters, but he does.

Cussing's no stranger to the Bush White House

Turns out President Bush has quite the mouth, following in a rich tradition of cussing presidents. "He uses the 'F' word as an adjective, a verb, and a noun," says one adviser. Ditto for the "S" word. But not often in anger. "It's more conversational," adds the insider, "like how guys talk." In a White House that prides itself on self-control, Bush doesn't swear much in the Oval Office and never in front of his wife or new acquaintances. "It's less in the Oval than other places.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/040712/12whisplead.htm

Bush caught on tape swearing about Syria
Microphone also picks up other comments — from Mideast to Diet Coke

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13901209

[Michael Phelps]

Not that it matters, but he does.

Cussing's no stranger to the Bush White House

Turns out President Bush has quite the mouth, following in a rich tradition of cussing presidents. "He uses the 'F' word as an adjective, a verb, and a noun," says one adviser. Ditto for the "S" word. But not often in anger. "It's more conversational," adds the insider, "like how guys talk." In a White House that prides itself on self-control, Bush doesn't swear much in the Oval Office and never in front of his wife or new acquaintances. "It's less in the Oval than other places.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/040712/12whisplead.htm

Bush caught on tape swearing about Syria
Microphone also picks up other comments — from Mideast to Diet Coke

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13901209

Ooops, confused by the facts.

[SOUNWORTHY]

HT, if you aren't voting then don't complain about what happens.

[Michael Phelps]

HT, if you aren't voting then don't complain about what happens.

Bingo.

[rgcraig]

HT, if you aren't voting then don't complain about what happens.

....and stop campaigning for Obama and knocking McCain if you aren't even going to vote!

[tv1a]

US Politicians who used the f-bomb per wikipedia and sources cited so it is public record...


In late 2003, US presidential candidate Senator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate) John Kerry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry) used the word ........ in an interview with Rolling Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone). Referring to his vote in favor of the resolution authorizing President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) to use military force in Iraq, Senator John Kerry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry) stated, "I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Dean) to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything'? Sure. Did I expect George Bush to ______ it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/........#cite_note-15)
In June 2004, U.S. Vice President (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States) Dick Cheney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney) told Senator Patrick Leahy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Leahy) to either "____ off" or "go ________ yourself" during an exchange on the floor of the Senate,[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/........#cite_note-16) to which Patrick Leahy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Leahy) cried foul.
On January 31, 2007, former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer) angrily retorted to Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tedisco), "Listen, I'm a ______ng steamroller, and I'll roll over you and anybody else." According to The New York Post, Spitzer confirmed the exchange the following day.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/........#cite_note-19)

[tv1a]

Thoughts about various levels of profanity... Source Cited... Content heavily edited... Examples are on wkipedia...
Which catagory do you think McCain's comments fall under?


Steven Pinker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Pinker)'s book The Stuff of Thought (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stuff_of_Thought) breaks profanity down into five categories:

Dysphemistic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysphemism) swearing - Exact opposite of euphemism. Forces listener to think about negative matter. Using the wrong euphemism has a dysphemistic effect.

Abusive swearing - for abuse or intimidation or insulting of others

Idiomatic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom) swearing - swearing without really referring to the matter.. just using the words to arouse interest, to show off, and express to peers that the setting is informal.

Emphatic swearing - to emphasise something with swearing.

Cathartic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis) swearing - when something bad happens like coffee spilling, people curse. One evolutionary theory asserts it is meant to tell the audience that you're undergoing a negative emotion.

[tv1a]

My two recent posts shows:

1. Swearing happens with democrats and republicans.
2. Swearing is used for different reasons.

I haven't even asked who decides what constitutes as a swear word?

The KJVl term for release of bodily fluid is considered a swear word today, when for centuries, it was a common everyday word.


Care to explain that one? Did we get some legalists on the Webster-Miriam Dictionary board? Or if its in the Bible it is okay to say?

[Felicity]

Nixon's language was atrocious!

I think these guys are under so much pressure all the time that 'language' is some kind of release valve for some of that.

[tv1a]

Wasn't Nixon a Quaker?

Nixon's language was atrocious!

I think these guys are under so much pressure all the time that 'language' is some kind of release valve for some of that.

[HeavenlyOne]

Happy Town really hasn't been living up to his name lately.

