Do I still vote for McCain after this?

[ReddMann24]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

[Pressing-On]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

Are you a socialist? If not, then let her spend whatever she wants. I'm still checking, but I think the clothes were on loan from the designer.

[Ferd]

Lets start with Pressings question. Are you a socialist? why do you care what she spent on a dress? IT IS HER MONEY.....


then lets move on to something that adds a bit of balance.

http://philanthropy.com/news/updates/4437/john-mccain-discloses-data-on-his-charity-giving


here is some good info on John McCain's giving to charities. 26% of his income last year. 18% the year before.

100% of his book royalties.

toltal in the last 10 years exceeds $1.8M

Also, John McCain didnt wear a dress worth 300k... and Cindy isnt running for president.....


then let me ask you this question. did the source you got that stupid bit of information from, provide the information about how much time and money Cindy McCain gives to charity? No perspective first lady in living memory has done more

[Pressing-On]

Lets start with Pressings question. Are you a socialist? why do you care what she spent on a dress? IT IS HER MONEY.....


then lets move on to something that adds a bit of balance.

http://philanthropy.com/news/updates/4437/john-mccain-discloses-data-on-his-charity-giving


here is some good info on John McCain's giving to charities. 26% of his income last year. 18% the year before.

100% of his book royalties.

toltal in the last 10 years exceeds $1.8M

Also, John McCain didnt wear a dress worth 300k... and Cindy isnt running for president.....


then let me ask you this question. did the source you got that stupid bit of information from, provide the information about how much time and money Cindy McCain gives to charity? No perspective first lady in living memory has done more
The information is actually posted at Vanity Fair and Laura Bush's dress cost more. LOL!

Viva La American Capitalism

[rgcraig]

Still pretty sure those outfits are "on loan" from the designers.

[HeavenlyOne]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

It's nothing different than what you see at a General Conference on any given year.....

:tease

[Ferd]

Still pretty sure those outfits are "on loan" from the designers.

when substance fails....


hey, this HAD to happen! MO took it on the chin for the brastrap flap!

the media had to fix it by castigating Cindy... but CM looked elegant and classy so the fall back position for all communists is "It cost too much"


Viv le Class Warfare!

[MissBrattified]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

It wasn't the dress that cost so much--it was the diamond earrings. :)

"ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 5 (UPI) -- Potential U.S. first lady Cindy McCain sported about $300,000 in designer clothes and accessories at one of the GOP convention sessions, fashion experts said.

Vanity Fair totaled up the duds McCain wore during Tuesday's session of the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., and found the Oscar de la Renta frock McCain wore was $3,000; the Chanel watch, $4,500; shoes, $600, and a four-strand pearl necklace, between $11,000 and $25,000, the New York Daily News reported Friday.

Rounding out the ensemble were 3-carat diamond earrings, a mere $280,000. The newspaper said the jewelry estimates were based on the assumption that the gems were, ah, real.

First lady Laura Bush, by comparison, wore an outfit that night estimated to cost between $3,000 and $4,000, the newspaper reported."

Source (http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/09/05/An_RNC_outfit_for_Cindy_McCain_300000/UPI-26471220660851)

[MissBrattified]

Still pretty sure those outfits are "on loan" from the designers.

Right. It's a very common practice for designers and jewelers to loan out dresses and accessories to celebrities and political figures.

The articles I read stated an estimate of what the items were worth. Not necessarily what CM spent on them, or what they actually cost.

[rgcraig]

Right. It's a very common practice for designers and jewelers to loan out dresses and accessories to celebrities and political figures.

The articles I read stated an estimate of what the items were worth. Not necessarily what CM spent on them, or what they actually cost.

Exactly!

[Pressing-On]

Right. It's a very common practice for designers and jewelers to loan out dresses and accessories to celebrities and political figures.

The articles I read stated an estimate of what the items were worth. Not necessarily what CM spent on them, or what they actually cost.

Abigail,
I have searched everywhere trying to find out if the clothes and jewels were on loan. Have you run across anything? Not that it matters. I just want to know!!!! :ursofunny

[MissBrattified]

Abigail,
I have searched everywhere trying to find out if the clothes and jewels were on loan. Have you run across anything? Not that it matters. I just want to know!!!! :ursofunny

No, I can't find anything that says one way or the other. But even if it was HER dress, chances are it was a gift from the designer, if not a loan. Designers get a lot of good press from having their clothing worn by public figures.

