NEW Standard Debate in the UPC! "Girls Leggings"!!!

[Thad]

Have you heard that there is a Debate over whether females ought to be allowed to wear Leggings under their skirts ??????


I heard a report that it's the Rage for UPC girls to wear long johns or jogging Pants under their skirts and some folks are in a tizzy over it.

There was even a report of a CA. Con church doing this and brows were raised.


Do you feel this is wrong as it pertains to the doctrine of Duet 22 ????

would you allow it in your church??

your opinions please

[Michlow]

NO way! I think those girls need to have frostbitten legs, and suffer from hypothermia, to really feel feminine and godly :winkgrin

[Ferd]

well, this aint new. I remember this going on back in the 70s.

behold old things have become new.

[rgcraig]

Not sure how I feel about leggings except they look silly to me, especially the stripped ones.

[jshorts]

I think some of those ladies need 2-3 layers of leggings....

[Michlow]

well, this aint new. I remember this going on back in the 70s.

behold old things have become new.

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

[rgcraig]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/p344638.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/p233223.jpg

[HeavenlyOne]

The doctrine of Deut 22 has nothing to do with women wearing leggings or jogging pants under their skirts.

[Thad]

I think some of those ladies need 2-3 layers of leggings....


what do you mean by this ?

[Thad]

The doctrine of Deut 22 has nothing to do with women wearing leggings or jogging pants under their skirts.


well what i mean is, some feel that it's too close to wearing pants which is considered strictly a man's garment according to the teaching

[rgcraig]

well what i mean is, some feel that it's too close to wearing pants which is considered strictly a man's garment according to the teaching

It's more like long underwear to me. Are pantyhose wrong?

[HeavenlyOne]

well what i mean is, some feel that it's too close to wearing pants which is considered strictly a man's garment according to the teaching

I understand that, and I agree that if the church teaches that, then there shouldn't be any exceptions.

This is one of the many problems with standards teachings when specific articles are required. There is no biblical precedent for such teaching.

[Theresa]

I cant get past the idea of how tacky, not to mention silly, it looks......to debate the political correctness of it all

LOL~

[Michlow]

It's more like underwear to me. Are pantyhose wrong?

Breathing is wrong Renda! Didn't you get the memo? It makes the female chest move in and out provocatively :heeheehee

[revrandy]

Some folks just like seeing girls calves & ankles I guess??? :hmmm

[Whole Hearted]

It is wrong for girls to wear leggings, it looks like pants. We don't have that around here.

[LaGirl]

It is a BIG thing in our church. Girls are wearing legging under SHORT skirts. guess it is better than nothing at all?????? i do not like the look myself.

As far as it being an "issue," not sure it is. i have heard people mention it, but seems not to be a big "stink" made out of it.

[rgcraig]

I cant get past the idea of how tacky, not to mention silly, it looks......to debate the political correctness of it all

LOL~

Me either....just tacky!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

It's more like long underwear to me. Are pantyhose wrong?

Frostbite- when is there the threat of frostbite in California in April?!?

It reportedly included the use of bike pants and leggings.

It also was included with skirts shorter than the norm. Next we will see bellybuttons........ aka Christina and Brittney.

[revrandy]

It is wrong for girls to wear leggings, it looks like pants. We don't have that around here.

Under their skirts??

[Scott Hutchinson]

Leggings I wouldn't wear them as they look too femine to me.

[HeavenlyOne]

Breathing is wrong Renda! Didn't you get the memo? It makes the female chest move in and out provocatively :heeheehee

ROFL!

Ever notice that we don't have any female smileys on this forum?

[BrotherEastman]

This looks like a fun discussion.

[HeavenlyOne]

Under their skirts??

We can now measure the holiness of a person from what is on their body below their knees.

[Thad]

It's more like long underwear to me. Are pantyhose wrong?



no panty hose are okay in fact many churches require them on the platform.

[rgcraig]

Breathing is wrong Renda! Didn't you get the memo? It makes the female chest move in and out provocatively :heeheehee

:slaphappy :toofunny :slaphappy

[rgcraig]

no panty hose are okay in fact many churches require them on the platform.

My point exactly. Besides the fact that leggings look tacky, what's the difference in them from pantyhose (with the except that they stop mid calf)?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

It is a BIG thing in our church. Girls are wearing legging under SHORT skirts. guess it is better than nothing at all?????? i do not like the look myself.

As far as it being an "issue," not sure it is. i have heard people mention it, but seems not to be a big "stink" made out of it.

Under their skirts??

Randy,

see above quotes.... :ignore

[HeavenlyOne]

This looks like a fun discussion.

And we see how you jumped right in! :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy

[Theresa]

ROFL!

Ever notice that we don't have any female smileys on this forum?

:girlnails
:kiss <--- I hope one of these is a girl
:cheer <--- ditto
:party <--- and ditto

[Thad]

It is wrong for girls to wear leggings, it looks like pants. We don't have that around here.


It doesn't get cold where you live- what if you lived up in the frozen north ?

[Michlow]

ROFL!

Ever notice that we don't have any female smileys on this forum?

:slaphappy :toofunny :slaphappy

I am feeling a little fiesty today :D

[Theresa]

My point exactly. Besides the fact that leggings look tacky, what's the difference in them from pantyhose (with the except that they stop mid calf)?

ISNT THAT SUFFICIENT??

[Sweet Pea]

I think what Thad is referring to is the shorter skirts (knee length & a little above the knee) with these leggings (like the pictures that Renda posted). I agree that it looks "tacky" . Can't say that I think it's "sin" - but it IMHO it's not a good testimony. :tiphat

I don't think that he was referring to wearing them under skirts for warmth where they are not visable.

[BrotherEastman]

And we see how you jumped right in! :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy
I couldn't resist an opportunity to make liberals feel convicted. LOL!:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy

[Whole Hearted]

Under their skirts??

From what I've seen the girls wear their skirts too short (which is wrong) and then these tight legged britches under then. It's wrong period. I will not put up with it here.

[Thad]

My point exactly. Besides the fact that leggings look tacky, what's the difference in them from pantyhose (with the except that they stop mid calf)?


I have to agree they look a MESS.

well, some are wearing jogging PANTS under skirts. so, they are wearing Pants which is creating waves

[LaGirl]

It's more like long underwear to me. Are pantyhose wrong?

YES!!! I hate wearing them!!! :-)

[Theresa]

It doesn't get cold where you live- what if you lived up in the frozen north ?

it gets cold were I live...


not cold enough for me to dress like THAT


and from what I gather, the ones doing this foul thing are in the HUMID south..

what are they thinking?????:aaa

[Theresa]

I have to agree they look a MESS.

well, some are wearing jogging PANTS under skirts. so, they are wearing Pants which is creating waves

and these folks are in California??

[LaGirl]

Randy,

see above quotes.... :ignore

???

did i say something wrong.

[Theresa]

I think what Thad is referring to is the shorter skirts (knee length & a little above the knee) with these leggings (like the pictures that Renda posted). I agree that it looks "tacky" . Can't say that I think it's "sin" - but it IMHO it's not a good testimony. :tiphat

I don't think that he was referring to wearing them under skirts for warmth where they are not visable.

