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Praxeas
07-17-2007, 09:43 PM
What purpose does music serve? Is all music supposed to be "praise God praise God" line after line?
Music is for dancing. Dancing looks just plain silly without it!
RevDWW
07-17-2007, 10:29 PM
It's there to sooth the savage beast............
It's there to sooth the savage beast............
I believe you are confusing music with food.:winkgrin
Praxeas
07-18-2007, 02:03 AM
In a church service...is all music supposed to be just saying "praise God, God is great" in several different ways? The bible speaks of edifying each other. Why can't some songs be songs that edify us and make us want to pray more etc etc or even teach doctrine?
Monkeyman
07-18-2007, 03:38 AM
In a church service...is all music supposed to be just saying "praise God, God is great" in several different ways? The bible speaks of edifying each other. Why can't some songs be songs that edify us and make us want to pray more etc etc or even teach doctrine?Instructions for those who say "only". Take your little box, open it, and release...there there, feel better? Why do we small minded creatures always try to pigeonhole God?
:choir
Brother Strange
07-18-2007, 04:16 AM
What purpose does music serve? Is all music supposed to be "praise God praise God" line after line?
Music is the language of the (or a) spirit communicating with the soul. Give me the music and I will lead the people in any direction that I desire. The deposed choir leader in heaven jealously seeks to become the music director of the church. It appears that he is gradually accomplishing his end goal.
Monkeyman
07-18-2007, 04:21 AM
Music is the language of the (or a) spirit communicating with the soul. Give me the music and I will lead the people in any direction that I desire. The deposed choir leader in heaven jealously seeks to become the music director of the church. It appears that he is gradually accomplishing his end goal.Just when you get me back in your corner with your great historical posts about past church leaders, you throw another DUMB post out there, grrrrr!!:slaphappy Oh, well, you still b cool in my book.
When we meet in heaven, we need to teach each other some songs!
Brother Strange
07-18-2007, 05:14 AM
Just when you get me back in your corner with your great historical posts about past church leaders, you throw another DUMB post out there, grrrrr!!:slaphappy Oh, well, you still b cool in my book.
When we meet in heaven, we need to teach each other some songs!
:slaphappy
Monkeyman
07-18-2007, 05:37 AM
I promise NOT to chant, if you promise to leave the fiddle down on earth!! Heeeeee!
Music is the language of the (or a) spirit communicating with the soul. Give me the music and I will lead the people in any direction that I desire. The deposed choir leader in heaven jealously seeks to become the music director of the church. It appears that he is gradually accomplishing his end goal.
Jimi Hendrix said something to this affect.
COOPER
07-18-2007, 06:47 AM
What purpose does music serve? Is all music supposed to be "praise God praise God" line after line?
Music......
Well for one.....the Songs of Solomon do not all praise God.
Mostly about his love for a woman.
And if anyone feels that music should only be a God thing...then
:igotitDo not sing Jingle bells at Christmas ....its a sin.
Or do not sing Happy Birthday to your kids.....you would not be singing for God.
COOPER
07-18-2007, 06:49 AM
I promise NOT to chant, if you promise to leave the fiddle down on earth!! Heeeeee!
Oreo e-yo-oh , oreo e-yo-oh, oreo e-yo-oh.....:choir
In a church service...is all music supposed to be just saying "praise God, God is great" in several different ways? The bible speaks of edifying each other. Why can't some songs be songs that edify us and make us want to pray more etc etc or even teach doctrine?Music (which you're confusing with lyrics) is merely a tool used in facilitating praise to God. I have a problem with songs that "edify us" because that time isn't about us, it's about God. Besides, we're supposed to edify one another, not ourselves and there's nothing in scripture that says the songs we sing are supposed to edify ourselves.
Notice Colossians 3:16, "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." Of course, some have suggested the passage should contain the comma after "another" instead of after "songs."
Then there's Ephesians 5:19-20, "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
Brother Strange
07-18-2007, 01:42 PM
Jimi Hendrix said something to this affect.
Who is Jimi Hendrix?
Brother Strange
07-18-2007, 01:46 PM
Music......
Well for one.....the Songs of Solomon do not all praise God.
Mostly about his love for a woman.
And if anyone feels that music should only be a God thing...then
:igotitDo not sing Jingle bells at Christmas ....its a sin.
