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RandyWayne 04-17-2012 11:25 AM

Blood Test for Depression
 
I always knew that some forms of depression are physical in nature rather then attacks from SATAN.

But even I was thrown for a loop by this story (in a good way).



Scientists develop first blood test to diagnose depression

Scientists say they have developed the first blood test to diagnose major depression in teenagers. The test is also able to differentiate between at least two subtypes of depression: major depression and major depression combined with anxiety disorder.

Currently, doctors and psychiatrists diagnose depression solely by relying on the patient to recount his or her own symptoms. Then, the doctor must interpret the patient’s descriptions to decide whether or not the patient is depressed.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/0...#ixzz1sJsGEEmu

AreYouReady? 04-17-2012 11:53 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
I knew 10 years ago that scientists were working on a blood test for depression, much in the same way they can test for bipolar lithium levels. I am glad to see that it is finally a reality.

But, what I would like to see ..treatment wise is for physicians to incorporate good nutrition of whole foods and exercise into the treatment plan. In this day of processed boxed foods, people do not realize that they are not getting nourishment from the foods they eat. That will do much to help alleviate the suffering of depression. But am I cynical to think that maybe they do not what natural healing so they can push high priced medications off on the people to make a buck?

Is it not beyond the healthcare community to withhold effective treatment that includes nutrition so that they can have a consistent return paying customer?

Timmy 04-17-2012 12:27 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Can they do midi-chlorian counts, yet?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorian

RandyWayne 04-17-2012 12:31 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
For me it is about taking ammo away from those who say it is simply "in your head!" (although in a certain literal way, it is) or that it is "an attack from SATAN!".

I've never, nor will I ever, obsess about food and it only being organic and/or sold in a brown box. That isn't to say I cannot eat healthier than I do but to be quite honest, Coke makes me very happy.

EXERCISE is the greatest natural remedy for depression there is. When I was hitting the gym 4-5 times a week, my outlook on life was MUCH better -and I still ate junk!

bbyrd009 04-17-2012 12:42 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1154942)
I knew 10 years ago that scientists were working on a blood test for depression, much in the same way they can test for bipolar lithium levels. I am glad to see that it is finally a reality.

But, what I would like to see ..treatment wise is for physicians to incorporate good nutrition of whole foods and exercise into the treatment plan. In this day of processed boxed foods, people do not realize that they are not getting nourishment from the foods they eat. That will do much to help alleviate the suffering of depression. But am I cynical to think that maybe they do not what natural healing so they can push high priced medications off on the people to make a buck?

Is it not beyond the healthcare community to withhold effective treatment that includes nutrition so that they can have a consistent return paying customer?

You hit the nail on the head, imo. Our Dr.s have all been trained into a symptom relief system by a nefarious (at best) bunch, and most just can't afford to have the heart of T2W.

90% + of depressives here are Omega3 and VitaminD deficient; which should make one pretty much suicidal. Other dietary changes will take up most of the rest of the slack.

Wadr, most depressives lie to themselves wholesale. I ask for a survey of what they eat for a week, get back this whole-food survey, as they walk in eating a twinkie...

Of course there are (possibly) depressives with some "chemical imbalance," maybe, 1% (prolly just a diff deficiency)--but I would run from any establishment test for depression.

bbyrd009 04-17-2012 12:45 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1154955)
For me it is about taking ammo away from those who say it is simply "in your head!" (although in a certain literal way, it is) or that it is "an attack from SATAN!".

I've never, nor will I ever, obsess about food and it only being organic and/or sold in a brown box. That isn't to say I cannot eat healthier than I do but to be quite honest, Coke makes me very happy.

EXERCISE is the greatest natural remedy for depression there is. When I was hitting the gym 4-5 times a week, my outlook on life was MUCH better -and I still ate junk!

Yup--exercise will take care of the rest. You simply cannot be depressed when your endorphins are right.

Eat enough "pink slime," though, and I'm guessing you'll eventually spend lots on food (and zip on Dr.s, insurance, hospitals...)--but I have a friend like you, exercise monster, total junk food addict, lol.

bbyrd009 04-17-2012 12:48 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1154955)
...or that it is "an attack from SATAN!".

I've never, nor will I ever, obsess about food...

Hmm; we might possibly have a renewed conversation about "witchcraft," here pretty soon...in about a year, maybe...

My opening postulate will be "Are you eating something you can't pronounce?"

