I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Father?
 

Seems I was mistaken? I keep running into people who identify as "apostolic" and "oneness" who nevertheless believe and teach "Jesus is not God", or that Jesus is NOT the Father, that he is only " indwelt" by Deity and is not Himself the Supreme Deity, and other similar types of things.

Did I get on the wrong bus? Should I get off ASAP?

I was blown away when I discovered there were "apostolics" who didn't believe in the new birth of water and Spirit, or who didn't believe that baptism in the Name is FOR (not "because of") the remission of sins. But the last several years seems there is a rapidly growing number of apostolic oneness pentecostal believers who aren't even oneness - at least not as I understand the term...

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

Just about everyone you talk to has a different spin on how to explain their way of understanding the Godhead, it seems.

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

I know Jesus is the Father
I know Jesus is the Son
I know Jesus is the Holy Ghost
And all these three are One!

:shockamoo

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

Yup, grew up singing that song ... know it quite well! Let me tell you who Jesus is! :)

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=33326

In this poll from 2011 54% of posters here denied Jesus is the Father.

A person is not apostolic if they don't believe Jesus is the Father

People are not studying and are not receiving teaching nowadays. Sad.

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

By and large modern Oneness teachers are doing a terrible job with the most wonderful doctrine. I see Oneness believers being humiliated by Trins a lot on Paltalk.

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

Agreed. When I was Trinitarian and accepted Oneness I then considered myself "Apostolic".

Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
 

There are churches within the UPCI whose Pastor's teach that Jesus Christ is not the Father.

The Pastor's teach this because they choose to follow the Bible, not add to the Bible.