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06-08-2015, 12:01 AM
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Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
Just out of curiosity? Have any of you guys heard of any non trinitarian Pentecostal groups other than oneness? Whether Arian, Binitarian...etc
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06-08-2015, 05:16 AM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
The School of Prophet movement began by William Sowders better known as Gospel Assembly or Body of Christ believe in 2 in the Godhead. Sowders began his movement in thr early years of the last century. By the time he died there were about 400 assemblies scattered across the nation. After his death in 51 the group began to split into different groups but in the last decade there has been a reuniting of the group. Sowders built a large campground at Shepherdsville, Ky. I don't know how many assemblies are associated with them today?
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06-08-2015, 06:21 AM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
Yadon and Morse were accused of believing in 2. But I have not found any documentation, yet.
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06-08-2015, 06:40 AM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
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Yadon and Morse were accused of believing in 2. But I have not found any documentation, yet.
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I do not really think either were twoness. Yadon's problem arose over him reprinting the book Jehovah-Jesus his title which was written by an Arian. But I really do not think he was an Arian? Some men bordered on teaching Jesus was a created being Ted Fitch taught this which sounded very much twoness, however after the incarnation he was certainly Oneness as was Yadon.
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06-08-2015, 06:41 AM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
Thanks for the insight. Have a great camp meeting !!
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06-08-2015, 12:17 PM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
I think there may be some Unitarian out there
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-17-2015, 10:37 PM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
The Gospel Assembly/Gospel Chapel folks are two-ness. (Sowderites)
I think The Way, International is a unitarian, pentecostal group (believe Jesus is Son of God, not God).
Wasn't Branham kind of two-ness?
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06-18-2015, 11:02 AM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
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Originally Posted by Israelarb
Just out of curiosity? Have any of you guys heard of any non trinitarian Pentecostal groups other than oneness? Whether Arian, Binitarian...etc
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"Repent...be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ...receive...the Holy Spirit."
What makes you think trinitarians are "Pentecostal"?
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06-18-2015, 01:11 PM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
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"Repent...be baptized in the NAME of Jesus Christ...receive...the Holy Spirit."
What makes you think trinitarians are "Pentecostal"?
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My understanding has always been, Pentecostal refers to the style of worship, while we use Apostolic to define our doctrinal positions (hence why this is Apostolic Friends Forum, rather than Pentecostal Friends Forum).
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06-18-2015, 02:14 PM
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Re: Non Trinitarian Pentecostals?
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I do not really think either were twoness. Yadon's problem arose over him reprinting the book Jehovah-Jesus his title which was written by an Arian. But I really do not think he was an Arian? Some men bordered on teaching Jesus was a created being Ted Fitch taught this which sounded very much twoness, however after the incarnation he was certainly Oneness as was Yadon.
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Fitch taught the true doctrine of Oneness. Far more glorious than the "thought" or "plan" error.
Fitch wrote:
"The 'Angel of the Lord' represented the Great Eternal Spirit that filled the Universe. The Spirit of God was present everywhere. The Angel 'Person' of God was God in One Place. Please notice that everytime the Angel of the Lord appeared or spoke to anyone it was God Himself 'in person'... Before the Son of God was born of the Virgin Mary, the Lord God existed in two definite ways. God was manifested as an Angelic Spirit 'Person' and as an omnipresent Spirit, that is present everywhere all the time. His 'Person' was in the form of a man, and His eternal Spirit was without form, body or parts" (Theodore Fitch, The Deity of Jesus, Pentecostal Publishing House, Hazelwood, MO n.d., p. 4).
"Before the incarnation, the fullness of God dwell in a Spirit body which was in the form of a man. This beautiful angel body was made flesh by the power of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the Virgin Mary. This made the God-Angel a God-man... If the Word or 'Person' of God was made flesh, then the Father is the Son and the Son is the Father.. The Word that was God, was 'made over' into a flesh man (John 1:14). When God the Word was made flesh, he became a Son, but still remained God, he still remained the same Person... The angel Person of the Lord from Heaven is now called the Son of God" (Fitch, p. 22,23).
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