IMO..

being tacky should be a sin......ROFL

[HeavenlyOne]

:girlnails
:kiss <--- I hope one of these is a girl
:cheer <--- ditto
:party <--- and ditto

Uh......except for the ponytail cheerleader, the others have no hair!

Obviously, they aren't Apostolic smileys!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

:girlnails
:kiss <--- I hope one of these is a girl
:cheer <--- ditto
:party <--- and ditto

It is time to mix them up and I will move some female types in the mix.....:friend

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Uh......except for the ponytail cheerleader, the others have no hair!

Obviously, they aren't Apostolic smileys!

They are backslidden XUPC smileys. :aaa

[Whole Hearted]

It doesn't get cold where you live- what if you lived up in the frozen north ?

I have lived where it was cold. My wife and daughter never wore pants. When I was a kid we live up north ( ID, IL, WY and SD) and even though my mama was backslid she never wore pants.

We live where it is hot and humid and we wear long sleeves.

[Thad]

I think what Thad is referring to is the shorter skirts (knee length & a little above the knee) with these leggings (like the pictures that Renda posted). I agree that it looks "tacky" . Can't say that I think it's "sin" - but it IMHO it's not a good testimony. :tiphat

I don't think that he was referring to wearing them under skirts for warmth where they are not visable.



Hi sweet pea
we enjoyed being at your church Friday!

[HeavenlyOne]

I couldn't resist an opportunity to make liberals feel convicted. LOL!:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy

We want to afford you every opportunity to feel validated.....LOL!

[Theresa]

Uh......except for the ponytail cheerleader, the others have no hair!

Obviously, they aren't Apostolic smileys!

dont you see their pigtails?????????? with BOWs in them??

and the one smiley has a BLUE BOW stuck to her head

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

???

did i say something wrong.

No you answered his question.

And affirmed this is a trend among youth.....

[Michlow]

From what I've seen the girls wear their skirts too short (which is wrong) and then these tight legged britches under then. It's wrong period. I will not put up with it here.

Good thing your saints have you to control their lives :nah

[Thad]

I have lived where it was cold. My wife and daughter never wore pants. When I was a kid we live up north ( ID, IL, WY and SD) and even though my mama was backslid she never wore pants.

We live where it is hot and humid and we wear long sleeves.



what did they do to keep their legs warm? i wouldn't imagine that sheer panty hose alone would gaurd against extreme cold. like when it gets below zero ?

[Theresa]

Good thing your saints have you to control their lives :nah

or wholehearted watches "what not to wear"

[BrotherEastman]

We want to afford you every opportunity to feel validated.....LOL!
Don't take the fun.......er I mean pain away from this.

[HeavenlyOne]

IMO..

being tacky should be a sin......ROFL

There are lots of things that should be a sin.

Fat people wearing tight clothing should be a crime also.

[HeavenlyOne]

They are backslidden XUPC smileys. :aaa

They should be given names, like Renda, Felicity, ILG, HO (well, I'm not XUPC..:D), etc......that way I can easily identify them.

[Whole Hearted]

Good thing your saints have you to control their lives :nah

Good thing we have saints and not aint's

[Thad]

Good thing your saints have you to control their lives :nah


that wasn't very nice to talk to a pastor like that mich

[Theresa]

There are lots of things that should be a sin.

Fat people wearing tight clothing should be a crime also.

yeah..a CRIME...

not just a sin...a CRIME

[rgcraig]

They should be given names, like Renda, Felicity, ILG, HO (well, I'm not XUPC..:D), etc......that way I can easily identify them.

Lol....I already have one and it's the only one I need.
:coolcar

[Carpenter]

Have you heard that there is a Debate over whether females ought to be allowed to wear Leggings under their skirts ??????


I heard a report that it's the Rage for UPC girls to wear long johns or jogging Pants under their skirts and some folks are in a tizzy over it.

There was even a report of a CA. Con church doing this and brows were raised.


Do you feel this is wrong as it pertains to the doctrine of Duet 22 ????

would you allow it in your church??

your opinions please


If Brother Epley or RRFord would wear said leggings, especially the flowery stripey ones, then I would consider them men's apparel and not allow my daughter to continue to wear them. :D

[Hoovie]

Thad, I sincerely hope this thread is a joke.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

If Brother Epley or RRFord would wear said leggings, especially the flowery stripey ones, then I would consider them men's apparel and not allow my daughter to continue to wear them. :D

Does your daughter also wear a mini skirt over bike shorts?

[rgcraig]

Thad, I sincerely hope this thread is a joke.

I'm afraid it's not.

[HeavenlyOne]

dont you see their pigtails?????????? with BOWs in them??

and the one smiley has a BLUE BOW stuck to her head

How do you know it's not a guy with a bow in his head? Isn't blue for boys anyway?

Point made!

[Thad]

Thad, I sincerely hope this thread is a joke.


no it is not seriously.

[rgcraig]

If Brother Epley or RRFord would wear said leggings, especially the flowery stripey ones, then I would consider them men's apparel and not allow my daughter to continue to wear them. :D
I think young girls wearing them is fine - it's the teenagers that look silly wearing them.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Thad, I sincerely hope this thread is a joke.

LAGirl has affirmed it is common in her church also. :tiphat

[Carpenter]

Thad, I sincerely hope this thread is a joke.

If not, I am going to start a thread about men wearing choir robes! We could label them as Satiny-materialed he-whales...(as opposed to our BDWs) :slaphappy

[HeavenlyOne]

Don't take the fun.......er I mean pain away from this.

I don't ever want to be accused of taking the fun......er....pain out of conversations like this!

[Theresa]

How do you know it's not a guy with a bow in his head? Isn't blue for boys anyway?

Point made!

like I said...I HOPE one of these is a girl


:kiss

[Carpenter]

no it is not seriously.

Thad, then see my post above... :D

[HeavenlyOne]

Lol....I already have one and it's the only one I need.
:coolcar

You have no hair in that one either! Sinner!!

[Michlow]

that wasn't very nice to talk to a pastor like that mich

Maybe not Thad, but it's a two-sided street. Besides which, I give no extra consideration to anyone simply because they set themselves up as Pastor over a group of people. I belive that all people are equal in the kingdom of God, and I treat them as such :tiphat

[Carpenter]

like I said...I HOPE one of these is a girl


:kiss

Regardless, the woman is the aggressor, so I am offended and am going to report this little smiley! :D

[BrotherEastman]

Funny, how that most evangelicals believed in standards, and now its getting harder for an apostolic to believe in them. hmmmmmmm

[Theresa]

Maybe not Thad, but it's a two-sided street. Besides which, I give no extra consideration to anyone simply because they set themselves up as Pastor over a group of people. I belive that all people are equal in the kingdom of God, and I treat them as such :tiphat

a person does not "set themselves up" as a pastor over a group of people...

[jshorts]

Not many people skirting the issue on this thread.

[HeavenlyOne]

like I said...I HOPE one of these is a girl


:kiss

Take that bow away and they are identical. That's scary!

