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Timmy 04-01-2014 02:07 PM

When good things happen...
 
...was it God? Or was it something else? Was it both? Does it vary from event to another?

To most of my FB friends, every time something good happens, it was God. Every. Single. Time. :lol

So, discuss. :)

Aquila 04-01-2014 02:21 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1306938)
...was it God? Or was it something else? Was it both? Does it vary from event to another?

To most of my FB friends, every time something good happens, it was God. Every. Single. Time. :lol

So, discuss. :)

I believe in a sovereign God who manages all things through divine providence. Therefore, in my mind, all of our hairs are numbered. Our very days are numbered (and pre-recorded, for lack of a better term). We can't add an hour to our lives. And the blade of grass doesn't bend with the wind unless God has ordained it to be so.

Therefore... all things are from God. Both what we might call good and what we might call evil.

Disciple4life 04-01-2014 05:08 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
The Lord makes it to rain on the Just and the unjust alike.

Shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?

Timmy 04-01-2014 06:35 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1306939)
I believe in a sovereign God who manages all things through divine providence. Therefore, in my mind, all of our hairs are numbered. Our very days are numbered (and pre-recorded, for lack of a better term). We can't add an hour to our lives. And the blade of grass doesn't bend with the wind unless God has ordained it to be so.

Therefore... all things are from God. Both what we might call good and what we might call evil.

You are a silly, silly man.

(God made me type that. :heeheehee)

Timmy 04-01-2014 06:39 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
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Originally Posted by Disciple4life (Post 1306954)
The Lord makes it to rain on the Just and the unjust alike.

Shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?

I was about to post a follow-up question, but you answered it right there. Was going to ask if God does good things for unbelievers, as well as to believers.

Yes.

Of course he does. And (according to some) he does mean things to both, too. I guess.

Oh, but we humans aren't really qualified to say whether something that happens is good or bad. I guess.

Disciple4life 04-01-2014 06:49 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
One time I went to Church and this man got up and testified.

He said that his family were going to get something to eat before they went home. He was so mad because they had to wait for like an hour for their food. When they got done and went home they found their house had burnt down. The fire chief told him their was some kind of gas explosion that destroyed his house and what was left caught fire. The fire chief told him if him and his family where home they would have been killed.

So the moral of the story is that bad service at a restaurant can be a blessing from God. :highfive

Aquila 04-02-2014 06:18 AM

Re: When good things happen...
 
We often think the world is a world of chaos, and we pray that God helps us. The truth is... God is in absolute control. What God hasn't determined to be... has been ordained to be. There is nothing that you could ever face that hasn't passed over His desk. Therefore, you can be assured that all things are in accordance to His divine plan and providence. And although it may not look good... you can still rejoice because it will ultimately work for your good, if you love God and are called according to His purposes.

justlookin 04-02-2014 06:29 AM

Re: When good things happen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1306938)
...was it God? Or was it something else? Was it both? Does it vary from event to another?

To most of my FB friends, every time something good happens, it was God. Every. Single. Time. :lol

So, discuss. :)

If I truly believe I'm a child of God, and I do, then I must believe that my Father in heaven only gives good gifts to me as His child, as a son of God. In that sense, nothing is bad from God, there is only good.

ILG 04-02-2014 08:37 AM

Re: When good things happen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1306938)
...was it God? Or was it something else? Was it both? Does it vary from event to another?

To most of my FB friends, every time something good happens, it was God. Every. Single. Time. :lol

So, discuss. :)

I don't know.

There are my deep thoughts. :)

Timmy 04-02-2014 10:17 AM

Re: When good things happen...
 
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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1307021)
I don't know.

There are my deep thoughts. :)

Best answer of the thread! :highfive

Carl 04-02-2014 10:31 AM

Re: When good things happen...
 
The good is from God the bad is not. The false concept of a God who is the origin of heartache, calamity, sickness and evil has caused many to reject him. Most of the bad things that happen are caused by many variables present in this chaotic world we live in. After all there is a spiritual battle going on.

Timmy 04-02-2014 10:41 AM

Re: When good things happen...
 
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Originally Posted by Carl (Post 1307057)
The good is from God the bad is not. The false concept of a God who is the origin of heartache, calamity, sickness and evil has caused many to reject him. Most of the bad things that happen are caused by many variables present in this chaotic world we live in. After all there is a spiritual battle going on.