Or do not sing Happy Birthday to your kids.....you would not be singing for God.
I don't know anyone who thinks like that.
Certainly I sing Jingle Bells and birthday songs too. In fact, I sing to my wife quite frequently. Not too long ago, I sung to her with deep, deep feeling, "You Were Always on my Mind."
COOPER
07-18-2007, 01:47 PM
I don't know anyone who thinks like that.
Certainly I sing Jingle Bells and birthday songs too. In fact, I sing to my wife quite frequently. Not too long ago, I sung to her with deep, deep feeling, "You Were Always on my Mind."
Your pretty Cool!
Pressing-On
07-18-2007, 02:29 PM
It's there to sooth the savage beast............
That's what I need it for! :killinme:killinme
Pressing-On
07-18-2007, 02:32 PM
I don't know anyone who thinks like that.
Certainly I sing Jingle Bells and birthday songs too. In fact, I sing to my wife quite frequently. Not too long ago, I sung to her with deep, deep feeling, "You Were Always on my Mind."
I love that song!
Glad I never had to hear, "Happy Birthday, Baby". :killinme
Praxeas
07-18-2007, 08:08 PM
Music is the language of the (or a) spirit communicating with the soul. Give me the music and I will lead the people in any direction that I desire. The deposed choir leader in heaven jealously seeks to become the music director of the church. It appears that he is gradually accomplishing his end goal.
Well BACK to the actual topic. What is the PURPOSE of it? Is it ONLY to be praises to God directly? As I was saying before...the bible speaks of doing things to edify one another. The Psalms are not only filled with Praises directly to God, they are filled with instructions, doctrinal instructions and edifications to us
Col 3:16 Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Praxeas
07-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Music (which you're confusing with lyrics) is merely a tool used in facilitating praise to God. I have a problem with songs that "edify us" because that time isn't about us, it's about God. Besides, we're supposed to edify one another, not ourselves and there's nothing in scripture that says the songs we sing are supposed to edify ourselves.
Notice Colossians 3:16, "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." Of course, some have suggested the passage should contain the comma after "another" instead of after "songs."
Then there's Ephesians 5:19-20, "Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ."
It's amazing how many people don't realize the voice is a musical instrument. Ok, for those nit pickers SONGS...Does songs include both "music" and "Lyrics"?
At least though, once you got past the initial natural inclination to be irrelevant, you were relevant to the topic :-) Thank you...which was more than anyone else here did btw :slaphappy
Brother Strange
07-18-2007, 08:27 PM
I love that song!
Glad I never had to hear, "Happy Birthday, Baby". :killinme
Happy, happy birthday baby is not the most romantic song that can be sung to you...especially when you are 39 and holding.
:slaphappy
RandyWayne
07-18-2007, 08:31 PM
We personally like the song Rhythm Divine, by Enrique Iglesias. Especially during a nice dinner with candle light and, mmmmmmm, that "stuff" made with grapes.
Brother Strange
07-18-2007, 08:35 PM
Well BACK to the actual topic. What is the PURPOSE of it? Is it ONLY to be praises to God directly? As I was saying before...the bible speaks of doing things to edify one another. The Psalms are not only filled with Praises directly to God, they are filled with instructions, doctrinal instructions and edifications to us
Col 3:16 Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
The purpose of music is to communicate. It is a language all its own. Yes, you can communicate with music in praise, in prophetic sounds as well as edify.
In the scripture that you quoted above...it clearly states that one is taugh and admonished in psalms, huymns and spiritual songs. It communicates. It teaches. It edifies. It admonishes. It is prophetic. I've seen it bring rebuke. I've been in meetings a few times that a Holy Ghost anointed musician would transcend his natural ability, go into a realm that it was no longer him either singing or playing. That is when angels give expression through that singer or musician.
Have you ever heard the heavenly choir? I have. If you ever hear it, you will never forget it though you live a million years.
Praxeas
07-19-2007, 04:04 PM
The purpose of music is to communicate. It is a language all its own. Yes, you can communicate with music in praise, in prophetic sounds as well as edify.
In the scripture that you quoted above...it clearly states that one is taugh and admonished in psalms, huymns and spiritual songs. It communicates. It teaches. It edifies. It admonishes. It is prophetic. I've seen it bring rebuke. I've been in meetings a few times that a Holy Ghost anointed musician would transcend his natural ability, go into a realm that it was no longer him either singing or playing. That is when angels give expression through that singer or musician.
