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coksiw 04-18-2020 10:54 AM

COVID interesting research, and possible Good News
 
For those that have access to WSJ, here is the article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-dat...nding_now_pos4

For those than can't this is the main point:

At the beginning of April, researchers tested COVID antibodies on a sample population of 3300 residents in Santa Clara county, CA.
The official number of known cases were roughly 1000 in that county, but they found that based on the sample and some statistical errors, between 2.5% to 4.2% of the county had the virus. That's 48,000 to 81,000.

What it means?
1) Dead rate is much lower than thought
2) The virus spreads very very fast and many people don't know they have it.

Other observations (mine): Because the virus spreads real fast, the critical cases can overwhelm the hospitals with critical conditions and create a dramatic situation. This is what we saw in Spain, and Italy. It seems that the ones that get bad symptoms is usually devastating and very low chance of surviving. I have never seen somebody that I have known personally or it is related to a friend, that has died of the flu. I have known many getting pneumonia because of the flu but they all make it. However, I have known personally that have died of covid, and many also related to friends. It is like if with covid you are more likely to become critical or not making it once you get pneumonia.

The good news (this is my conclusion also): herd immunity is then underway, and the virus may not come in winter as badly as people expect it.

Also this research may help gov't to justify publicly the easing of lockdown going forward.

I want to conclude this post reiterating that God is still in control of every single saints life. He won't stop having mercy and giving strengths to those that trust in him :).

Amanah 04-18-2020 01:47 PM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1586355)
For those that have access to WSJ, here is the article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-dat...nding_now_pos4

For those than can't this is the main point:

At the beginning of April, researchers tested COVID antibodies on a sample population of 3300 residents in Santa Clara county, CA.
The official number of known cases were roughly 1000 in that county, but they found that based on the sample and some statistical errors, between 2.5% to 4.2% of the county had the virus. That's 48,000 to 81,000.

What it means?
1) Dead rate is much lower than thought
2) The virus spreads very very fast and many people don't know they have it.

Other observations (mine): Because the virus spreads real fast, the critical cases can overwhelm the hospitals with critical conditions and create a dramatic situation. This is what we saw in Spain, and Italy. It seems that the ones that get bad symptoms is usually devastating and very low chance of surviving. I have never seen somebody that I have known personally or it is related to a friend, that has died of the flu. I have known many getting pneumonia because of the flu but they all make it. However, I have known personally that have died of covid, and many also related to friends. It is like if with covid you are more likely to become critical or not making it once you get pneumonia.

The good news (this is my conclusion also): herd immunity is then underway, and the virus may not come in winter as badly as people expect it.

Also this research may help gov't to justify publicly the easing of lockdown going forward.

I want to conclude this post reiterating that God is still in control of every single saints life. He won't stop having mercy and giving strengths to those that trust in him :).

:thumbsup

Esaias 04-19-2020 04:51 AM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Why is it that the very people managing this whole pandemic have admitted that up to 80% of positive test results are FALSE positives, that this is no more than a seasonal flu, that the actual mortality rate is equivalent if not LESS than the flu...

AND YET people STILL think this is some highly virulent deadly pandemic plague ...

AND have completely tolerated the evisceration of their rights and freedoms...

AND have literally allowed the tv and their governor to dictate when and how they shall HAVE CHURCH...?

Amanah 04-19-2020 06:48 AM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1586383)
Why is it that the very people managing this whole pandemic have admitted that up to 80% of positive test results are FALSE positives, that this is no more than a seasonal flu, that the actual mortality rate is equivalent if not LESS than the flu...

AND YET people STILL think this is some highly virulent deadly pandemic plague ...

AND have completely tolerated the evisceration of their rights and freedoms...

AND have literally allowed the tv and their governor to dictate when and how they shall HAVE CHURCH...?

:thumbsup

Scott Pitta 04-19-2020 07:07 AM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
How many citizens will need to die from covid19 before skeptics take the pandemic seriously ?

Stay socially isolated and be healthy.

Mercy and peace to all who have suffered loss during this difficult time.

Light 04-19-2020 10:08 AM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1586389)
How many citizens will need to die from covid19 before skeptics take the pandemic seriously ?

Stay socially isolated and be healthy.

Mercy and peace to all who have suffered loss during this difficult time.

The sad thing is that it will take the death of a family member or good friend to change these people.

Esaias 04-19-2020 11:18 AM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1586389)
How many citizens will need to die from covid19 before skeptics take the pandemic seriously ?

Stay socially isolated and be healthy.

Mercy and peace to all who have suffered loss during this difficult time.

CDC: We actually have no idea how many people have really died from COVID19, we just need to take your freedoms away.

Scott: See? How many more people have to die before you submit?

Light: The CDC will have to say one of their loved ones died from COVID19 before they submit.

Me: How many will it take? Every last human being on planet earth. Freedom is the ability to serve God, so it's worth every single life on the planet. Period.

hometown guy 04-19-2020 11:33 AM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1586389)
How many citizens will need to die from covid19 before skeptics take the pandemic seriously ?

Stay socially isolated and be healthy.

Mercy and peace to all who have suffered loss during this difficult time.

Too bad you don’t have the passion against abortion where a whole lot more lives die per day.

Jito463 04-19-2020 12:09 PM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1586383)
Why is it that the very people managing this whole pandemic have admitted that up to 80% of positive test results are FALSE positives, that this is no more than a seasonal flu, that the actual mortality rate is equivalent if not LESS than the flu...

AND YET people STILL think this is some highly virulent deadly pandemic plague ...

AND have completely tolerated the evisceration of their rights and freedoms...

AND have literally allowed the tv and their governor to dictate when and how they shall HAVE CHURCH...?

Here's another variable to consider. Deaths from pneumonia, flu and other such illnesses have dropped to virtually nothing. How many people have died from those, and yet the deaths get attributed to C19? We already know the CDC has allowed coroners to claim C19 as the "likely" cause of death, in the absence of any actual testing for it.

Warning for the video, Crowder can be a bit crude at times. I agree with him on a lot of political issues, but his form of comedy can get a bit....raunchy at times. Nothing I particularly noted in this specific video, just something to be mindful of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ROuK62s84

Long story short, C19 deaths are being guessed at, while C19 infections are only reported when confirmed, thus skewing the mortality rate for C19.

coksiw 04-19-2020 01:59 PM

Re: COVID interesting research, and possible Good
 
I have info first hand of what this is doing in Spain to my friends, my former church, and to people I have known for many years.
I have witnessed their tears over the phone, their desperation, and their pain as doctors had to make the tough decisions of disconnecting love ones because were not recovering after weeks and they needed the ICU beds for other that can live.

I had never seen this before with any flu.

This is real, and louder than any other voice saying the opposite.


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