Anyway, the first post presented the facts inaccurately. The dress was not the expensive part. It was the jewelry. :coffee2

And I read elsewhere that Michelle Obama's purple sheath dress (not worn at the convention) was $1500, which is only about half of the value of CM's dress.

[Ferd]

I hope she bought all of it and it wasnt a loan.

spending money is good for the economy.

[Pressing-On]

I hope she bought all of it and it wasnt a loan.

spending money is good for the economy.

Yea, Yea, Ferd is the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:bow :bow :bow :bow

[rgcraig]

I hope she bought all of it and it wasnt a loan.

spending money is good for the economy.

Well, I can agree with you on this one because I know that she's worth a fortune and that they both GIVE very generously.

The earrings could have been her mother's past down to her for all we know!

You have to remember their empire was built on a $10K loan.

[Pressing-On]

No, I can't find anything that says one way or the other. But even if it was HER dress, chances are it was a gift from the designer, if not a loan. Designers get a lot of good press from having their clothing worn by public figures.

Anyway, the first post presented the facts inaccurately. The dress was not the expensive part. It was the jewelry. :coffee2

And I read elsewhere that Michelle Obama's purple sheath dress (not worn at the convention) was $1500, which is only about half of the value of CM's dress.
Yes, the designers do get good coverage. I'm with Ferd, I hope she bought them. This socialist mentality has been around long enough.

[deacon blues]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

Let's see.....

I'm thinking I can't vote for Obama. No one who could sit in a pew for 20 years and listen to the hate filled diatribes of Jeremiah Wright and allow his daughters listen to such sermons and at first say, "I could not disown him any more than I could disown my own grandfather" then conveniently throw him under the bis a few weeks later for political expedience would be able to win my trust.

Voting for a rich American hero versus a rich Ivy League liberal politician is a no brainer for me. If this is all the Obama supporters can come up with as logic against McCain and a reason to vote Obama, they are going to loe in a landslide

NEWS to the CLASS WARRIORS: ALL POLITICIANS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL ARE RICH! These are the facts of life.

[MissBrattified]

I hope she bought all of it and it wasnt a loan.

spending money is good for the economy.

Frankly, I don't care one way or the other. My husband bought me a suit for Mother's day that was around $___.00 (Okay, a good chunk of change.)

1. It was only about 1/4 - 1/2 what a MAN pays for a good, tailored suit, and you do get what you pay for, and,

2. I'm sure if we compared incomes, he probably spent a greater percentage of our income than Cindy McCain spent of hers. Now, I'm a frugal shopper, and I don't normally spend money like that on myself, AND I only buy new clothes a couple of times a year, BUT the point is,

3. It's no one's business how we spend our money. Except God's, that is. :)



I really don't get the fascination with other folks' finances, either. As long as folks are charitable, and are good stewards, WHO CARES???????????????????

[SuzanneDeAZ]

The information is actually posted at Vanity Fair and Laura Bush's dress cost more. LOL!

Viva La American Capitalism


Are you saying Laura Bush's dress was 300K? If not her, who had a dress for that amount. I can not imagine any dress being 300,000. That is more than a home.:club

[MissBrattified]

Are you saying Laura Bush's dress was 300K? If not her, who had a dress for that amount. I can not imagine any dress being 300,000. That is more than a home.:club

No one's dress cost $300,000.00. :) Not Cindy's, not Laura's, and not Michelle Obama's.

[rgcraig]

Are you saying Laura Bush's dress was 300K? If not her, who had a dress for that amount. I can not imagine any dress being 300,000. That is more than a home.:club

No, Laura's suit was $2500 and Cindy's dress $3000 - - - it was Cindy's 3 carat diamonds that were the chunk of change and no one knows for sure if they were real, borrowed or passed down to her.

[rgcraig]

Laura Bush Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500 Stuart Weitzman heels: $325 Pearl stud earrings: $600$1,500 Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325

Cindy McCain Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000 Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500 Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000 Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000 -$25,000 Shoes, designer unknown: $600 Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100

[Pressing-On]

Laura Bush Oscar de la Renta suit: $2,500 Stuart Weitzman heels: $325 Pearl stud earrings: $600$1,500 Total: Between $3,425 and $4,325

Cindy McCain Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000 Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500 Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000 Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000 -$25,000 Shoes, designer unknown: $600 Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
I love Stuart Weitzman!!!!!

