Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
 

Just out of curiosity? Have any of you guys heard of any non trinitarian Pentecostal groups other than oneness? Whether Arian, Binitarian...etc

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The School of Prophet movement began by William Sowders better known as Gospel Assembly or Body of Christ believe in 2 in the Godhead. Sowders began his movement in thr early years of the last century. By the time he died there were about 400 assemblies scattered across the nation. After his death in 51 the group began to split into different groups but in the last decade there has been a reuniting of the group. Sowders built a large campground at Shepherdsville, Ky. I don't know how many assemblies are associated with them today?

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Yadon and Morse were accused of believing in 2. But I have not found any documentation, yet.

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I do not really think either were twoness. Yadon's problem arose over him reprinting the book Jehovah-Jesus his title which was written by an Arian. But I really do not think he was an Arian? Some men bordered on teaching Jesus was a created being Ted Fitch taught this which sounded very much twoness, however after the incarnation he was certainly Oneness as was Yadon.

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Thanks for the insight. Have a great camp meeting !!

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I think there may be some Unitarian out there

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The Gospel Assembly/Gospel Chapel folks are two-ness. (Sowderites)

I think The Way, International is a unitarian, pentecostal group (believe Jesus is Son of God, not God).

Wasn't Branham kind of two-ness?

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"Repent...be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ...receive...the Holy Spirit."

What makes you think trinitarians are "Pentecostal"?

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My understanding has always been, Pentecostal refers to the style of worship, while we use Apostolic to define our doctrinal positions (hence why this is Apostolic Friends Forum, rather than Pentecostal Friends Forum).

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Fitch taught the true doctrine of Oneness. Far more glorious than the "thought" or "plan" error.

Fitch wrote:

"The 'Angel of the Lord' represented the Great Eternal Spirit that filled the Universe. The Spirit of God was present everywhere. The Angel 'Person' of God was God in One Place. Please notice that everytime the Angel of the Lord appeared or spoke to anyone it was God Himself 'in person'... Before the Son of God was born of the Virgin Mary, the Lord God existed in two definite ways. God was manifested as an Angelic Spirit 'Person' and as an omnipresent Spirit, that is present everywhere all the time. His 'Person' was in the form of a man, and His eternal Spirit was without form, body or parts" (Theodore Fitch, The Deity of Jesus, Pentecostal Publishing House, Hazelwood, MO n.d., p. 4).

"Before the incarnation, the fullness of God dwell in a Spirit body which was in the form of a man. This beautiful angel body was made flesh by the power of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the Virgin Mary. This made the God-Angel a God-man... If the Word or 'Person' of God was made flesh, then the Father is the Son and the Son is the Father.. The Word that was God, was 'made over' into a flesh man (John 1:14). When God the Word was made flesh, he became a Son, but still remained God, he still remained the same Person... The angel Person of the Lord from Heaven is now called the Son of God" (Fitch, p. 22,23).

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I know because I was baptized with the Holy Ghost and was part of a trinitarian Pentecostal church before God revealed his Oneness and the Baptism in Jesus' Name.

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No... I know that what the modern day "Pentecostal denomination" adherents basic belief (or most common held belief) is baptism of the of the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues. The fact that they identify themselves with the move of God in the day of pentecost doesn't mean they understand or have the full revelation of what occurred on that day.

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The ALJC and the GNCM are basically onesness organizations. The GNCM are less into adding "standards" on top of Biblical doctrine. They are also less likely to make a big deal out of the Biblical truth of God in Christ, but just preach it along with the rest of the Bible as it is, truth. They do baptize in Jesus name and believe in the infilling of the Holy Ghost. Depending on the church, they have different ideas about when salvation occurs (repentance, some believe in the three works of salvation, etc.).

Also, a lot of nondenominational churches just preach the Bible without additions. This means you won't hear them call it the oneness, but they are likely to baptize in Jesus name and believe in the baptism of the Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues. I attend one of these now. They are very serious about getting people baptized and filled with the Spirit. in 9 months of attending I have never heard them add anything to the scripture. They baptize in Jesus name as well. Before I left the UPC this church was referred to as heretical and as trinitarian in various times I heard of it. Don't believe what you hear, check it out for yourself. I even had an old UPC friend write me last week and accuse me of becoming a trinitarian for going to that church! LOL! Of course I invited him to church where he could hear for himself! :)

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There are quite a few sabbatarian Pentecostals who believe in Binitarianism. I think there's a group that's primarily found in Jamaica called Church of God 7th Day that speak in tongues and hold Apostolic standards.

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I have found this to be the difference between pentecostal vs apostolic. Thank you for pointing this out. Thus the reason why I attend sometimes a pentecostal church now.