Maybe we should start calling him UNhappy Town.

Yes, we definitely know what's implied....

...which is why I find that term very inappropriate for Christians to use.

So maybe instead of worrying about McCain's choice of words, he might want to pay attention to his own.

HappyTown is female. ;)

[HappyTown]

You don't know if he used them or not. It's pure supposition. In order to really know someone, you need to be with them 24 hours a day.

I respect your political views, and won't try to convince you. Just don't try to convince us.

Try youtube, just one of many site out there with McCain temper going off... Someday, maybe a real godly person will be voted in, one who does care about the people!

[HappyTown]

HappyTown, Bush isn't running for office so maybe we can just stick to the two candidates that are. And since you are not voting, you will get what you pay for. Either Obama or McCain.

I'll vote, not for McCain or Obama, they are both evil!

[Michael Phelps]

I'll vote, not for McCain or Obama, they are both evil!

Hahahaha, please define "evil".:snapout

[rgcraig]

Try youtube, just one of many site out there with McCain temper going off... Someday, maybe a real godly person will be voted in, one who does care about the people!

So, you can only care about people if you don't cuss?

[Sandra]

Oh I think I'll change my vote now!


...............................J/K :D:D:D

lol.. this morning I was singing at a church in maryland.. the preachers message was " What in HELL do you want?" then he said " theres not one DAMNED thing in hell I want. He said everything in hell is damned!!

[Pressing-On]

Try youtube, just one of many site out there with McCain temper going off... Someday, maybe a real godly person will be voted in, one who does care about the people!
HT,
Did you listen to the whole 8 min clip I am going to reference below? Yes, a small bit of heat in the discussion. McCain didn't lose his temper. Losing your temper is yelling, grabbing someone by the collar or throwing things. The POW/MIA issue was a passionate issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg&feature=related

I notice on another YouTube clip someone references the exchange, above, when he picks up a paper quoting the women and "inserted" a "bleep" as though he said the "F" word. If you didn't watch the actual exchange you could have believed it was true, but it wasn't.

Here, again, the person titles this clip as McCain becoming angry He was not angry but pointed toward the questioner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0cNM3-mL_0&feature=related

Here a reporter is bringing up an old "non-issue" regarding Kerry and McCain is, again, being straight and pointed that he will not allow her to try and subvert his campaign by making up something he didn't say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY&feature=related

All of these clip title are erroneous misrepresentation. Again, did you listen or just read the titles?

[Pressing-On]

Here's another erroneous clip saying that McCain is angry about health care. He isn't even angry in this clip. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4HYMn9olII&feature=related

[tstew]

Here's another erroneous clip saying that McCain is angry about health care. He isn't even angry in this clip. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4HYMn9olII&feature=related

If anyone said he was angry on that clip, they're either crazy or so partisan that they see what they want to see. I'm actually surprised that he didn't get upset at how old Georgie kept interupting him and trying to talk over his answers.

[tstew]

HT,
Did you listen to the whole 8 min clip I am going to reference below? Yes, a small bit of heat in the discussion. McCain didn't lose his temper. Losing your temper is yelling, grabbing someone by the collar or throwing things. The POW/MIA issue was a passionate issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg&feature=related

I notice on another YouTube clip someone references the exchange when he picks up a paper quoting the women and "inserted" a "bleep" as though he said the "F" word. If you didn't watch the actual exchange you could have believed it was true, but it wasn't.

Here, again, the person titles this clip as McCain becoming angry He was not angry but pointed toward the questioner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0cNM3-mL_0&feature=related

Here a reporter is bringing up an old "non-issue" regarding Kerry and McCain is, again, being straight and pointed that he will not allow her to try and subvert his campaign by making up something he didn't say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2D_mhqDRBY&feature=related

All of these clip title are erroneous misrepresentation. Again, did you listen or just read the titles?

Okay, I just watched the shorter two clips and he did seem to be a litlle hot under the collar. He didn't lose his temper by any stretch, but it was probably not the proper Presidential decorum.

[Pressing-On]

Okay, I just watched the shorter two clips and he did seem to be a litlle hot under the collar. He didn't lose his temper by any stretch, but it was probably not the proper Presidential decorum.

