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oneinkhorn
05-06-2014, 04:45 PM
Man Arrested When He Speaks Out at a School Board Meeting About a Controversial Book Assigned to His Daughter

A New Hampshire parent was arrested at a Monday night school board meeting after he voiced outrage his ninth grade daughter was assigned a book that contains a page detailing a graphic sexual encounter.

According to WCVB-TV, the book contains a graphic description of rough sex between two teenagers, which parents were unaware of until the book had already been distributed to their kids.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HC2LPu8wHQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryVWfATBT9M

n david
05-06-2014, 04:59 PM
What is this, Russia?

Seriously. We can't speak out against a filthy book the public schools push to the kids behind the parents back? Ridiculous.

MissBrattified
05-06-2014, 05:05 PM
Disgusting. And by that, I mostly mean the condescending, patronizing, controlling, tyrannical behavior of the board chairman and the cowardly silence of all the other board members. :foottap

One person commented on the Youtube video and said, "Need to investigate the school board to find out who the pedophile is." Um...I AGREE! Seriously, this is great material for starting off a Law and Order:SVU episode. :blink

The most telling component was that no one would read the book aloud, and yet they expected children to read it. I wonder if they read excerpts aloud in class?

Jermyn Davidson
05-06-2014, 09:57 PM
He was arrested for behaving badly, not for speaking against the sexual book.

The excerpt in question is disgusting and I would be very upset that this book was distributed as mandatory reading for a high school class.

Had this father been a teenager, we would be glad to see that teenager made to show respect for law enforcement officers as he is thrown to the ground for running his exhaust pipe.

This father's attitude made me angry enough to want to tweak his handcuffs or pull up on his hands even just a little bit to purposefully cause more pain to him in hopes it would make him shut up.

This father definitely had the attitude of a rotten teenager, but the restraint that comes with maturity so instead of getting his head bashed in by the police officer, we get to continue to hear his nauseating voice.


Moral: Don't be too quick to blame the teenager when he is bashed by law enforcement.

MissBrattified
05-06-2014, 10:18 PM
He was arrested for behaving badly, not for speaking against the sexual book.
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JD...he wasn't behaving badly. He was just talking. :) I was annoyed with the person recording the incident, because he wasn't simply (silently) recording. The police officer was polite, but I'm not sure he or the chairwoman were actually within their rights to stop the man from talking. It's not like it was a courtroom where the judge has the right to stop people from talking or they will be held in contempt, for Pete's sake. It was a school board meeting.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this, if anything. Personally, I would like for the entire school board to be fired for being too scared to read the book excerpt aloud. :heeheehee I don't think they were scared of the book content, mind you; I think they were scared to death of Hitlerella.

Jermyn Davidson
05-06-2014, 10:29 PM
If the chair-head cannot set a two minute limit for comments in a public forum, you open the door to all sorts buffoonery.

By the way, that father's behavior was pure buffoonery-- terrible example as to how to go about handling disagreements over public policy.

Take away 25 years of maturity from him and you have a teenager that would probably have his head bashed in by polite cops just trying to do their job.

Jermyn Davidson
05-06-2014, 10:30 PM
LOL @ hitlerella!

n david
05-06-2014, 10:56 PM
He was arrested for behaving badly, not for speaking against the sexual book.
How was he behaving "badly?" He barely raised his voice! This man has a daughter who was forced to read this trash without he and his wife knowing about it. This man deserves a medal for restraint. I certainly would have been just as upset, if not moreso.

This father's attitude made me angry enough to want to tweak his handcuffs or pull up on his hands even just a little bit to purposefully cause more pain to him in hopes it would make him shut up.
I hope you never serve in law enforcement. Seriously. What you casually post is called police brutality.

By the way, that father's behavior was pure buffoonery-- terrible example as to how to go about handling disagreements over public policy.
How was it "pure buffoonery?" Was it that he dared to ask someone to read the letter they got in the mail from the school? Or was it that he objected to the issue at all? Should he have stopped when threatened? Probably. But to say it's pure buffoonery is a bit absurd.