[Theresa]

Regardless, the woman is the aggressor, so I am offended and am going to report this little smiley! :D

what should she do, "mr sexy thread"? Light a vanilla candle instead?

[Carpenter]

:slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy :slaphappy

Thad, these threads of yours get the most and quickest play. How do you do it?

...or does it say something about us? :D

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Take that bow away and they are identical. That's scary!

:smack

[HeavenlyOne]

Funny, how that most evangelicals believed in standards, and now its getting harder for an apostolic to believe in them. hmmmmmmm

Did they ever teach them as a heaven or hell issue, or just something that should be followed as a matter of respect?

[Carpenter]

what should she do, "mr sexy thread"? Light a vanilla candle instead?

Yea, maybe then the real men would show up and post instead of us mushy sensitive types all the time!!

...we all know their favorite two words when it comes to talking about romance ... "Stupid Thread." :slaphappy

[rgcraig]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/411A4FS3N8L.jpg

[HeavenlyOne]

what should she do, "mr sexy thread"? Light a vanilla candle instead?

ROFL!!!

:slaphappy

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/411A4FS3N8L.jpg

Trying to put this BACK ON TRACK.... :popcorn2

[HeavenlyOne]

:smack

As we can see, they are now fighting and he knocked the bow off the other one. Voila! It's a man! Like I said!

[BrotherEastman]

Did they ever teach them as a heaven or hell issue, or just something that should be followed as a matter of respect?
As a matter of respect? Honestly? He that knows to do good and doeth it not, to him it is a sin. Since the word respect is thrown in there, is it good to show respect?

[Scott Hutchinson]

WH can I you ask a question ,and I you mean you no disrepect ,do the women in your church wears pajamas?

[rgcraig]

Trying to put this BACK ON TRACK.... :popcorn2

Impossible!

[HeavenlyOne]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/411A4FS3N8L.jpg

Those come out of your closet?

[LaGirl]

No you answered his question.

And affirmed this is a trend among youth.....

it is a trend among our youth. i have only seen younger girls wearing the legging under skirts.

[Thad]

what did they do to keep their legs warm? i wouldn't imagine that sheer panty hose alone would gaurd against extreme cold. like when it gets below zero ?


bump for whole hearted

[revrandy]

I think it depends on where you live as to whether or not leggin's work...

Winter..Leggin's... Why should the girl's suffer the cold???

[rgcraig]

Those come out of your closet?

No darlin' - - I've never worn a skirt that short in my life - won't start now!

Especially now! Lol!

[rgcraig]

I think it depends on where you live as to whether or not leggin's work...

Winter..Leggin's... Why should the girl's suffer the cold???

Teens are wearing them year round - it's not just a cold thing.

[jshorts]

If the leggings are worn so the skirts can be shorter, that is an issue of legalism. There's a heart issue that needs to be addressed. If leggings are worn for warmth, that is a principle issue. For some, leggings look like mens apparel, for others it just a sock with holes at both ends.

Although if it is an issue of being mens apparel, I've never seen mens apparel with two legs and no waist. That would look a bit akward.

[Theresa]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/rgcraig/411A4FS3N8L.jpg

http://www.asos.com/images/inv/E/23/151/76689/GreyMarl/image1l.jpg

[Scott Hutchinson]

Are the leggings women are wearing made for women ?

[LaGirl]

I think it depends on where you live as to whether or not leggin's work...

Winter..Leggin's... Why should the girl's suffer the cold???

well.......it was 80 degrees here this weekend...i saw legging at my church

[HeavenlyOne]

As a matter of respect? Honestly? He that knows to do good and doeth it not, to him it is a sin. Since the word respect is thrown in there, is it good to show respect?

What was respectful to do 50 years ago isn't necessarily what is respectful today.

My point was, did the evangelicals teach standards as a heaven or hell issue? Or was it the culture at the time that set that standard?

[Michlow]

a person does not "set themselves up" as a pastor over a group of people...

Some do ;) Or they get a group of men, to decide "hey, we think you are good enough to be the boss of these poor schlubs over here"

If you think God is behind every man who stands up and said "God put me in charge, you have to listen to what I say", then you are wonderfully naive.

[HeavenlyOne]

WH can I you ask a question ,and I you mean you no disrepect ,do the women in your church wears pajamas?

I hope he cannot honestly answer that question.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

it is a trend among our youth. i have only seen younger girls wearing the legging under skirts.

My 20 year old daughter ( who does not wear them) told me they are seen among the teenage girls....:popcorn2

[Whole Hearted]

what did they do to keep their legs warm? i wouldn't imagine that sheer panty hose alone would gaurd against extreme cold. like when it gets below zero ?

They wore their regular cloths, maybe wool skirts and boots. When my daughter was little she played in the snow in corduroy jumpers and tights and little boots, but not pants, and she was fine.

[rgcraig]

Lord, if we had a one standards only thread, this forum would die........lol!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Seems like in the 80s or mid 70's in the punk rock or new wave era this look was popular .

[LaGirl]

My 20 year old daughter ( who does not wear them) told me they are seen among the teenage girls....:popcorn2


yep......that is the trend here too. well...there is a 21 year old that wears them......

[jshorts]

That doesn't fit the definition of modesty God gave me for my family so that would be off limits in my household. The women in my household have better taste anyway.

http://www.asos.com/images/inv/E/23/151/76689/GreyMarl/image1l.jpg

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Lord, if we had a one standards only thread, this forum would die........lol!

Other Forums also do not have our Beloved Thad-among-us!

:thad

[Theresa]

Some do ;) Or they get a group of men, to decide "hey, we think you are good enough to be the boss of these poor schlubs over here"

If you think God is behind every man who stands up and said "God put me in charge, you have to listen to what I say", then you are wonderfully naive.

and if you think every pastor is some self appointed ego maniac, then you are wonderfully mistaken

[HeavenlyOne]

I think it depends on where you live as to whether or not leggin's work...

Winter..Leggin's... Why should the girl's suffer the cold???

Where I live, there are times church is cancelled because of the cold.

[BrotherEastman]

What was respectful to do 50 years ago isn't necessarily what is respectful today.
My point was, did the evangelicals teach standards as a heaven or hell issue? Or was it the culture at the time that set that standard?
HOGWASH!:preach

[rgcraig]

Other Forums also do not have our Beloved Thad-among-us!

:thad
We are glad he is ours!

[Scott Hutchinson]

I hope he cannot honestly answer that question.

I meant the brother no disrespect or debate as some Pastors teach agains't women wearing female pjs.

[Theresa]

That doesn't fit the definition of modesty God gave me for my family so that would be off limits in my household. The women in my household have better taste anyway.

IMO, its just tacky in or out of the church...

as are these tight t-shirts, with cap sleeves, with full skirts and FLIP FLOPS or those clog looking things with NO SHOW socks.

Were these kids dropped on thier heads?

[Thad]

Maybe not Thad, but it's a two-sided street. Besides which, I give no extra consideration to anyone simply because they set themselves up as Pastor over a group of people. I belive that all people are equal in the kingdom of God, and I treat them as such :tiphat


mich, in a court house, because of his office, everyone gives the Judge a greater level of repsect. in fact, you can't come into the courts of law dressed in any manner with any kind of behavior. there is a certain decorum that is given that may not be rendered elsewhere. I think that the office of the pastor deserves a little more respect. you don't ?

