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Jermyn Davidson 04-30-2013 08:37 AM

No Problem w/ Singing These Lyrics...
 
"God in three Persons, Blessed Trinity."

I like this worship chorus.

Now maybe my idea of the Trinity may be slightly different from some other modern Trinitarians-- then again, maybe not.

I enjoy seeking to identify with my Heavenly Father in my private prayer and worship time, where at one time my focus was completely Jesus-focused.

Now of course, we all know that when we call on the Name of Jesus, we are not calling on a separate person apart from GOD.

Yet, there is a difference, a certain separation if you will.

I don't have all the answers and I don't aspire to have them all.

I just want to tell somebody, I have a Father and He calls me His son. I want to please Him, honor Him, be just like Him and see Him as He is!

odooley6985 04-30-2013 11:17 AM

Re: No Problem w/ Singing These Lyrics...
 
I have problem seeing as how persons in reference to GOD is highly un-biblical.

n david 04-30-2013 11:40 AM

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I like how POA changed that line to "God in Christ Jesus, Blessed Deity." Like the song, don't agree with the trinity line though.

Jermyn Davidson 04-30-2013 12:37 PM

Re: No Problem w/ Singing These Lyrics...
 
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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1246736)
I have problem seeing as how persons in reference to GOD is highly un-biblical.

The word "persons" is a human construct attempting to explain a concept.

The word "rapture" is highly un-biblical as well, using your logic.


In discussing the term "Trinity", was the word "persons" ever meant to denote a separation as separate as three separate people? I don't think so-- which is why most Trinitarian stuff I've read doesn't seem to present GOD as a committee.


Does anyone else ever find it comforting to dwell on the Father-hood of our God?

Farfel 04-30-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1246762)
The word "persons" is a human construct attempting to explain a concept.

The word "rapture" is highly un-biblical as well, using your logic.


In discussing the term "Trinity", was the word "persons" ever meant to denote a separation as separate as three separate people? I don't think so-- which is why most Trinitarian stuff I've read doesn't seem to present GOD as a committee.


Does anyone else ever find it comforting to dwell on the Father-hood of our God?

The term "persons" is actually a mistranslation. Tertullian actually said "personae."

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1246762)
The word "persons" is a human construct attempting to explain a concept.

God also doesn't have 'hands' or eyes... but He is given those attributes in speech to help us with our limited understanding of Spirit that can speak matter into existence. I'm not sure why OPs always feel they have to correct the 'persons' thing, even in something as simple as song lyrics... But if I sing "He's got the whole world, in his hands"... nobody stops the song to tell me God does NOT have hands. :heeheehee


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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1246762)
Does anyone else ever find it comforting to dwell on the Father-hood of our God?

Yes, me. I did not have an earthly father and really enjoy knowing that I have a Heavenly Father who watches over and protects me. Very comforting.

Ferd 04-30-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1246736)
I have problem seeing as how persons in reference to GOD is highly un-biblical.

amen... and skitzophrinic.

odooley6985 04-30-2013 02:22 PM

Re: No Problem w/ Singing These Lyrics...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1246762)
The word "persons" is a human construct attempting to explain a concept.

The word "rapture" is highly un-biblical as well, using your logic.


In discussing the term "Trinity", was the word "persons" ever meant to denote a separation as separate as three separate people? I don't think so-- which is why most Trinitarian stuff I've read doesn't seem to present GOD as a committee.


Does anyone else ever find it comforting to dwell on the Father-hood of our God?

Huh? Explain the bold part. What else is persons supposed to denote? I think of more than one when I see a plural. Also using a human construct that isnt biblical is still wrong. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD. Thats it!

Esaias 04-30-2013 02:42 PM

Re: No Problem w/ Singing These Lyrics...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1246651)
"God in three Persons, Blessed Trinity."

I like this worship chorus.

Now maybe my idea of the Trinity may be slightly different from some other modern Trinitarians-- then again, maybe not.

I enjoy seeking to identify with my Heavenly Father in my private prayer and worship time, where at one time my focus was completely Jesus-focused.

Now of course, we all know that when we call on the Name of Jesus, we are not calling on a separate person apart from GOD.

Yet, there is a difference, a certain separation if you will.

I don't have all the answers and I don't aspire to have them all.

I just want to tell somebody, I have a Father and He calls me His son. I want to please Him, honor Him, be just like Him and see Him as He is!

You're a democrat, right?

bishoph 04-30-2013 02:47 PM

Re: No Problem w/ Singing These Lyrics...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1246762)
In discussing the term "Trinity", was the word "persons" ever meant to denote a separation as separate as three separate people? I don't think so-- which is why most Trinitarian stuff I've read doesn't seem to present GOD as a committee.

Either you are joking, or just stirring the proverbial pot......I would guess the latter.......either way you and I both know that educated trinitarians (those who have been really taught the doctrine.....which MOST of your average members have not been) do promote three separate and distinct persons which make up the godhead. They are co-equal, co-eternal, etc but they are one.....a supposed mystery that we must accept by faith.

By definition, the trinitarian view of God completely destroys what a majority of their church's vision/mission statements state as their objective: "To know God and to make him known." How can you make God known when you teach he is a mystery that you cannot know, so you just accept it by faith.


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