Let's talk about modesty
 

What does modesty mean to you?

Is it just about covering your privates with clothing? Is it about how flashy and/or expensive your clothing and accessories are? Is it about how loud and attention-grabbing you choose to be? Is of about choosing discretion in your speech and behavior? Is it about not bragging? Is it about not having a proud and haughty spirit?

I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this subject!

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My short answer when it comes to clothing, modesty is covering up body parts that will catch attention with clothing that wont catch attention. My short answer for modest speech, modesty is not bragging about how modest you are.

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"I am a million times as humble as thou art!" -Weird Al

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That Weird Al was a talented man. Kinda weird though...

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There has been almost nothing as eye opening for me personally as seeing how utterly hypocritical most young people were in the UPC in following every "rule" yet completely ignoring every principle in modesty while growing up in the church. At each and every family camp during Summer all the women and girls maintained "the Pentecostal look!" while still looking like they were posing for photographers on the red carpet for a Hollywood premier.

My wife grew up on a farm and in the Assembly's of God church and shows far more modesty and fruits of the spirit then almost ALL PENTE-COSTAL young people I have ever known.

My respect for the jean skirt wearing, hair down to the butt, "all hang around the 'cool pastors kids' cliks" is completely nil.

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Kids knew at an early age how to play the game.

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mod·est (mdst)
adj.
1. Having or showing a moderate estimation of one's own talents, abilities, and value.
2. Having or proceeding from a disinclination to call attention to oneself; retiring or diffident.
3. Observing conventional proprieties in speech, behavior, or dress.
4. Free from showiness or ostentation; unpretentious.
5. Moderate or limited in size, quantity, or range; not extreme

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I believe that Pentecostals can dress very modest and still look good. They don't have to be plain and dowdy to be modest.

I detest this causual dress that is coming into the church. I believe we should give God our best and look our best.

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Who is to say what is somebodies best? Does God judge on what somebody wears to His church or is this the role for those that sit in judgement.

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Preach it Brother Randy.....stand back I am going to run the isle......as soon as I catch my breath.

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Just don't run down the 57-year-old woman in the spaghetti strap mini-dress who is standing in the isle. :heeheehee

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I believe modesty is a reflection of a humble heart.

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Not to worry the "holiness" patrol will remove her, taker her to the altar and scream at her in tongues for 15 minutes...... for mini skirt mama's sake I hope they have breath mints. :heeheehee

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I never said anyone was judgeing what people wear to church, but I do not like this casual attutide that some have. Shirtails hanging out, sloppy looking. One can be neat and weat the best they have. Is God not worth that?

My wife and I dress very modest and we dress nice. We dodn't look like we got up out of the yard from doing yard work and went to church.

Our clothing is modest and nice and neat.

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You are judging! At least those people are in church. Who cares what you like or dislike. Once again you look on the outside and God looks on the inside but of course you will be judged as you judge.

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YOu have your beliefs and I have mine. I am sure I will not shange your mind and you certainly willnot change mine.

I would not go to a church where they dressed imodest (didn't follow holiness standards) or they dress sloppy for church. I wasn't raised that way. I dress better to go to walmart than some do to go to God's house and that is a shame.

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Yep its all about that outward appearance.

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Well said. :thumbsup

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:(

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Do you put on your best clothing (suit, tie, dress shoes) right before you kneel down and talk to God at home? A church building (what you deem the house of God) is no more special than a quiet place in the corner of a darkened alley or in the comfort of your home. ...i'll tell you what i'm ashamed of....people who limit God's power to one specific group of people and a specific place of worship. God is bigger than that....at least mine is anyway.

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:yourock

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:thumbsup

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I do understand how you came to this conclusion. I don't immediately sense hypocrisy etc. when you make the case to "dress up for church". It has not been so many years ago that a man would dress in a three piece suit to get on a plane. While dressing up to go anywhere is simply not a requirement anymore - except very formal events, I do understand it was once not so and for some still is not.

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Interesting discussion! Love hearing everyone's opinions!

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I have always hated wearing suits. The only times I ever have was when I was doing weddings. It reminds me of slick politicians or salesman.

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I was brought us that way. At Christmas and holiday dinners and family functions we dress up. my wife dresses nice to go to town. When we travel we dress dressy causual. Funeral are dressy for ladies and suits for men. This is proper. I don't wear a suit to garden or go fishing that's not proper, but nither is it proper to wear my gardening clothes to church.

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:bubble

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It's not proper to condemn or look at someone with shame or disgust who wasn't brought up the way you were or who doesn't dress to your standards. I would bet my pay check that God's Spirit isn't suppressed by someone who's wearing jeans and a polo shirt rather than a suit and tie. But i'll concede this...if a person is dressin like a bum out of a bad attitude or rebellion, then that's a whole other story....but the same can be said about a person who dresses really nice for the looks and approval of other ppl with a proud spirit. I've seen ppl wearing stylish suits and bow ties who look more ridiculous than me wearing khakis and a button down shirt. Ppl notice nice flashy apparel well before they notice something plain and general. The whole attitude of "dress your best" within the pentecostal ranks creates nothing more than a competitive AND envious spirit...not to mention a complex and a feeling of not fitting in for a person who can't afford to look as nice as the others. I choose to wear casual clothing because 1. it's more comfortable. 2. I know God isn't concerned with it...no matter how loud the pastor preaches about it. 3. I don't want to be known or talked about by the clothing I choose to wear.

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I'd rather walk into a pentecostal service dressed like a bum to make the less fortunate ppl who can't afford nice clothes feel welcome and not out of place, than to wear nice clothes and receive compliments and praise. No matter what your pastor says or how you were brought up...Church is the body of Christ...not a sam hill building...and gathering in a building with others who are in the body of Christ isn't a fashion show. Put your cameras away, get off your phones and stop tweetin the gossip, and start tweetin your mouths to Jesus with praise. He didn't die on that old rugged cross so that His people could condemn others for what they wear...He died so that we might have life. Life is in the blood...not in a big piece of cloth...or silk.

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:thumbsup :yourock

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:yourock :thumbsup

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For the most part I am in agreement.

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Our best isn't always the same. So we can't judge those that don't measure up to our best. We were poor growing up, some of our clothes were hand made, others from Goodwill. But, we were clean. Yes, we had SOME people in our church that made fun of us, or looked down on us. But, my Mother was a woman of great faith, she was hurt by some. But, it didn't deter her from going to church. Every once in a while we got something I considered fancy, or new. Cheap but new.

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I have been very poor in my lifetime but we always managed to dress well. My mother sew her clothes for the most part and so has my wife in the past. Many of my wife's dresses cost less than $10 and some $5. I have managed to get my clothes on sale spending less than many do for shorts or jeans.

If people want to dress properly they can most just don't have the want to.

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Steve Pixler has some great thoughts about Modesty on his blog. I think his posts have been compiled into book form now...but the original articles are still up.

http://blog.stevepixler.com/2011/05/...-feminism.html

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Thanks for this link.

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MissBrattified - thanks for the link!

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LOL

(But that would be funny if caught on video and played back in slow motion.)

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:thumbsup

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