[revrandy]

Thad...
What are you doing looking at Girls' Calves and Legs anyways??? Hmmmmmm..



Hmmmmm....:hmmm.....




:D

[Michlow]

a person does not "set themselves up" as a pastor over a group of people...

and if you think every pastor is some self appointed ego maniac, then you are wonderfully mistaken


I don't think that. However, I refuse to venerate any Pastor or place any member of the ministry on any sort of pedestol. They are simply people, no different than you or I, or anyone else. I give them the exact same respect and consideration that I give to anyone else. :)

[HeavenlyOne]

HOGWASH!:preach

Name something you do as a matter of respect today that was done 50 years ago.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Name something you do as a matter of respect today that was done 50 years ago.

shave

[Thad]

I think it depends on where you live as to whether or not leggin's work...

Winter..Leggin's... Why should the girl's suffer the cold???


I agree. I run cold but I have get to wear pants. i can only imagine that they are warmer.

[BrotherEastman]

mich, in a court house, because of his office, everyone gives the Judge a greater level of repsect. in fact, you can't come into the courts of law dressed in any manner with any kind of behavior. there is a certain decorum that is given that may not be rendered elsewhere. I think that the office of the pastor deserves a little more respect. you don't ?
There is the word 'respect' again. LOL!

[BrotherEastman]

Name something you do as a matter of respect today that was done 50 years ago.
take a shower.

[Thad]

They wore their regular cloths, maybe wool skirts and boots. When my daughter was little she played in the snow in corduroy jumpers and tights and little boots, but not pants, and she was fine.


when you say "tights" were they thick? because that would be similar to leggings would it not ?

[LaGirl]

when you say "tights" were they thick? because that would be similar to leggings would it not ?

tights and leggings are different. tights are thicker hose. leggings are a form of pants....no feet in them.

[Michlow]

mich, in a court house, because of his office, everyone gives the Judge a greater level of repsect. in fact, you can't come into the courts of law dressed in any manner with any kind of behavior. there is a certain decorum that is given that may not be rendered elsewhere. I think that the office of the pastor deserves a little more respect. you don't ?

The church is not a government, or a part of the judicial system. I do not believe that churches should be run like a courthouse. I believe that placing so much stock in what the preacher says allows many saints to deny their own responsibility of their sprititual walk, and need of a personal relationship with God. After all, why do they need to seek God, when they can just ask the Pastor what they are supposed to do. Why fast? Why pray? Instead just get a list of rules to follow and never have to think for oneself.

No, I'm sorry, the fact that someone is abled to get ordained by an organization and find enough money to finance, or get enough people to follow them, or some other men to appoint them. No, I'm sorry that in itself does not garner any automatic respect from me.

[rgcraig]

when you say "tights" were they thick? because that would be similar to leggings would it not ?

Tights are thick, but they also have feet in them. Leggings don't have feet in them.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is a interesting thought which is off topic ,I guess ,but one time in society men never wore hats inside buildings it was considered rude ,now go to a WAL-MART men wear baseball caps inside buildings.

[Brother Strange]

Thad,

I don't know if it has been sad before, but I have nothing against them unless they are the see-through sort. It would be horrible for them to be so transparent that you could actually see the woman's ankles. SHOCK! BLASHPEMY! NOT TO MENTION THE BOTTOM PART OF A WOMAN'S CALF.

HORROR!

[Whole Hearted]

when you say "tights" were they thick? because that would be similar to leggings would it not ?

No they were not like leggings, they were little girl cotton tights. They were like then cotton socks.

[HeavenlyOne]

HOGWASH!:preach

When you wanted to marry your wife, did you ask her dad or father figure for her hand in marriage?

Are you doing to teach your son to call everyone who is an adult by Mr. or Mrs. Lastname? I have to admit that I attempted to teach my kids to do this, but was met by 'oh, just call me Betty'. That was never allowed when I was a kid, and no way would an older person permit themselves to be called by their first name by a child.

[Thad]

tights and leggings are different. tights are thicker hose. leggings are a form of pants....no feet in them.


Oh I see- that must be why there is a rukus over them .

you think it's okay ??

[revrandy]

Thad,

I don't know if it has been sad before, but I have nothing against them unless they are the see-through sort. It would be horrible for them to be so transparent that you could actually see the woman's ankles. SHOCK! BLASHPEMY! NOT TO MENTION THE BOTTOM PART OF A WOMAN'S CALF.

HORROR!

or her bottom.....






ROFL.....:D:D:D

[HeavenlyOne]

I meant the brother no disrespect or debate as some Pastors teach agains't women wearing female pjs.

He might preach against them, but I'd hope he has no idea if the women are following his teaching or not.

[jshorts]

Buffy, meet Jack Baur. Thousands of lives are at stake. I will use any means necessary to get you to church on sunday. Your country needs you. Your church needs you.

sorry about the tangent.. the symbolism is too great to pass up.

The church is not a government, or a part of the judicial system. I do not believe that churches should be run like a courthouse. I believe that placing so much stock in what the preacher says allows many saints to deny their own responsibility of their sprititual walk, and need of a personal relationship with God. After all, why do they need to seek God, when they can just ask the Pastor what they are supposed to do. Why fast? Why pray? Instead just get a list of rules to follow and never have to think for oneself.

No, I'm sorry, the fact that someone is abled to get ordained by an organization and find enough money to finance, or get enough people to follow them, or some other men to appoint them. No, I'm sorry that in itself does not garner any automatic respect from me.

[rgcraig]

No they were not like leggings, they were little girl cotton tights. They were like then cotton socks.

WH - someone asked earlier if you allow your ladies to wear pj's?

[LaGirl]

Oh I see- that must be why there is a rukus over them .

you think it's okay ??



i would not wear them! but them again...i am too old.....lol
i really do not like them at church.

[BrotherEastman]

When you wanted to marry your wife, did you ask her dad or father figure for her hand in marriage?

Are you doing to teach your son to call everyone who is an adult by Mr. or Mrs. Lastname? I have to admit that I attempted to teach my kids to do this, but was met by 'oh, just call me Betty'. That was never allowed when I was a kid, and no way would an older person permit themselves to be called by their first name by a child.
As a matter of fact, I did ask my wifes father if I could marry her. You better believe that I will teach my child to say yes sir/ma'am and no sir/ma'am. He will call them Mr. and Mrs. (lastname) these things are still done today.

[Ravens]

I cant get past the idea of how tacky, not to mention silly, it looks......to debate the political correctness of it all

LOL~

ME TOO, ME TOO!! I have started seeing this in rallys and so forth. . .I personally don't think there is anything wrong with it but it just looks so dumb that I wonder why even bother? But perhaps I am getting old??

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Oh I see- that must be why there is a rukus over them .

you think it's okay ??

Or the frilly lace drawing attention to a shorter skirt.....

[HeavenlyOne]

shave

Hahaha....actually, mustaches were more common 50 years ago than today.

[Whole Hearted]

WH - someone asked earlier if you allow your ladies to wear pj's?

