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crakjak 07-22-2009 08:39 AM

Jesus' Blood is More Powerful than the Sin of Adam
 
The Weymouth translates Romans 5:18-19 very nicely:

"It follows then that just as the result of a single transgression is a condemnation which extends to the whole race, so also the result of a single decree of righteousness is a life-giving acquittal which extends to the whole race. For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous." (Romans 5:18-19)

In case anyone misunderstand the extent of Christ's redemption Paul makes it very clear in verse 20:

"Where sin abounded, grace abounded MUCH MORE." (Ro.5:20)

crakjak 07-22-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 775942)
The Weymouth translates Romans 5:18-19 very nicely:

"It follows then that just as the result of a single transgression is a condemnation which extends to the whole race, so also the result of a single decree of righteousness is a life-giving acquittal which extends to the whole race. For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous." (Romans 5:18-19)

In case anyone misunderstand the extent of Christ's redemption Paul makes it very clear in verse 20:

"Where sin abounded, grace abounded MUCH MORE." (Ro.5:20)

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Raven 07-22-2009 11:44 AM

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Amen my brother!!!

Raven

Sister Alvear 07-22-2009 11:46 AM

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HIS BLOOD is more powerful...because it redeems us from sin.

U376977 07-22-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 776082)
HIS BLOOD is more powerful...because it redeems us from sin.

And hell.

Shawn 07-22-2009 02:46 PM

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Christ will be all in all. Amen.

Kim Komando 07-22-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Jesus' Blood is More Powerful than the Sin of
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 775942)
The Weymouth translates Romans 5:18-19 very nicely:

"It follows then that just as the result of a single transgression is a condemnation which extends to the whole race, so also the result of a single decree of righteousness is a life-giving acquittal which extends to the whole race. For as through the disobedience of the one individual the mass of mankind were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the mass of mankind will be constituted righteous." (Romans 5:18-19)

In case anyone misunderstand the extent of Christ's redemption Paul makes it very clear in verse 20:

"Where sin abounded, grace abounded MUCH MORE." (Ro.5:20)

Amen, by universalist brother. Unitarians and universalists the world over like President John Adams applaud your veiled assertion.

The key to understanding this passage is that Paul is speaking of what is the free gift that constitutes ALL OF MAN righteous before God, which is the righteousness through the blood of Christ. This passages is not speaking of universal salvation as some have distorted and warped it to mean but rather the universal gift of righteousness available through faith that is the foundation basis of salvation of the BELIEVER.

Crakjak, you know better than to prooftext. Romans 5, IN CONTEXT, begins with this thesis statement.

1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

The righteousness and basis of forgiveness is accessed through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ which you believe does not need to be expressed in a man's lifetime but rather God in his irresistible grace and love will torment and punish some in hell temporarily until they love Him for eternity.

This doctrine does not understand love allows choice even at the sake of losing.

Shawn 07-22-2009 06:40 PM

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For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. (KJV)

Praxeas 07-22-2009 06:54 PM

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The funny thing is you all don't even realize this is one of dozens of posts by CJ attempting to prove Universal Reconciliation and in fact is a repeat just using a new version

Kim Komando 07-22-2009 07:27 PM

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The UR adherent wants you to read more than what is being said in Romans 5.

1. First Paul says we are justified through faith. Faith/Belief being necessary.

2. That righteousness, the declaration of being just or right with God is a gift made available to all men that can be RECEIVED. Which ,of course , the inverse means that a gift can be rejected.

17For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned (AH)through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will (AI)reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.

3. That through one act of righteousness or this declaration results in the justification (the basis of our legal standing) before God.

18So then as through (AJ)one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one (AK)act of righteousness there resulted (AL)justification of life to all men - yet never annulled his basic premised that we are saved by grace through faith.

However where Crakjak and his friends fall short is that it is through faith and that somehow one can be an unrepentant Buddhist pedophile serial killer during one's life, and without Scripture, say that after death he will have a chance to have faith in the sacrifice of Christ for his salvation.

He mistakes the universal basis of our righteousness with a decree that all are saved even if one chooses not to believe or rejects the Gospel.

Of course Jesus made it clear that he who does not believe is condemned.

If he is right (not likely) too much hangs in the balance not to believe when we have breathe.


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