Is Don Moen Apostolic?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Is Christian Praise and Worship Artist Don Moen of the Apostolic persuasion?

I am told he and his family live and attend church in Nashville.

[ixoye_val69]

Is Christian Praise and Worship Artist Don Moen of the Apostolic persuasion?

I am told he and his family live and attend church in Nashville.


Not unless he has changed over the years. In one of his songs called "All Creatures Of Our God And King" there is a verse that goes...

Let all things their Creator bless,
And worship Him in humbleness,
O praise Him! Alleluia!
Praise, praise the Father, praise the Son,
And praise the Spirit, Three in One!

He also sings "Holy Holy Holy"... one of the verses is...

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee.
Holy, holy, holy! Merciful and mighty,
God in three persons, blessed Trinity!

[nahkoe]

Is Christian Praise and Worship Artist Don Moen of the Apostolic persuasion?

I am told he and his family live and attend church in Nashville.

When I watched lectures of his for a class, it didn't seem so. Totally, completely devoted to God and enthralled with worshiping Him, absolutely!

[CC1]

Not unless he has changed over the years. In one of his songs called "All Creatures Of Our God And King" there is a verse that goes...

Let all things their Creator bless,
And worship Him in humbleness,
O praise Him! Alleluia!
Praise, praise the Father, praise the Son,
And praise the Spirit, Three in One!

He also sings "Holy Holy Holy"... one of the verses is...

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee.
Holy, holy, holy! Merciful and mighty,
God in three persons, blessed Trinity!

So you don't believe the lyrics that state the Father Son and Spirit are three in one? I thought that was the core of old time Oneness Pentecostal belief.

[ixoye_val69]

So you don't believe the lyrics that state the Father Son and Spirit are three in one? I thought that was the core of old time Oneness Pentecostal belief.

This has nothing to do with what I believe or not. I was just answering a question. Moen mentions the trinity...isn't that against what the apostolics believe? At least according to all the posts in previous threads that is the impression I got.. all the talk about "trinnies" (so they are referred as) and such

[houston]

I believe in the trinity.

[houston]

Jus sayin

[ixoye_val69]

I just want to say...before anyone starts accusing me of attacking the trinity, I want to post here what I wrote in my introduction when I first joined. I don't think many bothering reading the intros of the new members so this is what i wrote...

"I have mostly gone to Trinitarian churches all my life. I never really went around calling myself a Trinitarian. I don't like labels and to be honest I was never really good at explaining it anyway. I believe as the Bible says that there is one God (even if I do not 100% know how it all works). The Bible says it so I believe it. I believe that Jesus is God according to John 1:1 and John 1:14. I love God with all my heart and like I said, I do not completely understand how the Godhead works but I look at it this way....when I get to heaven and if the only one there is Jesus embodying all who God is...then praise Him! When I get to heaven and if I see the Father on the throne and Jesus at His side and the Holy Spirit above them... well praise Him! LOL "

So there you have it.. many will call me a trinitarian but like I said, the Godhead is something that I am still reading, studying and praying about. Do I believe Jesus is God? absolutely.. do I believe the Father is God? of course!! Do I believe the Holy Spirit is God? without a doubt! Do I believe Jesus is the Father? Well that is what I am praying about because that is not as clear to me (I have read all of the verses that were presented in defense of this belief). As I said...I believe all 3 are God, yet I believe there is only one God...that is the part that is hard to explain to people yet I believe it with all my heart. Will I ever fully understand how the Godhead works? I do not know and to be honest I am not sure I am required to 100% understand it.

I hope this helps..although I have read enough posts even before joining this forum to know that anything can turn into a debate so something else that I wrote here may set off a whole other discussion. I hope not though. It is not my intention to offend anyone. I believe we are all at different points in our walk with Jesus..some are more knowledgeable about certain verses than others, but I believe that each walk is personal and is not for anyone else to judge.

By the way...when I answered the question to the original poster, I supposed that when he asked if Moen was Apostolic, I assumed he was referring to Oneness which is why I answered the way I did.

[houston]

Welcome, my trinitarian sister.

[ixoye_val69]

Welcome, my trinitarian sister.

Thank you...I think.. LOL anyway sorry for the long explanation. I have had people accuse me of believing in 3 Gods which I absolutely do not. I just wanted to let it be known what I believe and my inability to explain it makes it more frustrating. LOL

[houston]

Thank you...I think.. LOL anyway sorry for the long explanation. I have had people accuse me of believing in 3 Gods which I absolutely do not. I just wanted to let it be known what I believe and my inability to explain it makes it more frustrating. LOLyou explained it well enough.

I don't know anyone that believes in 3 gods.

[ixoye_val69]

you explained it well enough.

I don't know anyone that believes in 3 gods.

Me either...but it doesn't keep people from thinking that way when they do not understand what Trinitarian is.. Or I have heard people being accused of believing in a 3 headed God. smh. LOL

[Michael The Disciple]

Me either...but it doesn't keep people from thinking that way when they do not understand what Trinitarian is.. Or I have heard people being accused of believing in a 3 headed God. smh. LOL

I understand what the classic Trinitarian view is.

