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Are you...

Calvinist?

Arminian?

Pelagian?

Semipelagian?

Other/explain

AND WHY?

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My ancestors were from Sweden, Ireland, England...

My wife's were Apache, Mexican, Spain and Irish.

What does that make my kids C?

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I'm Native American, Jewish & German.

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i'm not a pelagian, but i believe that the doctrine of Original Sin was subverted by the RCC for its own ends, and that that doctrine is alive and well in most Protestant churches, and people. It appeals to human nature.

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I believe there are more idiots in this world than not.

I believe more often than not, I am one of those idiots.

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So you fall under the "other" category.

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I'm a Christian. I do not follow Calvin, Arminius, Pelagius, Charles Russel, Joseph Smith, or any other cult leader. Calvinism, Arminianism, Wesleyism, Lutherism, Russelism, Smithism... they are all cults of personality rife with false doctrines. I try to follow the apostles of Jesus Christ, because only through them can we know the doctrine (teaching) of Christ, and only Christ's doctrine will save and bring enlightenment.

I suppose, however, based on the choices you gave, that you are looking for a poll of views regarding the subjects of original sin and free will and predestination?

The Bible doesn't teach or recognise the following false cultic doctrines of men:

That all humans are born hellbound with an odious sinful nature.
That God condemns all humans from birth to eternal destruction simply because they are descended from Adam, or simply because Adam sinned so all his posterity are automatically going to hell.
That sin is a disease (like cancer or a genetic defect) instead of crime against God's commandments.
That all humans have a natural, inborn constitutional inability to obey God.
That regeneration comes before faith.
That all human decisions are and have already been certain from eternity past.
That humans have no free will and are constitutionally and necessarily, naturally unable to choose good or evil.
That God decreed in eternity past the specific individuals who would finally be saved, or who would finally be lost.
That no person is able to put their trust in Jesus unless God somehow makes it happen.
That sin is 'inherited' in our dna, bloodstream, or some other physical manner.
That sin exists in our nature as some kind of 'physical' substance.
That Biblically commanded perfection cannot be obtained except upon or after physical death. (Notice, I said BIBLICALLY commanded perfection, not people's erroneous ideas about what constitutes Biblical perfection...)
That true doctrine can only be understood in the writings and teachings of some man or group that came after the original apostles and their writings (the New Testament scriptures), as is commonly believed by the followers of Calvin, Russel, Smith, and others.
That Biblical predestination has to do with individuals' final salvation or final damnation.

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I am an Open Theism leaning Arminian. Calvinism, IMO, just paints God as a ruthless Machiavellian bloodthirsty being. I cannot reconcile the Calvinist portrait of God to that of Christ in scripture.

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Republican.

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Futurist

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So, Esaias doesn't believe that we are born in sin or that man is a slave to sin before regeneration.

Anyone else in his group?

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that right there might be enough to get you saved.

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What he said.

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Bwahahahahaha

Laughed so hard my wife came over to see what I was tickled with...

Sean, he is saying you are a loser so stop!

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I never said I do not believe man is a slave to sin before regeneration. Whoever commits sin is the servant (bond-slave) of sin. This of course means that if you are sinning you are a slave to sin and are not "saved". The common doctrine that Christians " sin every day" is another cult lie not found in scripture.

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LOL ... Mike:dogpatBenincasa

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I am Groot.

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Hey Jose! Welcome back to the forum!

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I believe you speak great truth!

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Definitely not Calvinist.

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Far closer to Arminian, and absolutely not Calvinistic.

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Litermetaphorilistic.

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LOL

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Sean is...

Lifeless

On

Line

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:dogpat Mike, kennel your dog. He got loose again.

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Did you just refer to a highly respected minister as a dog? Very classy.

You're a friggin moron.

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I agree with Esaias

I'm a Christian. I do not follow Calvin or Arminius.

The possible solutions are

1. Calvin is right, Arminius is wrong
2. Calvin is wrong, Arminius is right
3. Calvin and Arminius are both right
4. Calvin and Arminius are both wrong.

I simply choose option 4
I simply reject their interpretations.

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Please. Most of you are Arminians and don't even know it.

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While that may be true in a lot of cases, I can guarantee you in *my* case, it is not. I am definitely not an Arminian. I know his doctrines, I have studied the 5 points he posited in counter to Calvin, and I am definitely NOT an Arminian. Neither am I a Calvinist.

As for Pelagius, nobody knows what he actually taught as none of his writings have survived. Of course, anyone who disagrees with Augistine is often labeled 'Pelagian', in spite of the ignorance of such a statement.

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I eschew un-Biblical labels at all times.

If a doctrine is true, then it mustn't be associated with some future proponent, but with Jesus and His Apostles.

If it isn't true, then it can die in the dust with all other false teachings.

Who is of Paul, of Cephas, of Apollos, of Christ?

Who is of Calvin, of Arminius, of Luther, of whomever?

Who is of Graham, of Bernard, of Ravenhill, of who cares?

Just as neither Paul, Cephas, or Apollos died for any, and none were baptized in any of their names, so no one but Jesus died for anyone, and we are to only ever be baptized into His name.

Anything more of this is carnal and divisive.

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:yourock

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I agree with you 100%

regrettably some follow teachers instead of Christ.

You better not attack David Bernard's teachings or else you will feel the fury of a multitude of Oneness believers who equate Bernard's teachings almost on a par with the Bible.

Get over it, the writings of David K. Bernard are good, but they are not anywhere near the word of God.

I fear lest the UPCI becomes another sect like the Adventists where the Writings of that deluded Helen G. White are considered equal to the word of God.

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born with a sin nature. No born with sins already committed before we can commit them

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Im a Poet

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That's funny

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Hence we are judged by our works, and the tree is known by its fruit. :thumbsup