[SuzanneDeAZ]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

I could not believe any dress will be over $300,000 so I did some search. It is NOT the dress that is $300,000. The dress is only 1 percent of that, $3000. It is the diamonds that cost that much, something that she can wear over the years and leave to one of her daughters. The jewels is less than what they give to charity.

Cindy McCain
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600
Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100:tease

[Pressing-On]

Are you saying Laura Bush's dress was 300K? If not her, who had a dress for that amount. I can not imagine any dress being 300,000. That is more than a home.:club
Jealousy is also a part of socialism. :D

[tamor]

Jealousy is also a part of socialism. :D

:whistle:whistle

[TRFrance]

The woman is worth $100 million.
It was a very special occasion. So she got dressed up for the occasion. Big deal.

The jewelry was expensive, but it wasnt gaudy or ostentatious.

So his wife wore a pair of 3 Carat earrings. so what?
I dont see why this has any relevance as to John McCain's fitness to be president... or why someone would decide to vote for Obama because of this. This really is a non-issue .

[Pressing-On]

:whistle:whistle

Nice tune.

:whistle :whistle

Seriously, we don't realize what the media and our education has done to us in the way of socialist thinking. It's scary or, actually, just sad.

[rgcraig]

The woman is worth $100 million.
It was a very special occasion. She she got dressed up for the occasion. Big deal.

The jewelry was expensive, but it wasnt gaudy or ostentatious.

I dont see why this has any relevance as to John McCain's fitness to be president... or why someone would decide to vote for Obama because of this. This really is a non-issue .

Couldn't agree with you more!

I believe some are running scared and looking for anything.

[Pressing-On]

Couldn't agree with you more!

I believe some are running scared and looking for anything.

My husband said Cindy's yellow dress was UGLY!!! :ursofunny I was fixin' to buy one just like it!!!! lol

[Scott Hutchinson]

Vote for Mccain what other choice do you have ? How much money do big names in Pentecost spend on their GC attire ?

[rgcraig]

My husband said Cindy's yellow dress was UGLY!!! :ursofunny I was fixin' to buy one just like it!!!! lol

I can't decide if I liked it or not.

[SuzanneDeAZ]

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I dont see why this has any relevance as to John McCain's fitness to be president... or why someone would decide to vote for Obama because of this. This really is a non-issue .


I totally agree. It should be a non issue. so lame to base one's vote on that. Reminds me of a time in which someone anointed Jesus with an oil that took a whole years worth of salary saying how that could have been given to the poor. Jesus rebuked those who critized the woman for her choice. If Cindy has over 100 million and gives over 1 million a year to charity who are we to judge her for having some diamonds. Sounds like jealousy. :snapout

[MissBrattified]

Hmmmm...the yellow dress...I like the style, but the color I'm not sure about. I'm not even sure it was a flattering color for CM.

But the green suit: *swoon*

[SuzanneDeAZ]

Vote for Mccain what other choice do you have ? How much money do big names in Pentecost spend on their GC attire ?


What is GC attire?

[tamor]

My husband said Cindy's yellow dress was UGLY!!! :ursofunny I was fixin' to buy one just like it!!!! lol

The yellow one was ugly and if you buy one, you'll look like a Big Bird!!! :ursofunny

[MissBrattified]

ReddMann, are you going to comment anymore on your thread?

[ReddMann24]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

First off I said the outfit totaled $317,100 not just the dress sorry for the confusion. Second no I am not a socialist I said I usally dont care ...I just dont approve of our budget bieng run by somone who thinks it is okay to pay that much for anything you wear. no its not McCain's dress but he still approves of it ....if it was a gift or on loan that will make a difference in my mind. Third I have never been to a G.C. do they really wear $280,000 earrings and $4500 watches with a $3000 dress? and at last I never said I support obama I have supported McCain all along but this causes me to question that support repeat I AM NOT A OBAMAMANIAC so calm down ...and thanx for the input. If my info was wrong I appologize

[Pressing-On]

I can't decide if I liked it or not.

I loved it, but I can't do the upturned collar thing. lol

[Pressing-On]

The yellow one was ugly and if you buy one, you'll look like a Big Bird!!! :ursofunny

Chirp, chirp, chirp....