Have you ever heard the heavenly choir? I have. If you ever hear it, you will never forget it though you live a million years.
Exactly, songs in church services serve several purposes, not just one
philjones
07-19-2007, 04:14 PM
I love that song!
Glad I never had to hear, "Happy Birthday, Baby". :killinme
Conway just rolled over in his grave. It is Happy birthday DAHLIN.. no gifts no fancy cakes but i hope I make you happy with every thang I take!:slaphappy:slaphappy
philjones
07-19-2007, 04:15 PM
It's amazing how many people don't realize the voice is a musical instrument. Ok, for those nit pickers SONGS...Does songs include both "music" and "Lyrics"?
At least though, once you got past the initial natural inclination to be irrelevant, you were relevant to the topic :-) Thank you...which was more than anyone else here did btw :slaphappy
Not if you are a conservative Church of Christ pastor or saint.:killinme
Brother Strange
07-19-2007, 04:18 PM
Exactly, songs in church services serve several purposes, not just one
One great musician that occasionally post on this forum once told me that when he was in the world, living a very wicked life that he had a band that traveled with him and performed gigs in many well known establishments including the Las Vegas circle.
He said that there were times that he and the band would decide to start a riot in a honkey tonk. They would switch into a certain sound. Before long, a fight would break out and then pretty soon a riot. They were able to manipulate those people by their sound.
Once my son was listening to a certain piece of music. I told him to turn it off. There is the sound of fornication communicated through music. There is gay and lesbian sounds communicated through music. There are also sounds that expand the intellect. Then, there is the sanctified music that is currently undergoing a metamorphosis that good church folk do not realize what is going on. But, if you say anything about it. You get a great bit HA HA HA HA HA....belly laugh out of them.
Praxeas
07-19-2007, 04:37 PM
One great musician that occasionally post on this forum once told me that when he was in the world, living a very wicked life that he had a band that traveled with him and performed gigs in many well known establishments including the Las Vegas circle.
He said that there were times that he and the band would decide to start a riot in a honkey tonk. They would switch into a certain sound. Before long, a fight would break out and then pretty soon a riot. They were able to manipulate those people by their sound.
Once my son was listening to a certain piece of music. I told him to turn it off. There is the sound of fornication communicated through music. There is gay and lesbian sounds communicated through music. There are also sounds that expand the intellect. Then, there is the sanctified music that is currently undergoing a metamorphosis that good church folk do not realize what is going on. But, if you say anything about it. You get a great bit HA HA HA HA HA....belly laugh out of them.
Brother you're still posting on a different subject. The point I am trying to get across is not every SONG or all the LYRICS of a song have to be praises to God, but they can also be words or songs with lyrics that edify us or teach doctrine, so that we can personally be better worshipers of Him
Brother Strange
07-19-2007, 04:43 PM
Brother you're still posting on a different subject. The point I am trying to get across is not every SONG or all the LYRICS of a song have to be praises to God, but they can also be words or songs with lyrics that edify us or teach doctrine, so that we can personally be better worshipers of Him
Oh, OK.... I agree.
Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast.
:choir
Praxeas
07-19-2007, 04:45 PM
lol
It's amazing how many people don't realize the voice is a musical instrument. Ok, for those nit pickers SONGS...Does songs include both "music" and "Lyrics"?I don't accept the notion of the voice being a musical instrument. I intentionally differentiated between music and songs. Do songs include both "music" and "lyrics"? Yes, but you were confusing music with lyrics. Music is merely a tool but lyrics communicate a message.
At least though, once you got past the initial natural inclination to be irrelevant, you were relevant to the topic :-) Thank you...which was more than anyone else here did btw :slaphappyThe differentiating between music and lyrics is not irrelevant.
Praxeas
07-21-2007, 11:09 AM
I don't accept the notion of the voice being a musical instrument. I intentionally differentiated between music and songs. Do songs include both "music" and "lyrics"? Yes, but you were confusing music with lyrics. Music is merely a tool but lyrics communicate a message.
The differentiating between music and lyrics is not irrelevant.
It's irrelevant to the topic. Sheeeeesh. You truely do march to the beat of your own drum Chan :slaphappy
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