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ILG 02-25-2013 09:17 AM

For Wandy Rayne
 
Randy,

I watched a "prepper" show here a while back. Some of those people are nuts! But anyway, I've decided I must be a mild form of prepper. I am not waiting for a cataclysmic earthquake or anything like that but, given the financial system, and looking forward to the uncertain future of all things financial, I guess I try to be a bit of a financial prepper in my own way. The first way that that comes out is in my husband and I trying to build a couple of businesses. We find the working world to be very demanding and stressful and it would be nice to work for ourselves as long as the income is there. And it looks like it can be if we do this right. There is no true SAFE route......only safer or less safe ones.

So, what are your preppeing inclincations and why?

And for the rest of you, what are you doing to prepare for the future? Anything? Are you just doing 401K and hoping for the best? Or anything else?

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:20 AM

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We watch Doomsday Preppers every week, even though the majority of people now featured are, shall we say, on the wacky side. Did you catch the last episode featuring Hawaii Guy? Before that was the infamous "Greta" episode where the lady of the house (a typical hippie type) constantly spoke to Greta who was warning her of the massive coming tidal waves! Most fans of the show agree that one or both of these episodes represents the shows "jumping the shark" moment(s).

KeptByTheWord 02-25-2013 09:22 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
We believe it is always good to be prepared for the unknown. We have prepared some food storage. And because we live in an area with abundant sources of water, we really don't need to worry about storing water.

It is hard to know what to plan for, when it is the unknown. That is why I believe trusting in the Lord is also a very important part of planning for the future, and listening to his voice, and trusting Him to tell us what to prepare.

We have a friend who recently bought a large amount of wheat, and a wheat grinder, because the Lord impressed him to do it.

So, who knows what lies ahead, although we do know that the financial situation of our country is in a shambles, and it would behoove us all to at least have several weeks worth of food in case of a national emergency of any kind.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:23 AM

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Sprinkled throughout are some real people with genuinely good idea's for being prepared. One family happens to live just a few miles from us in Tempe and was featured on season 1. They converted their outdoor swimming pool into a Tilapia pond and between a garden, small flock of chickens, and the fish, can literally provide for 98-99% of their own food, all from a very small backyard.

KeptByTheWord 02-25-2013 09:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227685)
...spoke to Greta who was warning her of the massive coming tidal waves!

A friend of a friend of a friend... (you get the picture) received an email from a friend who lives over on the West Coast, and apparently he had seen a vision or dream that an earthquake was going to hit California, and that a tsunami was going to hit Seattle in response to that earthquake. While very possible, as we all know that California is subject to earthquakes, it is hard to believe everything that you hear!

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1227686)
We believe it is always good to be prepared for the unknown. We have prepared some food storage. And because we live in an area with abundant sources of water, we really don't need to worry about storing water.

It is hard to know what to plan for, when it is the unknown. That is why I believe trusting in the Lord is also a very important part of planning for the future, and listening to his voice, and trusting Him to tell us what to prepare.

We have a friend who recently bought a large amount of wheat, and a wheat grinder, because the Lord impressed him to do it.

So, who knows what lies ahead, although we do know that the financial situation of our country is in a shambles, and it would behoove us all to at least have several weeks worth of food in case of a national emergency of any kind.

Depending on where in the country you live, just having a couple of WEEKS of food puts you ahead of over 90% of the local population. Right now we have about three months of freeze dried stuff in what we call our "survival closest". I am really trying to get into container gardening to having fresh stuff by the time our stored food is running out but the problem here in the desert is water so we have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get a rain water catching system installed as well. . . . .

Of course besides food I am also stock piling things like ammo (and guns), rechargeable batteries and a couple of solar panels capable of charging them, several walkie talkies as well as a small HAM radio, and MANY ways of starting fires.

KeptByTheWord 02-25-2013 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227689)
Sprinkled throughout are some real people with genuinely good idea's for being prepared. One family happens to live just a few miles from us in Tempe and was featured on season 1. They converted their outdoor swimming pool into a Tilapia pond and between a garden, small flock of chickens, and the fish, can literally provide for 98-99% of their own food, all from a very small backyard.