You're not a parent, so you don't really have a clue. I do hope you get to be one someday, so you can understand the emotion this father was feeling.

:thumbsup

n david
05-06-2014, 11:08 PM
BTW, I thought the officer did his job well. He did his job and didn't escalate the situation with a bad attitude. Unfortunately, most officers escalate the situation by being a bully with a badge. They, like JD, think law enforcement is above laws and can do whatever they want to make the suspect bend to their will.

Jermyn Davidson
05-06-2014, 11:28 PM
BTW, I thought the officer did his job well. He did his job and didn't escalate the situation with a bad attitude. Unfortunately, most officers escalate the situation by being a bully with a badge. They, like JD, think law enforcement is above laws and can do whatever they want to make the suspect bend to their will.

"KNEEL BEFORE zOD!"

Jermyn Davidson
05-06-2014, 11:30 PM
BTW, I thought the officer did his job well. He did his job and didn't escalate the situation with a bad attitude. Unfortunately, most officers escalate the situation by being a bully with a badge. They, like JD, think law enforcement is above laws and can do whatever they want to make the suspect bend to their will.

Again, you are having a hard time keeping up with me. :nod

n david
05-06-2014, 11:34 PM
Again, you are having a hard time keeping up with me. :nod
How am I not keeping up with you?

This father's attitude made me angry enough to want to tweak his handcuffs or pull up on his hands even just a little bit to purposefully cause more pain to him in hopes it would make him shut up.

That's being a bully with a badge. That's police brutality. And yes, most officers who do that believe they're above the law and don't answer to anyone, certainly not some ordinary citizen Joe.

"I AM THE LAW."

Jermyn Davidson
05-06-2014, 11:43 PM
In this thread, I really am criticizing the father's actions, but I am also criticizing the actions of some law enforcement officers as well.

Take 15 or 20 years off of this gentleman and you take away his learned restraint.

However, his attitude and disrespect for authority is evident and is probably a reflection of the type of person he is.

In Florida, on the right night, under the right circumstances, take 15 or 20 years off this man and his attitude will almost ensure that he never lives to have children.

Then, there will just be lines and lines of conservatives to defend the law enforcement officer who decided to crack this rebel's skull.

jfrog
05-07-2014, 12:04 AM
LOL! At the end of the video the cop told him that he agreed with him.

Aquila
05-07-2014, 06:30 AM
Every time I've had a problem with my son's school, no matter what the issue was, a well worded letter to the teacher and the principle (with a copy prepped for the board of education) has gotten me nearly everything I wanted.

Dichotomy Girl
05-07-2014, 06:45 AM
Does anyone know what the title of the book in question was?

Jermyn Davidson
05-07-2014, 07:23 AM
Does anyone know what the title of the book in question was?

19 I think.

Ferd
05-07-2014, 11:38 AM
The guy is right to be upset. but there has always been a right way and a wrong way to be right.

He chose the wrong way and paid for it.

lets all be outraged that these kids are being subjected to this trash. but lets dont make a martyr of a guy looking to get shot.

Pressing-On
05-07-2014, 01:01 PM
Disgusting. And by that, I mostly mean the condescending, patronizing, controlling, tyrannical behavior of the board chairman and the cowardly silence of all the other board members. :foottap

One person commented on the Youtube video and said, "Need to investigate the school board to find out who the pedophile is." Um...I AGREE! Seriously, this is great material for starting off a Law and Order:SVU episode. :blink

The most telling component was that no one would read the book aloud, and yet they expected children to read it. I wonder if they read excerpts aloud in class?
This reminds me of the time my mother typed out all the curse words from a book the school was having the children read and do a report on.

She stood in front of the School Board and started reading the list of curse words. They said, "Mrs. *******, You can't say those words here!"

She responded, "Why not? You are forcing the school children to read it."