:ursofunny:ursofunny

[Scott Hutchinson]

What is GC attire?

General conference attire.Talk about costly arrary :ursofunny.
Welcome to AFF, Sister DEAZ.

[MissBrattified]

First off I said the outfit totaled $317,100 not just the dress sorry for the confusion. Second no I am not a socialist I said I usally dont care ...I just dont approve of our budget bieng run by somone who thinks it is okay to pay that much for anything you wear. no its not McCain's dress but he still approves of it ....if it was a gift or on loan that will make a difference in my mind. Third I have never been to a G.C. do they really wear $280,000 earrings and $4500 watches with a $3000 dress? and at last I never said I support obama I have supported McCain all along but this causes me to question that support repeat I AM NOT A OBAMAMANIAC so calm down ...and thanx for the input. If my info was wrong I appologize

Oh, there you are. :D

Well, I think jewelry is a different matter, because you tend to only buy one set of diamond earrings (or necklace, ring, whatever), and they last your whole life, and then (as someone else mentioned) they can be passed on. When you consider their income, it wouldn't be much different from my husband buying me a diamond ring for $2000.00. (Relatively speaking.)

I think the point is: No, it doesn't affect how I vote, because I am satisfied that they put their money where their mouths are, in reference to charity, and the rest they can spend however they please.

[Pressing-On]

General conference attire.Talk about costly arrary :ursofunny.
Welcome to AFF, Sister DEAZ.

They are homely if they dress down and damned if they dress up. Poor ladies.

[deacon blues]

My husband said Cindy's yellow dress was UGLY!!! :ursofunny I was fixin' to buy one just like it!!!! lol

You know, bananas and stop lights are like opposites.

A stop light is yellow and people tell you to "wait".
A banana is yellow and people tell you to "go ahead".

A stop light is green and people tell you to "go ahead".
A banana is green and people tell you "wait".

And if you have a banana that is red people say "Where in the heck did you get THAT banana?"

[Pressing-On]

You know, bananas and stop lights are like opposites.

A stop light is green and people tell you to "go ahead".
A banana is green and people tell you "wait".

A stop light is yellow and people tell you to "wait".
A banana is yellow and people tell you to "go ahead".

And if you have a banana that is red people say "Where in the heck did you get THAT banana?"

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

[Pressing-On]

My husband also said he always has noticed that Laura Bush wears A LOT of lipstick. :ursofunny

[ReddMann24]

Scotts right I have no other choice ...Im not a Class warrior there will always be servant class middle class and so on . I have no problem with that. I dont keep up with what donald trump or bill gates spending. looking back im sure this was an attempt to swing people away from McCain by the media... and I took the bait. but i still think its crazy to pay that much no matter how much you have ...maybe not a good enough reason to not vote for him .Im not jealous ..Im 6'0 400 pds Id look kinda silly in a yellow dress with alot bling.

[Pressing-On]

Scotts right I have no other choice ...Im not a Class warrior there will always be servant class middle class and so on . I have no problem with that. I dont keep up with what donald trump or bill gates spending. looking back im sure this was an attempt to swing people away from McCain by the media... and I took the bait. but i still think its crazy to pay that much no matter how much you have ...maybe not a good enough reason to not vote for him .Im not jealous ..Im 6'0 400 pds Id look kinda silly in a yellow dress with alot bling.

This subject of the ingraining socialist mentality seeping in for so long is a very entailing subject, at best!

[MissBrattified]

My husband also said he always has noticed that Laura Bush wears A LOT of lipstick. :ursofunny

Jeff HATES lipstick. (But not gloss--especially the flavored kinds :D) He made sure to tell me before we were married that if I ever wore lipstick he would NOT kiss me. lol

His mother and sisters do cake it on, so I understand, and I've never cared for lipstick either. All's well that ends well. :D

[SuzanneDeAZ]

Do you know buying diamonds can be an investment? One can wear them and sell them for more than they buy them or they can pass them down to a family member or donate them. So I do not see investing in a pair if earrings a bad thing. It could be a smart investment.

[ReddMann24]

Am i seriously alone no one thinks its going overboard to buy a $280,000 pair of earings?

[rgcraig]

Am i seriously alone no one thinks its going overboard to buy a $280,000 pair of earings?