One thing I've always wondered about these preppers who actually are being filmed, and are showing off their preparations... what do they think is going to happen if things go down? All the people who have not prepared will be headed straight to THEIR place! Doesn't make much sense to me to tell the world what you have prepared....

KeptByTheWord 02-25-2013 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227691)
Depending on where in the country you live, just having a couple of WEEKS of food puts you ahead of over 90% of the local population. Right now we have about three months of freeze dried stuff in what we call our "survival closest". I am really trying to get into container gardening to having fresh stuff by the time our stored food is running out but the problem here in the desert is water so we have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get a rain water catching system installed as well. . . . .

We have gone with the mylar bags, and plastic buckets... Rice, beans, sugar, salt etc.

It is VERY hard to have a garden here in the north. You need a greenhouse. I hope to get one for this summer. I did put up a LOT of vegetables last summer that we bought at a local produce stand for next to nothing. Makes me wonder if gardening here is worth all the trouble, when I can get such great veggies down the street and can them.

Have you ever tried dehydrating? I was listening to a lady speak about the fact that with dehydration that you keep about 80% of the nutrients, while in canning, you lose about 80% of the nutrients!

It is just that dehydrating is so time consuming, which is why we haven't tried it.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1227693)
One thing I've always wondered about these preppers who actually are being filmed, and are showing off their preparations... what do they think is going to happen if things go down? All the people who have not prepared will be headed straight to THEIR place! Doesn't make much sense to me to tell the world what you have prepared....

Most preppers out there will not appear on this show for that very reason. Now they don't give out addresses (except in one notable case) but enough people will know the people being featured that there will still be crowds showing up at their doors when the SHTF.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1227695)
We have gone with the mylar bags, and plastic buckets... Rice, beans, sugar, salt etc.

It is VERY hard to have a garden here in the north. You need a greenhouse. I hope to get one for this summer. I did put up a LOT of vegetables last summer that we bought at a local produce stand for next to nothing. Makes me wonder if gardening here is worth all the trouble, when I can get such great veggies down the street and can them.

Have you ever tried dehydrating? I was listening to a lady speak about the fact that with dehydration that you keep about 80% of the nutrients, while in canning, you lose about 80% of the nutrients!

It is just that dehydrating is so time consuming, which is why we haven't tried it.

We did recently buy a very nice Nesco brand dehydrator as well as 4 additional trays. My wife has fallen in love with it.

ILG 02-25-2013 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227685)
We watch Doomsday Preppers every week, even though the majority of people now featured are, shall we say, on the wacky side. Did you catch the last episode featuring Hawaii Guy? Before that was the infamous "Greta" episode where the lady of the house (a typical hippie type) constantly spoke to Greta who was warning her of the massive coming tidal waves! Most fans of the show agree that one or both of these episodes represents the shows "jumping the shark" moment(s).

No, I've only watched a couple of youtube episodes. It's reality TV, which usually has the wack factor!

ILG 02-25-2013 09:49 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1227686)

So, who knows what lies ahead, although we do know that the financial situation of our country is in a shambles, and it would behoove us all to at least have several weeks worth of food in case of a national emergency of any kind.

Yes, I think that makes good sense.

AreYouReady? 02-25-2013 09:52 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
I saw one youtube episode where a family stored a massive amount of food and medicine. The woman and her daughter are diabetic and she had a massive amount of insulin stored also.

They had firearms in case people showed up at their door to take what they had prepped all these years.

This was a true reality show though. It turned out that the enemy was not 'out there'. The enemy was each other. :heeheehee

They got divorced. The judge gave him the land and house, she got all the prepped items. She only had to go and get it from the land, which he was guarding with the guns!

Did it do them any good? I'd say it did for the man.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:58 AM

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One of the thing that irritates me about the show is that each featured prepper starts with "I am preparing for......", then they go into their preps, and finally end their segment with "Experts generally agree that the possibility of <fill in the blank> is unlikely." I guess that is fine for some of the more outlandish things that some are worrying about, but when it comes to financial collapse and/or hyper inflation, I could care less what their "experts" say, it is a certainty. The only question is when.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 09:59 AM

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I would get on the show IF I was allowed to start off with "I am preparing the imminent threat of our Sun going nova!"

