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Old 09-10-2015, 01:55 PM
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I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Father?
Seems I was mistaken? I keep running into people who identify as "apostolic" and "oneness" who nevertheless believe and teach "Jesus is not God", or that Jesus is NOT the Father, that he is only " indwelt" by Deity and is not Himself the Supreme Deity, and other similar types of things.

Did I get on the wrong bus? Should I get off ASAP?

I was blown away when I discovered there were "apostolics" who didn't believe in the new birth of water and Spirit, or who didn't believe that baptism in the Name is FOR (not "because of") the remission of sins. But the last several years seems there is a rapidly growing number of apostolic oneness pentecostal believers who aren't even oneness - at least not as I understand the term...
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Old 09-10-2015, 02:07 PM
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Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
Just about everyone you talk to has a different spin on how to explain their way of understanding the Godhead, it seems.
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Old 09-10-2015, 02:13 PM
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Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
I know Jesus is the Father
I know Jesus is the Son
I know Jesus is the Holy Ghost
And all these three are One!

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Old 09-10-2015, 02:55 PM
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I know Jesus is the Father
I know Jesus is the Son
I know Jesus is the Holy Ghost
And all these three are One!
Yup, grew up singing that song ... know it quite well! Let me tell you who Jesus is!
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:05 PM
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Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
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In this poll from 2011 54% of posters here denied Jesus is the Father.
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:18 PM
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In this poll from 2011 54% of posters here denied Jesus is the Father.
A person is not apostolic if they don't believe Jesus is the Father
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Just about everyone you talk to has a different spin on how to explain their way of understanding the Godhead, it seems.
People are not studying and are not receiving teaching nowadays. Sad.
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People are not studying and are not receiving teaching nowadays. Sad.
By and large modern Oneness teachers are doing a terrible job with the most wonderful doctrine. I see Oneness believers being humiliated by Trins a lot on Paltalk.
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Old 09-10-2015, 03:26 PM
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A person is not apostolic if they don't believe Jesus is the Father
Agreed. When I was Trinitarian and accepted Oneness I then considered myself "Apostolic".
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Re: I thought apostolics believed Jesus is the Fat
There are churches within the UPCI whose Pastor's teach that Jesus Christ is not the Father.

The Pastor's teach this because they choose to follow the Bible, not add to the Bible.
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