I don't preach on what kind of sleeping cloths women wear, but my wife and daughter do not wear them.

[Thad]

Thad,

I don't know if it has been sad before, but I have nothing against them unless they are the see-through sort. It would be horrible for them to be so transparent that you could actually see the woman's ankles. SHOCK! BLASHPEMY! NOT TO MENTION THE BOTTOM PART OF A WOMAN'S CALF.

HORROR!

some of the girls are wearing these ultra lacey hosery which i think is not any worse then the leggings!

[HeavenlyOne]

take a shower.

Thank God for that.....LOL!

[HeavenlyOne]

when you say "tights" were they thick? because that would be similar to leggings would it not ?

Tights are leggings with feet.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Hahaha....actually, mustaches were more common 50 years ago than today.

Not true. Maybe 65 years ago.

Thanks for the John Wayne warmovies to define this....

[rgcraig]

ME TOO, ME TOO!! I have started seeing this in rallys and so forth. . .I personally don't think there is anything wrong with it but it just looks so dumb that I wonder why even bother? But perhaps I am getting old??

Well, it sorta defeats the "warm" argument for sure since they stop at the calf! And wearing them with heels is just super tacky!

[revrandy]

some of the girls are wearing these ultra lacey hosery which i think is not any worse then the leggings!

Somewhat leans towards...hookerism....

[Scott Hutchinson]

I don't preach on what kind of sleeping cloths women wear, but my wife and daughter do not wear them.

That's fine and my dear UC brother I didn't mean to ask you something to cast you in a bad light,hopefully that impression was not given.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

ME TOO, ME TOO!! I have started seeing this in rallys and so forth. . .I personally don't think there is anything wrong with it but it just looks so dumb that I wonder why even bother? But perhaps I am getting old??


:popcorn2

[Thad]

WH - someone asked earlier if you allow your ladies to wear pj's?


at our youth camp they had a "jammy check". my niece had on cotton sweats and they made her take them off and put on a jean skirt.
I am not kidding about this.

thing is, it was a girls only cabin. also, one girl was walking to the bathroom to brush her teeth. she had pajamis on. the pastor's wife that was over the camp came charging out of her cabin and openly rebuked her. I was told that you would have thought she committed a murder :hypercoffee

[BrotherEastman]

Somewhat leans towards...hookerism....
hookerism???? LOL!:slaphappy :slaphappy

[Thad]

Somewhat leans towards...hookerism....


YEa they do srot of look that way- they look like chorus girls

[rgcraig]

at our youth camp they had a "jammy check". my niece had on cotton sweats and they made her take them off and put on a jean skirt.
I am not kidding about this.

thing is, it was a girls only cabin. also, one girl was walking to the bathroom to brush her teeth. she had pajamis on. the pastor's wife that was over the camp came charging out of her cabin and openly rebuked her. I was told that you would have thought she committed a murder :hypercoffee

:girlnails

[revrandy]

at our youth camp they had a "jammy check". my niece had on cotton sweats and they made her take them off and put on a jean skirt.
I am not kidding about this.

thing is, it was a girls only cabin. also, one girl was walking to the bathroom to brush her teeth. she had pajamis on. the pastor's wife that was over the camp came charging out of her cabin and openly rebuked her. I was told that you would have thought she committed a murder :hypercoffee

Rebellion is as witchcraft..... sounds equal??? :donuts

[Scott Hutchinson]

Now how about some humor,one day an evangelist went to a church to conduct a revival ,and his wife was a singer.
One night the evangelist asked his wife to sing a song ,The Pastor said brother she can't sing on my platform as she is wearing open toed shoes ,which we don't allow around here.
The Pastor said brother if she slips off those shoes ,she can sing bare-footed this we will allow.

[jshorts]

So ultra cons do allow for personal clothing conviction. It may be in the bedroom, but it's a start. lol

I don't preach on what kind of sleeping cloths women wear, but my wife and daughter do not wear them.

[LaGirl]

at our youth camp they had a "jammy check". my niece had on cotton sweats and they made her take them off and put on a jean skirt.
I am not kidding about this.

thing is, it was a girls only cabin. also, one girl was walking to the bathroom to brush her teeth. she had pajamis on. the pastor's wife that was over the camp came charging out of her cabin and openly rebuked her. I was told that you would have thought she committed a murder :hypercoffee

now THAT is CRAZY!

[rgcraig]

Now how about some humor,one day an evangelist went to a church to conduct a revival ,and his wife was a singer.
One night the evangelist asked his wife to sing a song ,The Pastor said brother she can't sing on my platform as she is wearing open toed shoes ,which we don't allow around here.
The Pastor said brother if she slips off those shoes ,she can sing bare-footed this we will allow.

Makes total sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!























NOT!

[revrandy]

Now how about some humor,one day an evangelist went to a church to conduct a revival ,and his wife was a singer.
One night the evangelist asked his wife to sing a song ,The Pastor said brother she can't sing on my platform as she is wearing open toed shoes ,which we don't allow around here.
The Pastor said brother if she slips off those shoes ,she can sing bare-footed this we will allow.

That happened in Merced... .Thad's church....

[HeavenlyOne]

As a matter of fact, I did ask my wifes father if I could marry her. You better believe that I will teach my child to say yes sir/ma'am and no sir/ma'am. He will call them Mr. and Mrs. (lastname) these things are still done today.

Cool! I think that's special and respecful and rarely seen today, but if you hadn't done so, it wouldn't have been seen as disrespectful as it once was. That was my point.

Good luck on the MR/MRS Lastname. I was in the south at that time and was constantly met with resistance, even by the elderly. I was quite shocked, having grown up differently in the liberal north!

The sir and ma'am thing disappears when they approach the teen years, for the most part. I yelled at my daughter real good the other day when she was being scolded for kicking her brother and called me 'dude'. LOL!

I said I'm not your dude, I'm your mother! She was quite embarrassed!

My son has called me 'dude' a couple times. He's met with the same response!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Hookerism what about all of this high heeled shoes women wear to conferences ,lookes like hooker shoes?

[Thad]

Now how about some humor,one day an evangelist went to a church to conduct a revival ,and his wife was a singer.
One night the evangelist asked his wife to sing a song ,The Pastor said brother she can't sing on my platform as she is wearing open toed shoes ,which we don't allow around here.
The Pastor said brother if she slips off those shoes ,she can sing bare-footed this we will allow.


that is total insanity

I do remember Years ago that they preached against "open toes"
also no Heels out, no straped shoes either those were thought to be too sexy

[revrandy]

Hookerism what about all of this high heeled shoes women wear to conferences ,lookes like hooker shoes?

Or the Spiked Boots we are seeing... that go up the leg....

Those seem a little over the top... somewhat.... :hmmm

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Hookerism what about all of this high heeled shoes women wear to conferences ,lookes like hooker shoes?

You better be glad TheMrs is in Ireland.....:2cents

[HeavenlyOne]

Not true. Maybe 65 years ago.

Thanks for the John Wayne warmovies to define this....

Ah, yes. TV once again infiltrates society and provides the standard we should adopt! LOL!

But you are probably correct. I forget how old I am!