ILG 02-25-2013 10:01 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227689)
Sprinkled throughout are some real people with genuinely good idea's for being prepared. One family happens to live just a few miles from us in Tempe and was featured on season 1. They converted their outdoor swimming pool into a Tilapia pond and between a garden, small flock of chickens, and the fish, can literally provide for 98-99% of their own food, all from a very small backyard.

I think that sounds great. I do some things like this morning I tapped a few trees. I have a number to go.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 10:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1227737)
I think that sounds great. I do some things like this morning I tapped a few trees. I have a number to go.

You need to use your resources. :)

Now if I could figure out how to tap one of THESE, I would be all set! (They are everywhere here!)

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...gnMmNvduk-PSB7

ILG 02-25-2013 10:03 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227691)
Depending on where in the country you live, just having a couple of WEEKS of food puts you ahead of over 90% of the local population. Right now we have about three months of freeze dried stuff in what we call our "survival closest". I am really trying to get into container gardening to having fresh stuff by the time our stored food is running out but the problem here in the desert is water so we have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get a rain water catching system installed as well. . . . .

Of course besides food I am also stock piling things like ammo (and guns), rechargeable batteries and a couple of solar panels capable of charging them, several walkie talkies as well as a small HAM radio, and MANY ways of starting fires.

You'll need that ammo if there is a food run. ;) I try to do things that are very practical. I would not buy survival food personally, I would get stuff I will use anyway and rotate it.

ILG 02-25-2013 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1227693)
One thing I've always wondered about these preppers who actually are being filmed, and are showing off their preparations... what do they think is going to happen if things go down? All the people who have not prepared will be headed straight to THEIR place! Doesn't make much sense to me to tell the world what you have prepared....

Yes, I think even on here a person should think about that!

ILG 02-25-2013 10:06 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1227695)
We have gone with the mylar bags, and plastic buckets... Rice, beans, sugar, salt etc.

It is VERY hard to have a garden here in the north. You need a greenhouse. I hope to get one for this summer. I did put up a LOT of vegetables last summer that we bought at a local produce stand for next to nothing. Makes me wonder if gardening here is worth all the trouble, when I can get such great veggies down the street and can them.

Have you ever tried dehydrating? I was listening to a lady speak about the fact that with dehydration that you keep about 80% of the nutrients, while in canning, you lose about 80% of the nutrients!

It is just that dehydrating is so time consuming, which is why we haven't tried it.

Re: gardening. I watched this last night. Sometimes, ya just gotta wonder....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 10:06 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1227740)
You'll need that ammo if there is a food run. ;) I try to do things that are very practical. I would not buy survival food personally, I would get stuff I will use anyway and rotate it.

We do that as well. Actually our goal is to have a full 30 days of "regular" food in our pantry and then beyond that we will break into our freeze dried stuff. We would probably even start using the closet food sooner and mix it in with the more normal canned and bottled stuff.

I'm also looking at installing a small solar panel system on our shed which can power a small DC powered fridge.

ILG 02-25-2013 10:10 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227732)
One of the thing that irritates me about the show is that each featured prepper starts with "I am preparing for......", then they go into their preps, and finally end their segment with "Experts generally agree that the possibility of <fill in the blank> is unlikely." I guess that is fine for some of the more outlandish things that some are worrying about, but when it comes to financial collapse and/or hyper inflation, I could care less what their "experts" say, it is a certainty. The only question is when.

Yeah, it's hard to say how severe, but it's coming as far as I can see. Prepping will make your life go better whether it happens or not.

ILG 02-25-2013 10:11 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227734)
I would get on the show IF I was allowed to start off with "I am preparing the imminent threat of our Sun going nova!"

LOL! Is that what you are prepping for?

ILG 02-25-2013 10:12 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227739)
You need to use your resources. :)

Now if I could figure out how to tap one of THESE, I would be all set! (They are everywhere here!)

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...gnMmNvduk-PSB7

There has got to be a use for those!

ILG 02-25-2013 10:13 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1227744)
We do that as well. Actually our goal is to have a full 30 days of "regular" food in our pantry and then beyond that we will break into our freeze dried stuff. We would probably even start using the closet food sooner and mix it in with the more normal canned and bottled stuff.