Way to go, MOM! :thumbsup

ILG
05-07-2014, 01:46 PM
I thought the Dad seemed a little out of line, but having him arrested was way out of line. It will be interesting to see what comes of this. And they really didn't give him much time to make his case. They acted like ho hum, who cares, NEXT!

Ferd
05-07-2014, 01:48 PM
This reminds me of the time my mother typed out all the curse words from a book the school was having the children read and do a report on.

She stood in front of the School Board and started reading the list of curse words. They said, "Mrs. *******, You can't say those words here!"

She responded, "Why not? You are forcing the school children to read it."

Way to go, MOM! :thumbsup

Thats what I would have done here. I would have spent my 2 minutes reading the offending sex scenes to the schoolboard. I would have had additional individuals ready to take their 2 minutes to continue that and go as long as possible to get the point accross....

He gave the School board grounds to dismiss his concerns by behaving outside the established rules. I agree with him 100% but method is as important as message.

Brad Murphy
05-07-2014, 02:17 PM
Wow, arrested for breaking the two minute rule... I've had conference calls at work with more threatening behavior... I don't see anything appalling about the man's behavior, if anything, he was cooperating perfectly with the police officer throughout the entire process. Hopefully he pulls his kids out of that school and finds somewhere else for them to go.

ILG
05-07-2014, 02:49 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/06/new-hampshire-school-defends-sexually-graphic-novel/

ILG
05-07-2014, 02:53 PM
I guess when you live in a porn saturated world, people think it's no big deal for 9th graders to be assigned to read erotica by their teachers.

Pressing-On
05-07-2014, 02:58 PM
Thats what I would have done here. I would have spent my 2 minutes reading the offending sex scenes to the schoolboard. I would have had additional individuals ready to take their 2 minutes to continue that and go as long as possible to get the point accross....

He gave the School board grounds to dismiss his concerns by behaving outside the established rules. I agree with him 100% but method is as important as message.

I didn't think the guy was all that over the top with his actions. However, being an attorney, it seemed he would have had a better plan.

Obviously, my mother had a better plan. When it was her turn to speak, she just stood up and started cursing like a boss! J/K! :heeheehee

Pressing-On
05-07-2014, 03:02 PM
I guess when you live in a porn saturated world, people think it's no big deal for 9th graders to be assigned to read erotica by their teachers.

It's disappointing how sick and dangerous our world is getting.

ILG
05-07-2014, 03:15 PM
I didn't think the guy was all that over the top with his actions. However, being an attorney, it seemed he would have had a better plan.

Obviously, my mother had a better plan. When it was her turn to speak, she just stood up and started cursing like a boss! J/K! :heeheehee

Maybe he is getting exactly what he wanted. National attention...

Pressing-On
05-07-2014, 03:37 PM
Maybe he is getting exactly what he wanted. National attention...

I would wonder who the film guy was. It looks like he anticipated a dust up. So, you might be right. It could have been preplanned. Maybe not so much for himself, but what the school was doing. Maybe they thought they needed to bring that to national attention and found a way to do it.

ILG
05-07-2014, 03:49 PM
I would wonder who the film guy was. It looks like he anticipated a dust up. So, you might be right. It could have been preplanned. Maybe not so much for himself, but what the school was doing. Maybe they thought they needed to bring that to national attention and found a way to do it.

Well the school board walked right into that one if that is what he wanted.

MissBrattified
05-08-2014, 12:04 PM
This reminds me of the time my mother typed out all the curse words from a book the school was having the children read and do a report on.

She stood in front of the School Board and started reading the list of curse words. They said, "Mrs. *******, You can't say those words here!"

She responded, "Why not? You are forcing the school children to read it."

Way to go, MOM! :thumbsup

That is EXCELLENT! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Ferd
05-08-2014, 12:27 PM
I would wonder who the film guy was. It looks like he anticipated a dust up. So, you might be right. It could have been preplanned. Maybe not so much for himself, but what the school was doing. Maybe they thought they needed to bring that to national attention and found a way to do it.

