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No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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02-26-2011, 08:36 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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According to some on here, this is false doctrine, Renda.....
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02-26-2011, 08:39 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
How can anyone look at the cross, the physical pain, the blood, tears and death, and then say that we have to do *anything* to earn salvation? It's been paid for, in full. To truly accept that will change a person completely. No one has to follow a set of steps or keep a checklist.
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02-26-2011, 08:48 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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How can anyone look at the cross, the physical pain, the blood, tears and death, and then say that we have to do *anything* to earn salvation? It's been paid for, in full. To truly accept that will change a person completely. No one has to follow a set of steps or keep a checklist.
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Obey??? Is obedience a work?
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02-26-2011, 08:56 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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Obey??? Is obedience a work?
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I don't understand the question in context.
To truly accept will change a person completely. I don't follow a set of steps or keep a checklist. I accept what has been offered and let it change me.
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
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02-26-2011, 08:58 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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Obey??? Is obedience a work?
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Obey what? The rules that man has set? Because if we can earn our salvation thru obedience to the rules, then what purpose did Jesus suffering on the cross serve?
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02-26-2011, 08:59 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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I don't understand the question in context.
To truly accept will change a person completely. I don't follow a set of steps or keep a checklist. I accept what has been offered and let it change me.
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Sorry, mostly addressing the faith alone belief that many believe, not so much your post.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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02-26-2011, 09:35 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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Yes!! And after suffering the exceedingly high cost of the "sins of the world", He declared "...it is finished!!!!"
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02-26-2011, 09:40 AM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
How can anyone look at the cross, the physical pain, the blood, tears and death, and then say that we have to do *anything* to earn salvation? It's been paid for, in full. To truly accept that will change a person completely. No one has to follow a set of steps or keep a checklist.
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Christian's frustration in trying to "be good enough" is simply the result of not believing that what Jesus did was enough!!!
When we truly believe that HE finished the work of salvation, miraculously we are empowered to "live Godly in this present world." In contrast to striving and struggling for approval. Folks that have "...entered into HIS rest..." have ended their struggle!!! Amen!
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02-26-2011, 12:52 PM
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Re: No, THIS is TRUE LOVE!
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Christian's frustration in trying to "be good enough" is simply the result of not believing that what Jesus did was enough!!!
When we truly believe that HE finished the work of salvation, miraculously we are empowered to "live Godly in this present world." In contrast to striving and struggling for approval. Folks that have "...entered into HIS rest..." have ended their struggle!!! Amen!
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Exactly. We will never be good enough.
If we have to earn it, it's not free.
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