I'm also looking at installing a small solar panel system on our shed which can power a small DC powered fridge.

My husband has been wanting to use solar for years. It's expensive though.

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 10:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1227749)
LOL! Is that what you are prepping for?

Of course not, but would just love to say it just to hear the narrator at the end say "While all stars eventually do blow up in either a nova or super nova, most experts agree that our own Sun has at least 5 billions years left thus making threats of catastrophic explosion in our life time unlikely."

AreYouReady? 02-25-2013 10:19 AM

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If the sun ever were to blow up in a super nova, wouldn't that be an awesome sight to see before all the lights go out?

RandyWayne 02-25-2013 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1227760)
If the sun ever were to blow up in a super nova, wouldn't that be an awesome sight to see before all the lights go out?

Ever see the movie Knowing which starred Nicholas Cage? The Sun didn't explode in that one but it did send out a massive solar flare which had the same effect on life here.

AreYouReady? 02-25-2013 10:50 AM

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No. I didn't see that one. I'll have to look for it.

I don't do Netflix.

KeptByTheWord 02-25-2013 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1227743)
Re: gardening. I watched this last night. Sometimes, ya just gotta wonder....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

I'll probably have to wait all day for that video to load, but I am going to watch it.

This is the weirdest thing... last night some friends were gathered in our home, and the chem trails were part of our discussion! I am interested to see what the video says.

I think basically it comes down to eating as healthy as we possibly can, and praying a blessing over our food asking the Lord to bless it to our bodies in spite of all the evidence around us, that everything we eat, breathe, and drink is polluted with chemicals of one sort or another!

Evang.Benincasa 02-25-2013 02:36 PM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Conspiracy Theorists!

BeenThinkin 02-25-2013 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1227855)
Conspiracy Theorists!


Now Evang.B how do you really feel about it? :happydance :heeheehee

Been Thinkin

ILG 02-25-2013 08:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1227855)
Conspiracy Theorists!

Are you prepping for the Great Tribulation?

Evang.Benincasa 02-25-2013 08:22 PM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin (Post 1227859)
Now Evang.B how do you really feel about it? :happydance :heeheehee

Been Thinkin

They are trying to control the weather, man has been doing it since the first witch doctor took his bongo drums and shook his rattle to bring forth rain.

Weather can stop an army in its tracks, and the Nazis were working on weather control as fast as they were trying to build the atomic bomb. They lost the race, and we picked up the baton. Now, it doesn't matter what you or I think about it, or what we are going to do about it. There is money to be made on a higher level. You and I are just cogs in the machine, and fleas on a bigger dog. People make these documentaries with noble ideals, and really want to get the news out to the huddled masses, but the huddled masses are too busy complaining about Calvinism Vs Arianism, Vs Molinism, while watching "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo," and drinking Red Bull.

We are in a Brave New world, and there is money to be made by people who are not on Internet Forums.

:heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 02-25-2013 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1227945)
Are you prepping for the Great Tribulation?

:heeheehee

RandyWayne 02-26-2013 01:00 PM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3tlazFdGko

deafdriscoll 02-27-2013 09:48 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
help- help I see a huge tidal waveeeeee.......
lost contact with writer he is gone.....

AreYouReady? 02-27-2013 10:05 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
Randy Wayne is right to store food for himself and his family. At one time it was law for this country to have a reserve supply of food for the citizens here. Then political winds changed and our leaders "in their wisdom" gave all our food reserves away to foreign countries mainly.

Some people berate americans for being obese...as if they eat too much. Fact is, many americans have to eat food that has no nutritional value because they have made the price of good whole foods to be more expensive than foods that cost more to process than to pick off the tree without processing. What's up with that?

Americans are obese because they need nutrition to keep their bodies slim and fit.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money...d-supply_N.htm

ILG 02-27-2013 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deafdriscoll (Post 1228473)
help- help I see a huge tidal waveeeeee.......
lost contact with writer he is gone.....

Is that where Randy Wayne has been? He has an important thread to keep up with now!

ILG 02-27-2013 10:21 AM

Re: For Randy Wayne
 
I watched a documentary on Ayn Rand last night. Fascinating! I have never read her books but I am intrigued!


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