If you were worth $100 Million would that be excessive?

They are only speculating that are worth that.

[tstew]

I don't think that how much her outfit cost is a reflection on how McCain would run the country obviously, but I do not think that it may have been the greatest move considering how you know that people would respond to it. I seem to remember John Edwards really got hammered for getting $400 haircuts or something...it may very well be some of the people out there who were hammering him that are now defending Cindy. Ya gotta love politics.

[gloryseeker]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

Spoken like someone with a true poverty mentality.... I assume you think that only a prior drug addict could help someone break a drug addiction or only former prostitutes, homosexuals, pornographers could help some be free????

Where do we get our logic these days?

[ReddMann24]

If you were worth 100 million would you buy a $280,000 pair of earrings?

[Pressing-On]

If you were worth 100 million would you buy a $280,000 pair of earrings?
No, I hate earrings. They get tangled in your hair. :ursofunny

[rgcraig]

If you were worth 100 million would you buy a $280,000 pair of earrings?

If I did my math right - on my salary that would equate to me spending $168.00 for a pair of earrings.

Yes.

[Pressing-On]

Jeff HATES lipstick. (But not gloss--especially the flavored kinds :D) He made sure to tell me before we were married that if I ever wore lipstick he would NOT kiss me. lol

His mother and sisters do cake it on, so I understand, and I've never cared for lipstick either. All's well that ends well. :D

Oh my gosh. I used to LOVE lipstick and lip liner!!!!! Had to have it on my person everywhere I went. :ursofunny

[ReddMann24]

oh yeah I have a poverty mentality ....I asked opinions on whether this should sway my vote or if it would sway yours ? but now I'm a poor soul who hates rich people its truly an art the way yall can twist someones words

[deacon blues]

Am i seriously alone no one thinks its going overboard to buy a $280,000 pair of earings?

Do you think that there is a comparison at the alarm the anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-Christian, anti-family values rhetoric coming from Obama and his campaign brings to most of us?

If expensive earrings are all I have to worry about when it comes to McCain, its chump change compared to the REALLY REALLY important issues that Obama is weak on.

PS: OBAMA is RICH!!!!!!!!!!

Quit falling for these Depression Era politics. It is 2008.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Let me have some big money and then ask me how would I spend it.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Mccain and Palin aren't perfect but what does the other side offer the American people ?

[ReddMann24]

If I did my math right - on my salary that would equate to me spending $168.00 for a pair of earrings.

Yes.

I understand your point ...but im asking if you actually had the ablilty to spend $280,000 on jewlery would you do that or would you be content with the 168.00 pair youve wore all your life?

[rgcraig]

I understand your point ...but im asking if you actually had the ablilty to spend $280,000 on jewlery would you do that or would you be content with the 1680.00 pair youve wore all your life?

I cannot honestly answer that because I have the mindset of someone making under $100K - not $100M.

[Ferd]

If you were worth 100 million would you buy a $280,000 pair of earrings?

not likely. I only have one ear pierced and it has been so many years since i wore an ear ring, that the hole is likely closed.....


however I cannot promise that I would not purchase a Maybach... they cost more than that.

[Ferd]

I understand your point ...but im asking if you actually had the ablilty to spend $280,000 on jewlery would you do that or would you be content with the 168.00 pair youve wore all your life?

why does this matter?

why do you require those with more to be content with things that middle class people can afford?

[Pressing-On]

I understand your point ...but im asking if you actually had the ablilty to spend $280,000 on jewlery would you do that or would you be content with the 168.00 pair youve wore all your life?
Quality is always the priority. When you make more you tend to spend more for that. I would love to own all Italian made shoes, but I can't afford them.

[deacon blues]

I don't think that how much her outfit cost is a reflection on how McCain would run the country obviously, but I do not think that it may have been the greatest move considering how you know that people would respond to it. I seem to remember John Edwards really got hammered for getting $400 haircuts or something...it may very well be some of the people out there who were hammering him that are now defending Cindy. Ya gotta love politics.

The huge difference here is that Edwards was talking about the "two Americas" painting himself as someone who was an advocate for the have nots all the while he was getting $400 haircuts and buying a multi million dollar estate.