[Thad]

That happened in Merced... .Thad's church....


Oh NO it didnt! let me make that clear !!!!!


Years and years ago back in the 60s my father did preach against open toe shoes though lol lol !

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

that is total insanity

I do remember Years ago that they preached against "open toes"
also no Heels out, no straped shoes either those were thought to be too sexy

30 years ago white shoes were only worn by Homo men.....

[Ravens]

Maybe not Thad, but it's a two-sided street. Besides which, I give no extra consideration to anyone simply because they set themselves up as Pastor over a group of people. I belive that all people are equal in the kingdom of God, and I treat them as such :tiphat

Around here in my neck of the woods, Pastors are voted in. . .by the people.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Ah, yes. TV once again infiltrates society and provides the standard we should adopt! LOL!

But you are probably correct. I forget how old I am!

AS if I would begin a beard debate in a women's standard thread....

[revrandy]

Oh NO it didnt! let me make that clear !!!!!


Years and years ago back in the 60s my father did preach against open toe shoes though lol lol !

heheheheh:evilglee

[Thad]

now THAT is CRAZY!


isn't it?

who cares what you have on under a sleeping bag ??

[True Believer]

It is wrong for girls to wear leggings, it looks like pants. We don't have that around here.
I never thought they looked like pants. I think they look more like tights with no feet in them. I don't mind them in general. But some think since they have them on then their leg is covered so they can wear a shorter skirt. I guess these girls don't really get the concept of modesty.

[HeavenlyOne]

at our youth camp they had a "jammy check". my niece had on cotton sweats and they made her take them off and put on a jean skirt.
I am not kidding about this.

thing is, it was a girls only cabin. also, one girl was walking to the bathroom to brush her teeth. she had pajamis on. the pastor's wife that was over the camp came charging out of her cabin and openly rebuked her. I was told that you would have thought she committed a murder :hypercoffee

I'm sure many of them had on nightgowns that were immodest in public also!

I wouldn't allow my child to go to a camp that would do the above.

[Scott Hutchinson]

One time a Evangelist was conducting a revivals and was praying alot of folks through.
He was in the car listening to a ball -game after a service ,someone find out about it and cancelled the meeting.Now someone told me this so I don't know if this is true or not.

[Thad]

30 years ago white shoes were only worn by Homo men.....


hair spray too. you could only use lard ! lol

I know a UPC church here in CA. that all the men part their hair on the right side- serious

[revrandy]

One time a Evangelist was conducting a revivals and was praying alot of folks through.
He was a car listening to a ball -game after a service ,someone find out about it and cancelled the meeting.Now someone told me this so I don't know if this is true or not.

This happened in Merced....Thad's Church...

[BrotherEastman]

Page 18 already? You guys are fun.

[HeavenlyOne]

This happened in Merced....Thad's Church...

I was there and know this to be true.


:D:hypercoffee

[LaGirl]

One time a Evangelist was conducting a revivals and was praying alot of folks through.
He was in the car listening to a ball -game after a service ,someone find out about it and cancelled the meeting.Now someone told me this so I don't know if this is true or not.

he was in his car after service or during?

[HeavenlyOne]

Page 18 already? You guys are fun.

It's only five pages when the settings are different.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Now this is true because a Older Brother who was in The Cleveland TN. Church Of God ,but who got a revelation of One God and Jesus Name told me this.
One time many yrs.ago when this brother was a young man ,he was in a service and a young woman received The Holy Ghost and was speaking in tongues.
A minister said that ain't the Holy Ghost look at those red-socks that can't be the Holy Ghost.

[Ravens]

The church is not a government, or a part of the judicial system. I do not believe that churches should be run like a courthouse. I believe that placing so much stock in what the preacher says allows many saints to deny their own responsibility of their sprititual walk, and need of a personal relationship with God. After all, why do they need to seek God, when they can just ask the Pastor what they are supposed to do. Why fast? Why pray? Instead just get a list of rules to follow and never have to think for oneself.

No, I'm sorry, the fact that someone is abled to get ordained by an organization and find enough money to finance, or get enough people to follow them, or some other men to appoint them. No, I'm sorry that in itself does not garner any automatic respect from me.

Why then even have a pastor at all?

[revrandy]

Page 18 already? You guys are fun.

What did you expect from a thread about women's calves and ankles??? :popcorn2

[jshorts]

As a kid my family went to church where the girls had to wear brown hair barretts and Mennonite dresses while the boys and to wear white shirt, blue pants and a blue tie. The adults could had a dress code, but it wasn't color coordinated...

hair spray too. you could only use lard ! lol

I know a UPC church here in CA. that all the men part their hair on the right side- serious

[revrandy]

Now this is true because a Older Brother who was in The Cleveland TN. Church Of God ,but who got a revelation of One God and Jesus Name told me this.
One time many yrs.ago when this brother was a young man ,he was in a service and a young woman received The Holy Ghost and was speaking in tongues.
A minister said that ain't the Holy Ghost look at those red-socks that can't be the Holy Ghost.

Are you sure ... I think that it happened in Merced...That's Thad's Church... :donuts

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

It's only five pages when the settings are different.

:smack

[Scott Hutchinson]

he was in his car after service or during?

The Brother that told me this ,said the man was listening to a ball-game after the service.

[revrandy]

The Brother that told me this ,said the man was listening to a ball-game after the service.

It was Thad.....:popcorn2

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

hair spray too. you could only use lard ! lol

I know a UPC church here in CA. that all the men part their hair on the right side- serious

Where do you part a fro?

[revrandy]

Where do you part a fro?

How do you part yours?


and why did I see you in Legging's at Merced... Thad's Church?? :hmmm

[Ferd]

God is a man and he does NOT like leggings! (unless it is very cold and He still prefers you stay indoors on cold days unless it is sunday which you have to go to church but leggings are out for church so you need a very long heavy coat that will keep you from being cold but you do have to wear panty hose and there are some panty hose that are dark in color and more thick. these are not really leggings so they are ok although they really are leggings.)

[LaGirl]

The Brother that told me this ,said the man was listening to a ball-game after the service.

go cubbies :-)

[Thad]

Are you sure ... I think that it happened in Merced...That's Thad's Church... :donuts


MAN! what's gotton into u !! you are Triiiiipin today !

[Scott Hutchinson]

Are you sure ... I think that it happened in Merced...That's Thad's Church... :donuts

This Brother had a father who would always wear a long sleeved shirt buttomed up to the top.This man had a Free -Holiness background.
This man's grandson Pastors the church now ,now they are strictly oneness but they preach agains't wrist watches and such.

[revrandy]

God is a man and he does NOT like leggings! (unless it is very cold and He still prefers you stay indoors on cold days unless it is sunday which you have to go to church but leggings are out for church so you need a very long heavy coat that will keep you from being cold but you do have to wear panty hose)

If anyone's to Blame.. It's God.. he created them calves and legs in the first place!!!! :popcorn2

[Ravens]

Or the Spiked Boots we are seeing... that go up the leg....

Those seem a little over the top... somewhat.... :hmmm

LOL. . . .I have a friend who has high heeled knee boots and she even refers to them herself as her 'hooker boots'. . . .

