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"God in three Persons, Blessed Trinity."

I like this worship chorus.

Now maybe my idea of the Trinity may be slightly different from some other modern Trinitarians-- then again, maybe not.

I enjoy seeking to identify with my Heavenly Father in my private prayer and worship time, where at one time my focus was completely Jesus-focused.

Now of course, we all know that when we call on the Name of Jesus, we are not calling on a separate person apart from GOD.

Yet, there is a difference, a certain separation if you will.

I don't have all the answers and I don't aspire to have them all.

I just want to tell somebody, I have a Father and He calls me His son. I want to please Him, honor Him, be just like Him and see Him as He is!

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I have problem seeing as how persons in reference to GOD is highly un-biblical.

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I like how POA changed that line to "God in Christ Jesus, Blessed Deity." Like the song, don't agree with the trinity line though.

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The word "persons" is a human construct attempting to explain a concept.

The word "rapture" is highly un-biblical as well, using your logic.


In discussing the term "Trinity", was the word "persons" ever meant to denote a separation as separate as three separate people? I don't think so-- which is why most Trinitarian stuff I've read doesn't seem to present GOD as a committee.


Does anyone else ever find it comforting to dwell on the Father-hood of our God?

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The term "persons" is actually a mistranslation. Tertullian actually said "personae."

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God also doesn't have 'hands' or eyes... but He is given those attributes in speech to help us with our limited understanding of Spirit that can speak matter into existence. I'm not sure why OPs always feel they have to correct the 'persons' thing, even in something as simple as song lyrics... But if I sing "He's got the whole world, in his hands"... nobody stops the song to tell me God does NOT have hands. :heeheehee


Yes, me. I did not have an earthly father and really enjoy knowing that I have a Heavenly Father who watches over and protects me. Very comforting.

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amen... and skitzophrinic.

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Huh? Explain the bold part. What else is persons supposed to denote? I think of more than one when I see a plural. Also using a human construct that isnt biblical is still wrong. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Thats it!

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You're a democrat, right?

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Either you are joking, or just stirring the proverbial pot......I would guess the latter.......either way you and I both know that educated trinitarians (those who have been really taught the doctrine.....which MOST of your average members have not been) do promote three separate and distinct persons which make up the godhead. They are co-equal, co-eternal, etc but they are one.....a supposed mystery that we must accept by faith.

By definition, the trinitarian view of God completely destroys what a majority of their church's vision/mission statements state as their objective: "To know God and to make him known." How can you make God known when you teach he is a mystery that you cannot know, so you just accept it by faith.

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I think you should testify about your thoughts expressed above in your old / new UPC home church! That dog will hunt!!!! LOL

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:heeheehee

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Now why doesn't this surprise me? :spit

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How do you think God walked in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve?

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He was present in the garden with Adam and Eve. He didn't "walk" with them like Saruman the White walking with Gandolf.

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My personal belief? Prepare to think I'm weirder than you probably already do...

I believe that before Adam and Eve disobeyed God they were much more spirit and much less flesh and were able to commune with God in a way that we can only aspire to today. Gods presence was very close... close enough to be felt as if He were walking beside them. Disobedience (sin) destroyed that when they put something between them and their Creator. We all do it today, putting things between us and God. But many of us who long for that closeness and I believe that in our quiet times, alone with God, we can push aside the separation and again 'walk' with God.

My favorite hymn is 'In the Garden', do you know it? I remember my Ma-maw and my Mama singing that song as if they believed Jesus walked with them... because He did... and for that to happen He didn't need to be more flesh and less spirit, they had be more spirit and less flesh.

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When my son was in kindegarden he was going to a private school at a cruisematic church. They were singing this song one day and my son would not sing with them . When ask why he wasn't taking part he said "becase there is no trinity there is onlyh one God"

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And, this is where they look at you and say, correct, we know there's only one God.

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No ma'am this is where they called up his mother and wanted her to explain the trinity to him. She then gave them a bible study on the oneness.

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LOL!

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The Trinitarian Poem

Roses are Red
Violets are blue
Im skitzoprenic
and so am I
and so am I

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Or the other side of the coin.

Please self remove this cup from Me, never the less I will not remove this cup from myself. Let My will be done.

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Yes I know that song and have song it many many times.

I can see where you could conceive that idea. That scripture says He walked and talked to Adam and Eve on a daily basis.

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Never heard of Saruman.


Scripture said he walked and talked with them. :). Just saying...

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Ahh-haa... the difference between a Bible literlist and not. :)

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I see this has turned into a oneness v trinity debate. One GOD is mentioned how many times in the bible? How many times is three persons/trinity mentioned in the bible?

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There's that verse that says, "Hear, O Israel: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are co-eternal, co-existent, separate, and distinct persons...but we are one."
:lol

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How is your heart doing ??? I have had the ablation done and my palpitations seem to be coming back.

This One God Trinitarian prayed for you :heeheehee