There exists three co equal co eternal persons within the one God. Each one of the persons is distinct from the other. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each person is God.

I am not accusing you of being a Trinitarian. Im glad you are studying it. The definition given by Trinitarians themselves is the reason many see three Gods in their faith.

[Dante]

What does it matter if he carries the label Apostolic? He's a Christian, and that should be all that matters.

[Michael The Disciple]

What does it matter if he carries the label Apostolic? He's a Christian, and that should be all that matters.

Well the person who asked the question wanted to know. And yet are we a Christians because we say we are? Or is there criteria to be met?

Are the Jehovah Witnesses Christians? If not why?

[ixoye_val69]

I understand what the classic Trinitarian view is.

There exists three co equal co eternal persons within the one God. Each one of the persons is distinct from the other. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each person is God.

I am not accusing you of being a Trinitarian. Im glad you are studying it. The definition given by Trinitarians themselves is the reason many see three Gods in their faith.

I totally see your point...and I honestly think it stems from people not understanding enough to actually explain it (I being one of them). I have read statements of faith on different Trinitarian websites and the explanations even vary among them. That is what led me to start searching and praying about it myself. I do not feel comfortable saying "This is what I believe because it is what my home church says to believe". I really want to study the Word and have God reveal it to me personally. I am not ashamed to say I do not understand it 100%. I do however believe there is one God and I believe that Jesus is God.

If what I am saying makes it appear that I am playing both sides of the fence, forgive me, because that is not my intention. If my beliefs lean me more towards being Trinitarian, that's ok with me because like I said, I don't like labels. I think it is more important to believe the word of God and let God be the one who molds our beliefs..not man. I thank all of you who are not attacking me or judging me while I am..how do people put it.. soul searching. :)

[ixoye_val69]

What does it matter if he carries the label Apostolic? He's a Christian, and that should be all that matters.

To me personally it does not matter. I enjoy his music and have several of his CD's. It is obvious he has a heart for God. I guess to some Apostolics it matters because they do not want to expose themselves to doctrines that they do not believe in...and that is ok also. Even if someone professes to be Christian I think it is important to compare what they say (or what they sing) to the word of God.

[FlamingZword]

Well the person who asked the question wanted to know. And yet are we a Christians because we say we are? Or is there criteria to be met?

Are the Jehovah Witnesses Christians? If not why?

Plenty of con artists call themselves honest to anyone who will listen to them, but all their words are meaningless for crooks lie so people will drop their guard and trust them, that is why they are called confidence men.

Plenty of people who call themselves Christians are not.

[n david]

I understand what the classic Trinitarian view is.

There exists three co equal co eternal persons within the one God. Each one of the persons is distinct from the other. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Each person is God.

I am not accusing you of being a Trinitarian. Im glad you are studying it. The definition given by Trinitarians themselves is the reason many see three Gods in their faith.
"Therefore I said unto you that ye shall die in your sins, for if ye do not believe that I AM, ye shall die in your sins." John 8:24

Reading through the Bible, personally I cannot find any support for a trinity.

[Ferd]

you explained it well enough.

I don't know anyone that believes in 3 gods.

the dude that wrote the book God is Real believes at least one of them is blue.

[houston]

the dude that wrote the book God is Real believes at least one of them is blue.y luego?

[Michael The Disciple]

Don't get me wrong. Im glad when anyone worships the Lord in the sincerity they know. I personally was among the Trinitarian groups the first 6 years of my walk. I certainly saw sincere believers among them. I was myself.

My favorite musicians are probably all Trins.

[Jermyn Davidson]

So who's church in the Nashville area does Don Moen attend? Someone has gotta know!

[ixoye_val69]

So who's church in the Nashville area does Don Moen attend? Someone has gotta know!

I'm curious to know also...I mean he travels so much (right now he is in Israel). Makes you wonder if he has time to attend a home church. I have tried searching for this information but I'm thinking it is kept quiet on purpose perhaps. You should ask this question in other places also because there has to be someone out there who attends the same church he does. :)

[nahkoe]

I'm curious to know also...I mean he travels so much (right now he is in Israel). Makes you wonder if he has time to attend a home church. I have tried searching for this information but I'm thinking it is kept quiet on purpose perhaps. You should ask this question in other places also because there has to be someone out there who attends the same church he does. :)

I'd have to go back and watch the videos I have to find out if he mentions where or what the name of his church is, but he does speak of a home church and of being solidly planted in it. The class I took was on worship, and every speaker/instructor emphasized the importance of having a home church even if, especially if, you find yourself traveling a lot.

[ixoye_val69]

I'd have to go back and watch the videos I have to find out if he mentions where or what the name of his church is, but he does speak of a home church and of being solidly planted in it. The class I took was on worship, and every speaker/instructor emphasized the importance of having a home church even if, especially if, you find yourself traveling a lot.

Oh I have no doubt he actually has one. And you are right..it is very important. I am sure people who live their lives leading others into worship, teaching, etc would get physically, mentally and spiritually worn out without it.