[revrandy]

This Brother had a father who would always wear a long sleeved shirt buttomed up to the top.This man had a Free -Holiness background.
This man's grandson Pastors the church now ,now they are strictly oneness but they preach agains't wrist watches and such.

Yep...That's Thad...

Never ask Thad what time it is... or what the Speed Limit is... :donuts

[Thad]

Where do you part a fro?


haha! well, i don't think this church has too many black folks if any lol

furthermore, i would suspect that afros would be out lawed too

[revrandy]

LOL. . . .I have a friend who has high heeled knee boots and she even refers to them herself as her 'hooker boots'. . . .

Pastor's Wife?

[jshorts]

Or to pick up the tab... lol

Yep...That's Thad...

Never ask Thad what time it is... or what the Speed Limit is... :donuts

[Scott Hutchinson]

go cubbies :-)

BTW I found my braves hat ,but my daughter told me not to wear it ,when I picked her up from school today.

[HeavenlyOne]

:smack

Why you keep beating on me? I haven't had this much abuse since leaving the UP........er.......well, a place I used to visit.

:D

[HeavenlyOne]

The Brother that told me this ,said the man was listening to a ball-game after the service.

My pastor has dismissed church early because of a football game....LOL!

[Thad]

Yep...That's Thad...

Never ask Thad what time it is... or what the Speed Limit is... :donuts


now the speed limit thing... you're kinda right - how did you know LOL

i'm not sure what you mean about the time ---- ???

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Why you keep beating on me? I haven't had this much abuse since leaving the UP........er.......well, a place I used to visit.

:D

:hmmm

[Scott Hutchinson]

I just love Thad and Thad's Tab reminded me of a song that the Hee-Haw honeys sung on Hee-Haw.
It went oh weren't not ones to go around spreading rumors ,cause we ain't the gossiping kind , so you'd better listen up to get the story straight the first time.LUV YA THAD.

[Thad]

SCott, I remember when I was a kid back in the 70s, the women use to wear those HUGE Hair dos - it looked liked MUfflers stacked on their heads lol

anyhow, at the time, an Evangelist went to a church to preach a revival where the pastor didn't allow the women to use "Rats" ??? in their hair. it was some kind of stuffing they used to poof it out. anyhow, the pastor found out that the evangelist' wife had "Rats" in her hair. he said either the hairdo comes down or we close the revival. the evangelist closed the meeting and left

[Ravens]

LOL. . . .I have a friend who has high heeled knee boots and she even refers to them herself as her 'hooker boots'. . . .

Pastor's Wife?

:ursofunny
but no. . . .

[revrandy]

now the speed limit thing... you're kinda right - how did you know LOL

i'm not sure what you mean about the time ---- ???

Well we have met once... and then we followed your vapor trail and tire track marks to the restarunt... :popcorn2

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

haha! well, i don't think this church has too many black folks if any lol

furthermore, i would suspect that afros would be out lawed too

I have noted I may not fit in since I don't part my hair at all.

The last barber cut it as if I did- what a mess!

And----- I parted it on the LEFT.



What does any of this have to do with Teen girls looking like prostitutes with leggings?

[Thad]

I just love Thad and Thad's Tab reminded me of a song that the Hee-Haw honeys sung on Hee-Haw.
It went oh weren't not ones to go around spreading rumors ,cause we ain't the gossiping kind , so you'd better listen up to get the story straight the first time.LUV YA THAD.


YOU??? YOU liked Thad's Tab????? now the truth is finally coming out !!!!!

[Scott Hutchinson]

SCott, I remember when I was a kid back in the 70s, the women use to wear those HUGE Hair dos - it looked liked MUfflers stacked on their heads lol

anyhow, at the time, an Evangelist went to a church to preach a revival where the pastor didn't allow the women to use "Rats" ??? in their hair. it was some kind of stuffing they used to poof it out. anyhow, the pastor found out that the evangelist' wife had "Rats" in her hair. he said either the hairdo comes down or we close the revival. the evangelist closed the meeting and left

Some older sisters have told me in the 60s at camp-meetings they used to check women for cereal boxes and such in their hair during the bee-hive craze.

[Thad]

Well we have met once... and then we followed your vapor trail and tire track marks to the restarunt... :popcorn2


no one got lost- it's all these slow drivers. i'll never get it !!!!!

[HeavenlyOne]

SCott, I remember when I was a kid back in the 70s, the women use to wear those HUGE Hair dos - it looked liked MUfflers stacked on their heads lol

anyhow, at the time, an Evangelist went to a church to preach a revival where the pastor didn't allow the women to use "Rats" ??? in their hair. it was some kind of stuffing they used to poof it out. anyhow, the pastor found out that the evangelist' wife had "Rats" in her hair. he said either the hairdo comes down or we close the revival. the evangelist closed the meeting and left

Seems that standards has always been an item of contention, just the specifics have changed over the years........

[Scott Hutchinson]

YOU??? YOU liked Thad's Tab????? now the truth is finally coming out !!!!!

It's reminded me of a party line telephone and that Hee-Haw song.

[rgcraig]

Some older sisters have told me in the 60s at camp-meetings they used to check women for cereal boxes and such in their hair during the bee-hive craze.

That was probably oatmeal boxes since they were round.

I knew a lady that used the cardboard rolls out of toliet paper.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

no one got lost- it's all these slow drivers. i'll never get it !!!!!

I resemble this remark.....

[Scott Hutchinson]

How about the guy that preached agains't hair-spray but used tons of hair tonic ?

[revrandy]

I heard of a Pastor checking folks (visitors included) length of skirt at the door of the church and if a woman was wearing pants.. he asked her to change in the ladies room... they had visitor skirts there...
or if the skirt was too short they could change too..

[Thad]

I have noted I may not fit in since I don't part my hair at all.

The last barber cut it as if I did- what a mess!

And----- I parted it on the LEFT.






What does any of this have to do with Teen girls looking like prostitutes with leggings?


on the LEFT side ?????
you need to search your heart brother!

[Scott Hutchinson]

That was probably oatmeal boxes since they were round.

I knew a lady that used the cardboard rolls out of toliet paper.

Yes that sounds right.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

That was probably oatmeal boxes since they were round.

I knew a lady that used the cardboard rolls out of toliet paper.

I saw the Quaker Oat Man in church one night!

This is a very UC church and the last time I was there no one even spoke to me. I thought that was a strange way to greet visitors and never went back.

[Thad]

It's reminded me of a party line telephone and that Hee-Haw song.


THAT reminds me of YOU!!!! LOL

[HeavenlyOne]

I heard of a Pastor checking folks (visitors included) length of skirt at the door of the church and if a woman was wearing pants.. he asked her to change in the ladies room... they had visitor skirts there...
or if the skirt was too short they could change too..

Visitor skirts.....LOL!

What happened if the skirts didn't fit?

[South of I 90]

I thought is was ok to wear leggings in the WD as long as it was covered by the burka!! :coffee2

[LaGirl]

BTW I found my braves hat ,but my daughter told me not to wear it ,when I picked her up from school today.


GOOD GIRL! I am still looking for you a cubs hat!