I thought he handled the reporter just fine because she was not going to drop the issue. He couldn't walk away because they are on a plane. lol

I haven't viewed one clip where he is reportedly losing his temper. Not saying he hasn't, but goodness, politics is just a heated subject anyway. lol As is religion.

I think I get angrier on religious debates. That's why you will see me on the political threads the most. :whistle

[tstew]

I thought he handled the reporter just fine because she was not going to drop the issue. He couldn't walk away because they are on a plane. lol

I haven't viewed one clip where he is reportedly losing his temper. Not saying he hasn't, but goodness, politics is just a heated subject anyway. lol As is religion.

I think I get angrier on religious debates. That's why you will see me on the political threads the most. :whistle

Yeah, he certainly didn't lose his temper in the three clips I just watched. A lot of times I guess people just see what they want to see...or what someone else told them they should be seeing. With the reporter he didn't lose his temper but you could see that she was getting to him. I'm sure that there are clips like that of every President or politician though.

[Pressing-On]

Yeah, he certainly didn't lose his temper in the three clips I just watched. A lot of times I guess people just see what they want to see...or what someone else told them they should be seeing. With the reporter he didn't lose his temper but you could see that she was getting to him. I'm sure that there are clips like that of every President or politician though.

Right. Thanks for "watching" the clips and not just "reading" the titles. lol I love the POW/MIA clip the best! lol

Now I can go to bed. All is well in America. :D

[tstew]

Right. Thanks for "watching" the clips and not just "reading" the titles. lol I love the POW/MIA clip the best! lol

Now I can go to bed. All is well in America. :D

Take care, sleep well.

[Jeremy]

I know his comments will probably offend and surprise a lot of people but I have no issue with it. If you are surprised he swears you're being excessively naive.

I actually fully endorsed G.W. calling that one reporter an A hole during the '00 elections. Seemed about right to me.

As for this particular story, you have to laugh your head off at the way they have the comment quoted.

On immigration reform:
F you! I know more about this than anyone in this room.

As if that is his official stance on the subject! Lol.

Plus, without hearing it, I would guess it was stated more like "F you, I know more about this than anyone in the room." That's how it would be used in conversation. F you! with an exclamation point just makes it seem like a temper issue.

[tstew]

I know his comments will probably offend and surprise a lot of people but I have no issue with it. If you are surprised he swears you're being excessively naive.

I actually fully endorsed G.W. calling that one reporter an A hole during the '00 elections. Seemed about right to me.

As for this particular story, you have to laugh your head off at the way they have the comment quoted.

On immigration reform:
F you! I know more about this than anyone in this room.

As if that is his official stance on the subject! Lol.

Plus, without hearing it, I would guess it was stated more like "F you, I know more about this than anyone in the room." That's how it would be used in conversation. F you! with an exclamation point just makes it seem like a temper issue.

I don't think that it is a temper issue, but it does lack Presidential decorum in my opinion.

[Pressing-On]

I don't think that it is a temper issue, but it does lack Presidential decorum in my opinion.

Right. I agree, not a temper issue.

[SOUNWORTHY]

I'll vote, not for McCain or Obama, they are both evil!


HT, sorry I told you to shut up the other day. Please forgive me.

There have been many evil men as you call them who gave their lives on the battlefields fighting for your freedoms. Who else is going to do it, many Apostolices and other Christians in many cases have been contentious objectors , McCain is a sinner but I wouldn't say he is evil. I carry a card that says Service connected disability and I wasn't always a first class Christian while earning that card.:aaa McCain and Palin may be America's last chance. By not voting for McCain and Palin you are voting for Obama and he is more than a sinner, his ideas are EVIL!! If you can't vote for McCain at least vote for Sarah.:whistle

[HappyTown]

HT, sorry I told you to shut up the other day. Please forgive me.

No problem...;)

There have been many evil men as you call them who gave their lives on the battlefields fighting for your freedoms. Who else is going to do it, many Apostolices and other Christians in many cases have been contentious objectors , McCain is a sinner but I wouldn't say he is evil. I carry a card that says Service connected disability and I wasn't always a first class Christian while earning that card.:aaa McCain and Palin may be America's last chance. By not voting for McCain and Palin you are voting for Obama and he is more than a sinner, his ideas are EVIL!! If you can't vote for McCain at least vote for Sarah.:whistle

Lol> I can be bought $$$$....;)