Banning Kids
 

So we know that the restaurant in Pennsylvania placed a ban on kids under 6. In this ABC.com article, we see that an airline recently banned kids in their first class, and we already have plenty of kid-free resorts, and even I've heard talk about kid-free beaches!

A lot of folks are offended, a lot think it was a great move. What do you think? Do kids annoy you in public places to the point that you find yourself wishing they weren't allowed? Do you think it's rude to ban kids from public places? Would you continue to patronize a business that banned children?

Sound off...

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If my kids weren't welcome, neither was I.

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Restaurants, resorts, and other privately owned business are not public places. It may not be good business practice to ban kids in many cases, but they have the right. As an example we have been taking vacations to "kid free" resorts through both Apple and Sandals and it is wonderful!

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maybe they want adult places with sin???????
Kids make most people behave.
public places should be open to everybody.
private places are different because they may be a place of sin.
No kids allowed, no me.
why??????
well if it is not fit for kids why would I, an adult go??????
No kids allowed then it is a place of sin as far as I am concerned. :foottap

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Because it is not appropriate for your 4 year old son or daughter it is a sin? Do you read from the Songs of Solomon when they were/are that age? Or do you skip over the, as Monty Python would say, the naughty bits? Is it appropriate for young children to attend classes meant for young adults when teaching on human sexuality? Or is THAT all a sin because little 5 year Suzie should not be there, thus is a sin for all?

Do you also think that all vacation resorts need to be open to children of all ages?

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lol, wow, ummm ok .


so anyway. As Randy has stated if they are private establishments then they have that right. Personally there times me and my wife will take a much needed weekend (having 3 girls) to ourselves. So yeah, when your trying to get a way from hollaring, screaming, fighting, arguing and the constant, "mine, mine, mine" then thats the last thing you want to hear.

Its not about sin, its about offering services to those who may want to get away and have some peace and quiet. If what happens between a married couple due to the sudden engulfing of tranquility is sin............ then we're all in trouble.

Yes. Ban kids. Nothing ruins my evening more than misbehaving kids in a restaurant. If Jack wasn't there to calm me down I'd probably punch the parents.

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Not quite. For instance, some places are just for the mature crowd. Does not denote sinful places. If you love the beach, and either have no children or have finished raising your children, you might just want some quiet time on the beach... with a good book and a picnic basket. Can't really enjoy the peace and serenity of the beach when there are noisy kids running, kicking sand, splashing water, whining, crying, screaming, giggling, begging, tattling, etc. Or some may not want to pay good money to have an experience ruined by kids - even if they're not bad kids. Like dining at a restaurant that didn't allow kids, sunbathing on a beach that didn't allow kids, and who on earth wouldn't prefer an airplane that didn't allow kids?

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LOL

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There was a restaurant that my husband and I frequented when our children were small and when we went.....they weren't invited! They got to go for their 18th birthday! Let's face it...it's hard on a 2 year old to sit quietly in a nice, upscale restaurant for an hour or more.

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chances are if the kids cant go we dont need to be there.

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Exactly. It's just as hard on the kids as it is on the adults!

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Forbid not the little children...

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Maybe because you HATE walking on peanut shells. Crisp white linens, excellent service, and food you dream about later...thats what I love!

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Hello???!!!! Where on earth are some of you going with your minds? No kids = peace and quiet. I LOVE my kids, but sometimes I need time away with just my husband, and having a screaming toddler next to me in a restaurant or teenagers yelling and hitting the walls in the hotel room next to ours is NOT relaxing.

To me, no kids = relaxation. Sometimes we take family trips and vacations, and other times its just for my husband and me. When its the latter, I appreciate places that are kid-free.

It's so weird that some of you can only think of sinful reasons to have kids out of the picture. :blink

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:thumbsup

Until reading some of these comments, my mind never even considered that. Wow.

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I'm going to have to agree with the wisdom of Miss Brattified.

I have a very active, adorable 4 y/o girl. There are places I would never take her because neither she nor the other patrons would enjoy it if I did. Because not all people have the common sense I have, I have no problem with establishments banning children.

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Thank you . Geezz, minds out of the gutter people. :thumbsup

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and if you think kids make people behave....obviously you havent been to some of the same places or seen some of the things I have....if some people want to do something they have no problem dragging their kids through the gutter.But yeah...kudos for them...

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That must mean that you also refuse to read many threads on AFF.

:icecream

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nicely put in a nutshell. I agree:highfive

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Why do you make so much sense? lol:thumbsup

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I think I understand it.

In Paris we were refused service in a high end restaurant because we had a one year old with us. I was surprised but I did understand the policy.

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I hate flying but the two times i did because i had to, ended with me wishing they were not only banned , but tossed, on those flights. :) They were alone and absolutely out of control, the flight attendant was like, oh honey, dont paint your face ,mommy wont be happy ,and a couple of us passengers are going, can we paint their little mugs?