[Michlow]

Buffy, meet Jack Baur. Thousands of lives are at stake. I will use any means necessary to get you to church on sunday. Your country needs you. Your church needs you.

sorry about the tangent.. the symbolism is too great to pass up.

:D

Around here in my neck of the woods, Pastors are voted in. . .by the people.

The last 2 churches that I have attended, have both been started by the current pastor.

Why then even have a pastor at all?

An excellent point! Which is why I don't. Not that I think that will earn me any Brownie points. I guess you didn't read the post where I proclaimed myself a backslidden, church skipping, heathen (with a lot of other adjectives thrown in for good measure) ;)

I visit a church twice a month (not nearly good enough according to a recent poor by Coop), which is done somewhat under duress, so now, feel free to write me off as a worldly carnal nobody ;)

[revrandy]

I heard of a Pastor checking folks (visitors included) length of skirt at the door of the church and if a woman was wearing pants.. he asked her to change in the ladies room... they had visitor skirts there...
or if the skirt was too short they could change too..

Visitor skirts.....LOL!

What happened if the skirts didn't fit?

I think it was Merced...Thad's Church... :popcorn2

[Thad]

How about the guy that preached agains't hair-spray but used tons of hair tonic ?


I heard of one who preached against RED but secretly drunk RED wine LOL
i wont mention the name last time i did Hell broke lose

[rgcraig]

I heard of a Pastor checking folks (visitors included) length of skirt at the door of the church and if a woman was wearing pants.. he asked her to change in the ladies room... they had visitor skirts there...
or if the skirt was too short they could change too..
Please tell me this wasn't a UPC church.

[revrandy]

Please tell me this wasn't a UPC church.

I think it was Merced....Thad's Church... :popcorn2

[Scott Hutchinson]

My Pastor said He knew of a Oneness church that had a throne in it ,so when Christ would come back and He would sit on that throne and the millenial reign ,would begin and they had rather strict standards ,so if vistors came and weren't dressed right ,they had clothes in the church and they dressed the folks who didn't dress according to their standards so the sanctuary wouldn't get defiled.

[revrandy]

I heard a Pastor was checking women's shoes coming into the church.. and if the heel was over 2" he made them take them off... and they could put them back on when they left....

[revrandy]

My Pastor said He knew of a Oneness church that had a throne in it ,so when Christ would come back and He would sit on that throne and the millenial reign ,would begin and they had rather strict standards ,so if vistors came and weren't dressed right ,they had clothes in the church and they dressed the folks who didn't dress according to their standards so the sanctuary wouldn't get defiled.

That was Merced.....Thad's Church...

[True Believer]

What was respectful to do 50 years ago isn't necessarily what is respectful today.

My point was, did the evangelicals teach standards as a heaven or hell issue? Or was it the culture at the time that set that standard?

I'm having a hard time with this statement HeavenlyOne. It is the culture of our time for women to run around with hardly any close on. Does that make it right because it is our culture? I think the standards came about because some were no longer listening to the Holy Ghost.

I was watching a video of a Bible Methodist revival. (Barb mentioned them in another thread and I was interested in them). The preacher said that the people are loosing their feeling for the Holy Ghost. Meaning, when the Holy Ghost convicts them about a certain thing they don't listen. He gave the example of when you get dressed and the Holy Ghost tells you that what you just put on isn't right. With out that it does seem to become legalistic.

I said all that to say...I don't believe standards are a Heaven/Hell issue. But just because it is the culture/fad/style at the time doesn't mean we have to follow it all. Some of the c/f/s isn't bad, but much of it is something we shouldn't have in our life.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I think it was Merced....Thad's Church... :popcorn2

That was Merced.....Thad's Church...

Would you stop already?

[Thad]

I heard a Pastor was checking women's shoes coming into the church.. and if the heel was over 2" he made them take them off... and they could put them back on when they left....


have you heard of the church that if a visitor came in pants, they made " PAPER SKIRTS" that the women had to tape on or else they was asked to leave

[Thad]

Would you stop already?


just pray for randy that the LOrd would deliver him from smoking reefers ! lol

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

just pray for randy that the LOrd would deliver him

Ouch!

[HeavenlyOne]

I'm having a hard time with this statement HeavenlyOne. It is the culture of our time for women to run around with hardly any close on. Does that make it right because it is our culture? I think the standards came about because some were no longer listening to the Holy Ghost.

I was watching a video of a Bible Methodist revival. (Barb mentioned them in another thread and I was interested in them). The preacher said that the people are loosing their feeling for the Holy Ghost. Meaning, when the Holy Ghost convicts them about a certain thing they don't listen. He gave the example of when you get dressed and the Holy Ghost tells you that what you just put on isn't right. With out that it does seem to become legalistic.

I said all that to say...I don't believe standards are a Heaven/Hell issue. But just because it is the culture/fad/style at the time doesn't mean we have to follow it all. Some of the c/f/s isn't bad, but much of it is something we shouldn't have in our life.

You are confusing fads with culture. Our culture doesn't have a standard of people wearing hardly any clothes, but just like any culture, there are fads that come and go.

The local Goth group is modestly dressed, but their style of clothing isn't what a Christian should wear, nor is their style of clothing considered to be cultural.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I appreciate people's convictions I really do, I have been really been having fun.Hopefully I haven't offended ,anybody here.
My Pastor got The Holy Ghost at age 13 in Mobile,AL.
Anyways the church he got the Holy Ghost and that he got baptized in Jesus Name in split over the issue of girls wearing ribbons in their hair ,the church never recovered from it.

[Scott Hutchinson]

On the opposite sideof the coin you go into alot of Charismatic churches ,you can't tell if you are in a night-club or not.

[Thad]

I appreciate people's convictions I really do, I have been really been having fun.Hopefully I haven't offended ,anybody here.
My Pastor got The Holy Ghost at age 13 in Mobile,AL.
Anyways the church he got the Holy Ghost and that he got baptized in Jesus Name in split over the issue of girls wearing ribbons in their hair ,the church never recovered from it.

scott please you couldn't hurt a dust mite.

PSR use to preach against hair ribbons and bows. I think even the UC churches have lightend up on that one BUT i do know of an AMF church where the Pastors daughter was spoted out of town wearing a Bow in her hair. the Next sunday, she had to get up and confess and apologize for wearing the hair bow.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

You are confusing fads with culture. Our culture doesn't have a standard of people wearing hardly any clothes, but just like any culture, there are fads that come and go.

The local Goth group is modestly dressed, but their style of clothing isn't what a Christian should wear, nor is their style of clothing considered to be cultural.

So the Mae West nekkidness of 1925 was not cultural? some attribute the Great Depression to being the Judgement of God on such wickedness.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Where my pastor's old church is is now a shopping center.That church was once a thriving work in Cricthon,AL.

[Thad]

So the Mae West nekkidness of 1925 was not cultural? some attribute the Great Depression to being the Judgement of God on such wickedness.

really? I have never heard that before. If that's the case, we are REALLY in for it lol

[Thad]

Where my pastor's old church is is now a shopping center.That church was once a thriving work in Cricthon,AL.


what happend ?