I bet this has a lot to do with it. Looks like it worked.


I wonder what the outcome is now?

Pressing-On
05-08-2014, 12:53 PM
I bet this has a lot to do with it. Looks like it worked.


I wonder what the outcome is now?

I am understanding that the book has been withdrawn. He is also new to the area, so it may have helped him garner some business. Shows he is not afraid and perfect to be an attorney. I'm thinking they will want him to run for local office next. LOL!

Pressing-On
05-08-2014, 01:05 PM
That is EXCELLENT! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
She sure has some glory days, that's for sure. LOL!

The Editor of the local paper told her that she was "censoring" material. I personally know the woman and she is a total liberal.

Anyway, my mother stated that she was mistaken as censoring (exam and expurgate) is when material can't be "published" anywhere, such as the censoring that Hilter imposed.

She went on to say that the school district had the moral right to exam any material presented to minors. They, for instance, wouldn't put a Playboy magazine in the library.

The Editor told her to sit down and be quiet. LOL!

And, BTW, my mother is very petite and has a very soft voice. She is the epitome of a Southern Belle. So, you can imagine how she, just speaking those curse words, put them all to shame. You can't imagine such a lady saying those things. It was to great effect! :thumbsup

BrotherEastman
05-08-2014, 03:12 PM
He was arrested for behaving badly, not for speaking against the sexual book.

The excerpt in question is disgusting and I would be very upset that this book was distributed as mandatory reading for a high school class.

Had this father been a teenager, we would be glad to see that teenager made to show respect for law enforcement officers as he is thrown to the ground for running his exhaust pipe.

This father's attitude made me angry enough to want to tweak his handcuffs or pull up on his hands even just a little bit to purposefully cause more pain to him in hopes it would make him shut up.

This father definitely had the attitude of a rotten teenager, but the restraint that comes with maturity so instead of getting his head bashed in by the police officer, we get to continue to hear his nauseating voice.


Moral: Don't be too quick to blame the teenager when he is bashed by law enforcement.
So you are against a man for freedom of speech? I get it.

Pressing-On
05-08-2014, 04:39 PM
So you are against a man for freedom of speech? I get it.

Jermyn's comments, especially in bold, are not surprising considering he has openly admitted he would fire on American citizens as part of a military exercise.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
He was arrested for behaving badly, not for speaking against the sexual book.

The excerpt in question is disgusting and I would be very upset that this book was distributed as mandatory reading for a high school class.

Had this father been a teenager, we would be glad to see that teenager made to show respect for law enforcement officers as he is thrown to the ground for running his exhaust pipe.

This father's attitude made me angry enough to want to tweak his handcuffs or pull up on his hands even just a little bit to purposefully cause more pain to him in hopes it would make him shut up.

This father definitely had the attitude of a rotten teenager, but the restraint that comes with maturity so instead of getting his head bashed in by the police officer, we get to continue to hear his nauseating voice.


Moral: Don't be too quick to blame the teenager when he is bashed by law enforcement.

Praxeas
05-08-2014, 06:22 PM
Every time I've had a problem with my son's school, no matter what the issue was, a well worded letter to the teacher and the principle (with a copy prepped for the board of education) has gotten me nearly everything I wanted.
I wonder if that will work for me.

Praxeas
05-08-2014, 06:23 PM
Thats what I would have done here. I would have spent my 2 minutes reading the offending sex scenes to the schoolboard. I would have had additional individuals ready to take their 2 minutes to continue that and go as long as possible to get the point accross....

He gave the School board grounds to dismiss his concerns by behaving outside the established rules. I agree with him 100% but method is as important as message.

Right. Just read it and see if their faces turn red...nuff said

mfblume
05-09-2014, 08:03 PM
Aside from the filthy book to 14 year olds, HE WAS ARRESTED FOR BREAKING THE TWO MINUTE RULE!!!!???? Arrested by POLICE???? Is your country serious?

jfrog
05-10-2014, 12:07 AM
Aside from the filthy book to 14 year olds, HE WAS ARRESTED FOR BREAKING THE TWO MINUTE RULE!!!!???? Arrested by POLICE???? Is your country serious?

