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rgcraig 02-26-2011 08:34 AM
No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Michael Phelps 02-26-2011 08:36 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1037114)
According to some on here, this is false doctrine, Renda.....

Phoenix 02-26-2011 08:39 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
How can anyone look at the cross, the physical pain, the blood, tears and death, and then say that we have to do *anything* to earn salvation? It's been paid for, in full. To truly accept that will change a person completely. No one has to follow a set of steps or keep a checklist.

Truthseeker 02-26-2011 08:48 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 1037117)
How can anyone look at the cross, the physical pain, the blood, tears and death, and then say that we have to do *anything* to earn salvation? It's been paid for, in full. To truly accept that will change a person completely. No one has to follow a set of steps or keep a checklist.
Obey??? Is obedience a work?

Phoenix 02-26-2011 08:56 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1037119)
Obey??? Is obedience a work?
I don't understand the question in context.

To truly accept will change a person completely. I don't follow a set of steps or keep a checklist. I accept what has been offered and let it change me.

Margies3 02-26-2011 08:58 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1037119)
Obey??? Is obedience a work?
Obey what? The rules that man has set? Because if we can earn our salvation thru obedience to the rules, then what purpose did Jesus suffering on the cross serve?

Truthseeker 02-26-2011 08:59 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 1037120)
I don't understand the question in context.

To truly accept will change a person completely. I don't follow a set of steps or keep a checklist. I accept what has been offered and let it change me.
Sorry, mostly addressing the faith alone belief that many believe, not so much your post.

crakjak 02-26-2011 09:35 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1037114)
Yes!! And after suffering the exceedingly high cost of the "sins of the world", He declared "...it is finished!!!!"

crakjak 02-26-2011 09:40 AM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 1037117)
How can anyone look at the cross, the physical pain, the blood, tears and death, and then say that we have to do *anything* to earn salvation? It's been paid for, in full. To truly accept that will change a person completely. No one has to follow a set of steps or keep a checklist.
Christian's frustration in trying to "be good enough" is simply the result of not believing that what Jesus did was enough!!!

When we truly believe that HE finished the work of salvation, miraculously we are empowered to "live Godly in this present world." In contrast to striving and struggling for approval. Folks that have "...entered into HIS rest..." have ended their struggle!!! Amen!

commonsense 02-26-2011 12:52 PM
Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
 
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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1037135)
Christian's frustration in trying to "be good enough" is simply the result of not believing that what Jesus did was enough!!!

When we truly believe that HE finished the work of salvation, miraculously we are empowered to "live Godly in this present world." In contrast to striving and struggling for approval. Folks that have "...entered into HIS rest..." have ended their struggle!!! Amen!

Exactly. We will never be good enough.

If we have to earn it, it's not free.


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