What about unbelievers? Does God make good things happen to them, too? Why?

Do Christians have more good stuff happen than unbelievers do?

I was told that I'm happy now that I have left the faith because the devil has me where he wants me, so he's leaving me alone. But why did God let the devil zap me with depression and stuff when I was "God's child"?

This is so complicated.

justlookin 04-02-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1307063)
What about unbelievers? Does God make good things happen to them, too? Why?

Do Christians have more good stuff happen than unbelievers do?

I was told that I'm happy now that I have left the faith because the devil has me where he wants me, so he's leaving me alone. But why did God let the devil zap me with depression and stuff when I was "God's child"?

This is so complicated.

Not really. It all comes down to one's belief in God and trusting Him.

Seems you've found a good life and happiness by rejecting God. We all make our personal decisions and will have to live with them. You. Me. Everyone.

Aquila 04-02-2014 02:52 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl (Post 1307057)
The good is from God the bad is not. The false concept of a God who is the origin of heartache, calamity, sickness and evil has caused many to reject him. Most of the bad things that happen are caused by many variables present in this chaotic world we live in. After all there is a spiritual battle going on.

I disagree. One cannot judge the final outcome of anything from a temporal perspective. Heartache, calamity, sickness, and yes... even evil can be exactly what is necessary for a far greater blessing. For example, I know a woman who was sleeping around, hooked on drugs, and drinking herself to death. She was considering suicide. She called suicide prevention and afterwards said a short prayer, "God, help me." Next thing she knew... smoking made her sick. The drugs made her sick. She went to the doctor and found out that she was pregnant! She thought, "Oh no! Not this! Not now! This is the worst thing that could happen to me!" She was shattered. She thought there was no way she could be a mother, she was an addict. She thought it couldn't possibly get worse.

Today... she's a bright, successful, drug free, woman who is living for Jesus. God knew just what it would take to turn her world around. God also knew what it would take to reduce her to the place wherein she knew she needed Him.

Sometimes the storm blows you on-course. Don't curse it and say it isn't from God. My brother's untimely death brought most of my family to Christ. Unless you're all knowing... you can't judge what is truly a tragedy in the moment when it is happening. Often years later we can see that it was a blessing in disguise.

Carl 04-02-2014 03:47 PM

Re: When good things happen...
 
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1307135)
I disagree. One cannot judge the final outcome of anything from a temporal perspective. Heartache, calamity, sickness, and yes... even evil can be exactly what is necessary for a far greater blessing. For example, I know a woman who was sleeping around, hooked on drugs, and drinking herself to death. She was considering suicide. She called suicide prevention and afterwards said a short prayer, "God, help me." Next thing she knew... smoking made her sick. The drugs made her sick. She went to the doctor and found out that she was pregnant! She thought, "Oh no! Not this! Not now! This is the worst thing that could happen to me!" She was shattered. She thought there was no way she could be a mother, she was an addict. She thought it couldn't possibly get worse.

Today... she's a bright, successful, drug free, woman who is living for Jesus. God knew just what it would take to turn her world around. God also knew what it would take to reduce her to the place wherein she knew she needed Him.

Sometimes the storm blows you on-course. Don't curse it and say it isn't from God. My brother's untimely death brought most of my family to Christ. Unless you're all knowing... you can't judge what is truly a tragedy in the moment when it is happening. Often years later we can see that it was a blessing in disguise.

God can work through the worst circumstances and bring something good out of bad but that does not mean he is the cause of the bad things happening. He may allow certain things to happen and even orchestrate some situations in our life but I wouldn't take that doctrine too far. We blame God for way too much.

Aquila 04-03-2014 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl (Post 1307146)
God can work through the worst circumstances and bring something good out of bad but that does not mean he is the cause of the bad things happening. He may allow certain things to happen and even orchestrate some situations in our life but I wouldn't take that doctrine too far. We blame God for way too much.

I believe that within the confines of divine providence we have God appointed situations (sometimes good, sometimes undesirable) and we have God ordained circumstances (sometimes good, and sometimes undesirable). Those things which are ordained are things that are essentially permitted.


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