Exaggerations are bad. He was arrested for refusing to leave after being asked to. In fact the police officer asked him to leave and he refused and told the officer that he would have to arrest him.

BrotherEastman
05-10-2014, 10:36 AM
Aside from the filthy book to 14 year olds, HE WAS ARRESTED FOR BREAKING THE TWO MINUTE RULE!!!!???? Arrested by POLICE???? Is your country serious?

Unfortunately our country is serious about stupid things.

ILG
05-10-2014, 10:53 AM
Exaggerations are bad. He was arrested for refusing to leave after being asked to. In fact the police officer asked him to leave and he refused and told the officer that he would have to arrest him.

He did push it. He was a bit out of line. But, good grief, having him arrested for what he did? That seems extreme. Especially after they forced his daughter to read erotica without his permission.

Technically, he was wrong for pushing it. And he did overstep his bounds as far as the rule was concerned. However, when is it okay to break the rule a teensy bit? In my opinion, I would not have done what he did, but I don't feel it was worth being arrested over. I even find something a little admirable about it.

KeptByTheWord
05-10-2014, 11:15 AM
I agree. I felt that the man could have handled the situation better, and certainly he should not have "asked" to read an excerpt, he should have just started off reading it, and then asked, why are our kids reading this. PO's Mom had the right idea!

I don't think he should have been arrested, just removed from the room.

mfblume
05-10-2014, 02:03 PM
Exaggerations are bad. He was arrested for refusing to leave after being asked to. In fact the police officer asked him to leave and he refused and told the officer that he would have to arrest him.

He told the officer that he had to be arrested before he would leave, showing how silly the situation was to warrant an arrest. It mocked the police and they were dumb enough to follow through. Give me a break.

If the cop had any brains he would have said he was not going to arrest the guy, but deal with him in a way that would calm things down aside from an arrest. My goodness!

Jermyn Davidson
05-10-2014, 08:34 PM
So you are against a man for freedom of speech? I get it.

Jermyn's comments, especially in bold, are not surprising considering he has openly admitted he would fire on American citizens as part of a military exercise.

I am not against his practice of freedom of speech. I am against his attitude.

What you guys are missing is that had this guy been a teenager with the same attitude he displayed, the cops (because he would have called for back-up) would have slammed the kid to the ground and cracked his skull for resisting and.or being a public nuissance and a disturber of the peace.

My posts were attacking the content of the book, the behavior of this smart-aleck father, and the behavior of cops toward youth.


Pressing-On,
Don't ever misquote me again.

Even if you get my quote right, make sure you include the context, or else, you're still misquoting me.

When you misquote me, you're lying.

You shouldn't tell lies.

Pressing-On
05-11-2014, 04:29 PM
Pressing-On,
Don't ever misquote me again.

Even if you get my quote right, make sure you include the context, or else, you're still misquoting me.

When you misquote me, you're lying.

You shouldn't tell lies.

LOL! So, you agree that I got your quote right. Your definition of "threat" is questionable, so your context is still up for evaluation.

MissBrattified
05-11-2014, 10:49 PM
...Pressing-On,
Don't ever misquote me again.

Even if you get my quote right, make sure you include the context, or else, you're still misquoting me.

When you misquote me, you're lying.

You shouldn't tell lies.

Jermyn? :blink Seriously? PO quoted your entire post, so she not only quoted you 100% correctly, she DID include context.

FTR, though, posts are not required to be quoted in entirety, and it's okay for people to respond to small snippets that catch their attention. Lying would be typing in something that the original poster didn't actually say, or maybe scrambling the sentences to change the context (I've never really seen anyone do that). If someone gets your context wrong, then you can let them know that isn't what you meant. That's part of discussion.

I'm not sure why there's a bee in your bonnet over PO commenting on your post, but she certainly did NOT misquote you.