Its like Al Gore preaching living green to us all while he globe trots around the world in a private jet and sucking up tons of energy in his palatial mansion. The Dems need to come clean with Americans: they say they are for the less fortunate, but they are for the less fortunate when its with OUR money; not theirs.

The Gores were giving less than 1% of their income to charity for years until it made headline news. Someone already posted what the McCains give to charity. If they buy expensive clothes but they give a significant portion of their income to charity---WHO CARES.

If someone declares they are for the poor but they give very little to them personally, that is truly hypocritical.

[Ferd]

PS I like it when rich people spend money. that is one of the things that keeps the economy buzzing along.

the other thing that really helps the economy is when rich people hire folk like me. that really helps too.

[ReddMann24]

why does this matter?

why do you require those with more to be content with things that middle class people can afford?

Never said that I asked rcraig if she was actually worth 100 million would she buy $280,000 earring or would she keep wearing her $168.00 pair :snapout

[rgcraig]

PS I like it when rich people spend money. that is one of the things that keeps the economy buzzing along.

the other thing that really helps the economy is when rich people hire folk like me. that really helps too.

And pay you well so that you can spend money!!!

What a concept!

[Ferd]

Never said that I asked rcraig if she was actually worth 100 million would she buy $280,000 earring or would she keep wearing her $168.00 pair :snapout

well, why the question?

I am being honest here. You are suggesting that you may not be able to vote for McCain because his wife spent a bunch of money on an outfit.


I am asking why that matters at all? I sure would like an answer to this question.

[deacon blues]

well, why the question?

I am being honest here. You are suggesting that you may not be able to vote for McCain because his wife spent a bunch of money on an outfit.


I am asking why that matters at all? I sure would like an answer to this question.

I'm trying to say that the reasons to not vote for Obama are far more serious and impacting than what Cindy paid for her earrings or not, besides the fact that NONE of those Washington politicians live a life that could help any of them relate to how we live. They are all rich.

[ReddMann24]

well your right it shouldnt sway my vote thats why i asked everyones opinion.....I guess i just cant relate ....i kinda contradict myself because i dont think someone in the lower to middle class has any buisness running the country because they have no experince with the amount of money they will have to balance . but my question to rcraig was would she spend $280,000 on earrings if she was worth 100 million or would she still buy the one's she always bought ....and she answered the question .I never said Cindy McCain or any other million air should live as if they were in poverty just said it would be kind of hard to relate to the effect a bad economy would have on a poor or middle class family .....that matters...not that i believe our current economy is bad.

[MikeinAR]

Redmann, I can't tell you what to base your vote on, but I can tell you what I'm going to base mine on. A lot of it has to do with whether you believe this country is in going in the right or wrong direction. If you believe that it's going in the right direction, I believe McCain would be a logical choice. John McCain has been a defender and supporters of the policy of the current Bush administration. As a matter of fact, 95% of his votes were cast in support of GWB. If you are satisfied and supportive of the direction of the country, he's your man.

Now if you believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, I believe your findings on McCain will justify you finding another candidate. I'm not supporting or endorsing any particular one. You'll have to do the research on each other candidate, including the third party options and write-in's and make up your own mind.

I think voters opinions on the general direction of the country will be the deciding factor in November.

[TRFrance]

I totally agree. It should be a non issue. so lame to base one's vote on that. Reminds me of a time in which someone anointed Jesus with an oil that took a whole years worth of salary saying how that could have been given to the poor. Jesus rebuked those who critized the woman for her choice. If Cindy has over 100 million and gives over 1 million a year to charity who are we to judge her for having some diamonds. Sounds like jealousy. :snapout

A lot of it is jealousy.
A lot of them seem to not know that the McCains give a lot more to charity than the Obamas.
McCain and his wife reported donating $129,390, or about 18%, of their joint income to charity in 2006 and nearly $211,000, or about 27%, last year. McCain's campaign says he donates royalties from his five books to charity, as well as each increase to his Senate salary since he first took office in 1991.


The Clintons gave $3 million to charity last year, about 15% of their income, and a total of more than $10 million over the past eight years, according to summaries released by her campaign. The Obamas gave $240,000 to charity last year, about 6% of their income.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-18-mccain-taxes_n.htm

[Ferd]

Just to sharp stick Mike in Arkansas.....