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I agree with RandyWayne.

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:girlytantrum

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I did get a laugh that some of you twisted my words around. I was trying to be nice and not be lewd about what I meant.But it went over some of your heads.
There is nothing wrong with getting away for a week end. I was questioning the moral effects of banning children. jesus never banned children!!!!!
When the dicsples sent the children away jesus rebuked the 12.
I also noticed that a few of you added words to my statement.
Is it wise to go someplace that bans children????????
It is usaully a place of sin that does that.
A few years ago I went over seas, the children in the Ukraine walked in singe file and said no maam and no sir or put a yes there. They were very polite.
A friend of mine then came to the USA and could not believe how bad our children behave.
Once more I will say that everybody needs time away-like a week end.That is not banning children.

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We love children. I traveled with my wife and children even on international business trips. We raised breast fed children and rarely did they see a baby sitter. I remember a dinner at the top of the towers in down town detroit. Our little infant wore a seersucker suit and even was fed discretely during dinner.


Yacht clubs, country clubs and resorts. We are definitely NOT into filial-centric parenting. Gotta have balance. They learned at a young age how to butcher chickens, build a fire, sew, cook and bake on woodstoves and live off the grid.
Recent news has shared with us the Palin family. They live as a family with gusto. They are considered weird by much of the culture. My children when very young were always visiting me at work. I encourage employees to have their children see them at work. We even have former workers come by from time to time with their children. There are companies and restaurants that are very family honoring.

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Paris. They are excited to refuse service to Americans. We were in an upscale resort one time that ran nearly 4 months booked for reservations. They had no kids menu. They had no high chair. The waiter made several trips to the kitchen and they made a little special menu plate for our daughter. Another resort in Puerto Rico poked around and found 3 NYC phone books for junior to sit on.

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:thumbsup AMEN!
The older I get the more annoyed I am by poorly behaved children. You add to that all the issues we seem to have today that we didn't see as much of years ago (like ADHD, and others), and a nice, peaceful night out can be stressful.

I personally would appreciate dining at a restaurant that didn't allow kids sometimes, and who on earth wouldn't prefer an airplane that didn't allow kids?!!!

I guess I can understand the rationale behind banning children....I can be annoyed by mis-behaving kids as well. I LOVE kids, but some places are just not kid friendly. However, like the examples given above, you can train a child to act a certain way in public. I was trained. My parents seldom traveled without me. I went to lectures, operas, meetings, vacations, and fine dinning establishments without acting out (I would not dare).

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Moral effects of banning children? LOL I was not aware that enjoying a nice quite dinner with no children had moral effects.

I think they should implement this in movie theaters also. There is nothing worse than paying out the nose for a movie, and then having three teenage girls giggle and screw around with their cell phones the entire movie.

Why yes, that is a personal anecdote, why do you ask? lol

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I was trying to see how it was against good morals to ban kids too. The scripture about Jesus not forbidding children was so that they could come to the FATHER to receive prayers, not if they could sit in movies and 5-star establishments beside adults. I think that's a huge stretch because with the same bible you can find other examples. Did Jesus take children everywhere with Him? :)

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My wife and I decided from the beginning that we were not going to have any kids so we really do not have a reason to "get away" from any. Having said that we still make every attempt to frequent establishments where children are either not allowed (mainly vacation resorts) or very unlikely to be, at least the unruly ones -probably the main reason we will go out of our way to NOT go to Walmart!

This does not mean we do not "like" kids but as Anne Shirley once said "I enjoy children in moderation".

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Exactly....I dont have kids...but I had good raising and I've been around alot of children before...and I get a kick out of parents that have the attitude of "You cant tell me anything about what I should do with my child cause YOU dont HAVE children"...This is true in many instances...but I dont have to have kids to know you shouldnt allow your child to act like a lil tin pot dictator in diapers and act any way they want!

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I had more than a few children :D and if they acted up in public, there were some good lessons to be taught. Now teenagers on the other hand..........there are some places they should be banned.

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Such as going to:

The local Lodge?
The Track?
The pool hall? (Wellllll ya got trouble my friend!)
The astronomy and geology sections of the local bookstore and library? (Where they teach OLD Earth garbage!)
The play area at the local McDonalds Playland?
Luscious Lisa's Adult Gifts and Novelty shop?

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I've been a full time stay-at-home mother ever since they were born, breast-fed all 3 of them, and I've homeschooled for the past 3 years. The only regular babysitter they've ever had was their Grandma. However, balance means that in MY life, I sometimes need time alone with my husband. It's perfectly alright for me to look forward to a night of peace and quiet every now and then. :) (Chances are I'll miss my kids during dinner anyway, but it's in my best interest to divert myself and enjoy my husband.)