AreYouReady? 04-17-2012 12:52 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
For some of us, the lack of minerals and coenzymes won't keep one's serotonin in balance.
Some of us were so mineral deficient that it takes both good nutrition and exercise. I think that exercise plays a big role in it. I can always tell that I sleep better after a good brisk walk.

RandyWayne 04-17-2012 01:11 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Nearly every health food nut I have ever known have looked anything BUT healthy. Either they had no energy and/or their faces were sunken in as well as being just plain weird. But I have known MANY (from the gym, or job, or just life) that ate all manner of <gasp> processed foods and both looked and felt healthy. We would work out on a Friday then hit a pizza place after wards and drinks after that. Some even smoked (a little)! One guess as to which group were happier......

Again, exercise was the common denominator. Lord, I need to start doing this again, we have a North-rim to South-rim Grand Canyon hike coming up in a few months!

bbyrd009 04-17-2012 01:12 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1154964)
For some of us, the lack of minerals and coenzymes won't keep one's serotonin in balance.
Some of us were so mineral deficient that it takes both good nutrition and exercise. I think that exercise plays a big role in it. I can always tell that I sleep better after a good brisk walk.

um, is that a malti-poo?

AreYouReady? 04-17-2012 02:33 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1154977)
Nearly every health food nut I have ever known have looked anything BUT healthy. Either they had no energy and/or their faces were sunken in as well as being just plain weird. But I have known MANY (from the gym, or job, or just life) that ate all manner of <gasp> processed foods and both looked and felt healthy. We would work out on a Friday then hit a pizza place after wards and drinks after that. Some even smoked (a little)! One guess as to which group were happier......

Again, exercise was the common denominator. Lord, I need to start doing this again, we have a North-rim to South-rim Grand Canyon hike coming up in a few months!

Oh well...I do go to the health food store to buy vitamins and kombutcha, and some organic whole foods. I don't have enough money to buy all my food there. I do eat some junk food...I love chocolate and sherbet so I am not going to say that I adhere to the whole thing and call myself a health food nut. :D

I was severely demineralized and felt much better after a couple of years on some good vitamins and coenzymes...and other things

FWIW...I felt much better ingesting Melalucca vitamins. My body balanced itself out with the omegas and cholesterol support. Even my sinuses cleared up. But at $108.00 a month for a one person supply, I felt guilty spending that amount of money on just me when I had a husband and children. So I gave that up.

bbyrd009 04-17-2012 03:00 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1154977)
Nearly every health food nut I have ever known have looked anything BUT healthy. Either they had no energy and/or their faces were sunken in as well as being just plain weird. But I have known MANY (from the gym, or job, or just life) that ate all manner of <gasp> processed foods and both looked and felt healthy...

lol, yup. Protein types trying to be vegetarians, etc, I think.

bbyrd009 04-18-2012 08:20 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
I should add here that my depression led me to the discovery of "codependence," which may not hold for anyone else, but I do believe depression is a sign from God now--like maybe a sign that one is ignoring, or blind, to evidence right in front of them, possibly.

bbyrd009 04-18-2012 08:37 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
At the least, please don't be deceived as to where your nutrition is most likely coming from, at least if you eat out of a grocery store:
http://motherjones.com/tom-philpott/...ser-pink-slime

Pilgrum 04-18-2012 10:53 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
No need for a blood test for me. I strive to eat only whole non processed foods free from chemicals and GMO's. Sufficient proof that I am a nut. Bring on the drugs to cure me and make me sane like everybody else.

RandyWayne 04-18-2012 10:56 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Speaking of food, this sounds good for lunch.

http://ipjournal.law.wfu.edu/files/2...Sandwiches.png

bbyrd009 04-18-2012 01:43 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Better than what i had, lol.

Pilgrum 04-18-2012 08:22 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1155156)
Speaking of food, this sounds good for lunch.

http://ipjournal.law.wfu.edu/files/2...Sandwiches.png

I bet you'll have the one in the middle, right. Riiiight! LOL.

AreYouReady? 04-18-2012 08:31 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
How come these pictures of advertisements always look better than the actual sandwiches you buy?

bbyrd009 05-29-2012 12:57 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
A chronic depressive who does not respond to
Omega3 and vitamin D treatment (preferably from whole food)
might examine adrenal fatigue, but it amounts to the same thing;
a lifestyle change is indicated.