If one thinks the country is on the wrong track but still believes that socialism is a vastly wrong track, they will get socialism by voting for a third party that doesnt believe in socialism.... because a vote for a third party is a vote for Barak Obama who is a socalist....


peace....

[TRFrance]

Just to sharp stick Mike in Arkansas.....

If one thinks the country is on the wrong track but still believes that socialism is a vastly wrong track, they will get socialism by voting for a third party that doesnt believe in socialism.... because a vote for a third party is a vote for Barak Obama who is a socalist....


Well said.
People need to keep in mind that Obama & Biden's America will be very different from McCain & Palin's America.

This election comes down to... which of these two Americas would you prefer to live in.

[Ferd]

Well said.
People need to keep in mind that Obama & Biden's America will be very different from McCain & Palin's America.

This election comes down to... which of these two Americas would you prefer to live in.

Bro, I dont get this notion that taking a road that is worse than the road we are on is better than taking the road we are on....even if you think this road is a bad one....

which I dont.... I do think some of the republicans in washington need a good sound beating. some of them have decided to spend way too much. Others have become quite corrupt.

that doesnt mean i want to elect other people that would spend even more.

[TRFrance]

Bro, I dont get this notion that taking a road that is worse than the road we are on is better than taking the road we are on....even if you think this road is a bad one....

which I dont.... I do think some of the republicans in washington need a good sound beating. some of them have decided to spend way too much. Others have become quite corrupt.

that doesnt mean i want to elect other people that would spend even more.
Ferd, every time I see this video it reminds me why this man would be very very bad for our country. If every American voter were to see this video, and understands the ramifications of what this man is saying, McCain would win in a landslide.....

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs)

[Ferd]

Ferd, every time I see this video it reminds me why this man would be very very bad for our country. If every American voter were to see this video, and understands the ramifications of what this man is saying, McCain would win in a landslide.....

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs)

I wil have to check it out at home. work blocks youtube.

[TRFrance]

I wil have to check it out at home. work blocks youtube.

This is the text:

I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems (http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.58/subject_detail.asp).
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems.
And I will institute an independent “Defense Priorities Board” to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

[MikeinAR]

Bro, I dont get this notion that taking a road that is worse than the road we are on is better than taking the road we are on....even if you think this road is a bad one....

which I dont.... I do think some of the republicans in washington need a good sound beating. some of them have decided to spend way too much. Others have become quite corrupt.

that doesnt mean i want to elect other people that would spend even more.

Ferd, you truly don't believe that the road this country has been on the first past 8 years has been bad? Seriously?

[rgcraig]

Correction - - I was off on my decimals.

I would be paying $168.00 for the earrings to be the same percent as Cindy McCain's income and price of her earrings.

For a nice pair of diamond earrings that would be acceptable for my pay.

[Sam]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?

Cindy McCain is wealthy independently of John McCain. I doubt if he bought that dress for her. I would think she bought it and he has no idea when she got it, where she got it, or how much she paid for it.

I wonder how much the limos and outfits cost at UPC conferences?

[ReddMann24]

wow I hope I never have the kinda hatred for anyone like some of you have for the U.P.C.I.

[HappyTown]

I'm Sure everyone has heard about cindy McCains dress she wore to the convention. if not it was an outfit that totaled $317,100 ......:crazyIknow but now I'm thinking I cant vote for McCain no one who could spend that much money on a dress would be able to know what a bad economy could mean for lower to middle class people . I also would wonder about thier ablility to manage the nations budget?I mean Ive always had the attitude that if you can earn enough to be extravegant then do it...but that is just stupid I dont care how much money you have ...or am I just a poor county boy who dosent get?


Yeah I read that.

I guess money can't buy good tasted...;) Yes I must say the dress was awful looking!

[ReddMann24]

Yeah I read that.

I guess money can't buy good tasted...;) Yes I must say the dress was awful looking!

:ursofunny

[tv1a]

Or what you don't see... Modesty @ GC...

It's nothing different than what you see at a General Conference on any given year.....

:tease

[HappyTown]

What's even funnier is how Mrs Bush is leading her around, like she drunk!

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2008/0905/20080905_125654_Cindy_2_300.jpg

[AmazingGrace]

What's even funnier is how Mrs Bush is leading her around, like she drunk!