Jay 05-29-2012 02:56 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
There is much that is unknown about the relations between the spiritual, emotional, mental, and physical and how they interact with one another. It is known that your state of mind will have an influence on your physical health, your physical health can affect your emotions, your emotions can affect your spiritual life, and your spiritual life can and will affect your state of mind. Obviously they are all related, but no one can say exactly how. These scientists are seeking to make everything physical, while ignoring the rest of the man. Thus people heap unto themselves doctors, physicians, and medications, and are not profited by them at all.

RandyWayne 05-29-2012 03:05 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1165392)
There is much that is unknown about the relations between the spiritual, emotional, mental, and physical and how they interact with one another. It is known that your state of mind will have an influence on your physical health, your physical health can affect your emotions, your emotions can affect your spiritual life, and your spiritual life can and will affect your state of mind. Obviously they are all related, but no one can say exactly how. These scientists are seeking to make everything physical, while ignoring the rest of the man. Thus people heap unto themselves doctors, physicians, and medications, and are not profited by them at all.

I've always said one of the best things to have whilst battling depression is a warm puppy.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_zMPmxGw2o...-pictures2.png

MawMaw 05-29-2012 03:16 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1165397)
I've always said one of the best things to have whilst battling depression is a warm puppy.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_zMPmxGw2o...-pictures2.png

You are so right! :nod
That's why pets are taken to shut in
and elderly people lots of times. It makes
them feel so much better.

Jay 05-29-2012 03:22 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
I agree. Actually, I would say that almost any warm blooded animal is acceptable for that service. I have felt a little down, gone home, and both of my cats will come, jump on my bed, and cuddle and play with me. Before long, I am feeling much better than I was before.

RandyWayne 05-29-2012 03:23 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1165405)
You are so right! :nod
That's why pets are taken to shut in
and elderly people lots of times. It makes
them feel so much better.

We live about a thousand feet from a retirement center (assisted living) where the average age is well over 80 and quite a few of the residents have small dogs. In fact the place runs its own shelter for the dogs since most of them outlive their owners. That may be where our next (3rd) dog comes from.

bbyrd009 05-30-2012 09:05 AM

Re: Are You Fat?
 
A bit dense, but outlines a possible cause of obesity, "obesogens."
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...ese-badge-cans

that line packages, etc. I guess.

RandyWayne 05-30-2012 09:56 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1165411)
I agree. Actually, I would say that almost any warm blooded animal is acceptable for that service. I have felt a little down, gone home, and both of my cats will come, jump on my bed, and cuddle and play with me. Before long, I am feeling much better than I was before.

They really do know when something is not right with their owners. It continually amazes me how certain domesticated animals bond with humans like they do.

SiblingRevelry 06-04-2012 06:52 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1165397)
I've always said one of the best things to have whilst battling depression is a warm puppy.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_zMPmxGw2o...-pictures2.png

Kitties are good for depression too, but not in the way you might think. They're so incredibly self-centered (it's all about MEE-OWWW) that they'll pester you to death to feed them, pet them, clean out their litter boxes, etc. Occasionally they'll sit and purr on your lap. I have lots of experience with depression and there were days when my cat's expectations got me out of bed and on with my day.

Jay 06-04-2012 07:27 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
They will force you to think about someone else outside of yourself that is for sure. However, mine are constantly wanting to give and receive tlc. It is enough to make one slightly nuts on occasion. The best solution that I have found is to give them a long tight hug. I feel better and they leave me alone for a while :D.

AreYouReady? 06-04-2012 08:37 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1166392)
They will force you to think about someone else outside of yourself that is for sure. However, mine are constantly wanting to give and receive tlc. It is enough to make one slightly nuts on occasion. The best solution that I have found is to give them a long tight hug. I feel better and they leave me alone for a while :D.

Yeah...while you nurse your wounds from puppy bites. :heeheehee

Jay 06-04-2012 09:44 PM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
No puppies here. Cats only facility. :D

Timmy 06-05-2012 09:26 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1166414)
No puppies here. Cats only facility. :D

How depressing. :heeheehee

RandyWayne 06-05-2012 10:18 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1166414)
No puppies here. Cats only facility. :D

http://sheamacleod.files.wordpress.c...0/evil-cat.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...by_Konfan2.jpg

Timmy 06-05-2012 10:42 AM

Re: Blood Test for Depression
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylNSjQawvj4


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