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2008/0905/20080905_125654_Cindy_2_300.jpg

Ok how is that leading her around like she is drunk? She is walking and they took the picture with her in step... oh yes thats so drunk... may I ask you exactly what you have been drinking???? Or shall we say what have you been smoking?

[ReddMann24]

What's even funnier is how Mrs Bush is leading her around, like she drunk!

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site569/2008/0905/20080905_125654_Cindy_2_300.jpg

your killing me:ursofunny amazing grace im sure it was a joke lighten up

[HappyTown]

Ok how is that leading her around like she is drunk? She is walking and they took the picture with her in step... oh yes thats so drunk... may I ask you exactly what you have been drinking???? Or shall we say what have you been smoking?

Lol! Lighting up, some of you have no sense of humor!

I thought Laura Bush looked classy. In spite of the cost, Cindy McCain would have been wise to have invested some money in a personal dresser. I heard someone describe her as "dressed as a banana"and to me that was an apt description.

[AmazingGrace]

Lol! Lighting up, some of you have no sense of humor!

I thought Laura Bush looked classy. In spite of the cost, Cindy McCain would have been wise to have invested some money in a personal dresser. I heard someone describe her as "dressed as a banana"and to me that was an apt description.

Do us a favor and post a pic of you and then we can analyze it and until then... I say she has a lot of class.... :)

[HappyTown]

Do us a favor and post a pic of you and then we can analyze it and until then... I say she has a lot of class.... :)

My beauty would overwhelm you! No can do...;)

[AmazingGrace]

Ok I will leave that as no comment and go on... ROFL.....

[crakjak]

The information is actually posted at Vanity Fair and Laura Bush's dress cost more. LOL!

Viva La American Capitalism

If that is true, they both got royaly ripped off, what could possibility make any dress worth that much?

[RevDWW]

It wasn't the dress that cost so much--it was the diamond earrings. :)

"ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 5 (UPI) -- Potential U.S. first lady Cindy McCain sported about $300,000 in designer clothes and accessories at one of the GOP convention sessions, fashion experts said.

Vanity Fair totaled up the duds McCain wore during Tuesday's session of the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., and found the Oscar de la Renta frock McCain wore was $3,000; the Chanel watch, $4,500; shoes, $600, and a four-strand pearl necklace, between $11,000 and $25,000, the New York Daily News reported Friday.

Rounding out the ensemble were 3-carat diamond earrings, a mere $280,000. The newspaper said the jewelry estimates were based on the assumption that the gems were, ah, real.

First lady Laura Bush, by comparison, wore an outfit that night estimated to cost between $3,000 and $4,000, the newspaper reported."

Source (http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2008/09/05/An_RNC_outfit_for_Cindy_McCain_300000/UPI-26471220660851)

Seems I heard the jewelry were family heirlooms. I think she could have dressed more modestly (price wise), but then again that might have been modestly priced clothing according to her income........:ursofunny

[RevDWW]

If that is true, they both got royaly ripped off, what could possibility make any dress worth that much?

Some folks just worship the wrong names.........:whistle

[ReddMann24]

If that is true, they both got royaly ripped off, what could possibility make any dress worth that much?
really!:ursofunny im glad im not the only ingnorant poverty stricken socialist

[HappyTown]

If that is true, they both got royaly ripped off, what could possibility make any dress worth that much?

Agree! Ripped off!

[SOUNWORTHY]

Who looks at the dress, they are both beautiful women. I have been proud having the Bush's as President and First Lady and will be just as proud having John McCain and Cindy as President and First Lady and more than proud having Sarah Palin as Vice President. None of them are perfect but perfect but who is.

[Pressing-On]

If that is true, they both got royaly ripped off, what could possibility make any dress worth that much?

The designer! :D

[Pressing-On]

Who looks at the dress, they are both beautiful women. I have been proud having the Bush's as President and First Lady and will be just as proud having John McCain and Cindy as President and First Lady and more than proud having Sarah Palin as Vice President. None of them are perfect but perfect but who is.

They are indeed classy woman. I'd be very proud of them.

I think Michelle and Biden's wife are also classy women. I don't have that opinion of Hillary.

[TRFrance]

All this VP talk has me wondering... where's Joe Biden been hiding?:whistle

[vrblackwell]

If Cindy McCain wore a dress that she paid 1 billion dollars for it would still not convince me to vote for Obama. Obama is a socialist. That goes against the very things this country was founded on.