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Originally Posted by n david
Why don't you answer my question? You've accused Matthew Davies of being a "criminal."
Was he arrested?
Was he charged with any crime?
Yes or no?
Why do you continue to ignore the question? It's pretty simple, Pilgrim.
If he has been arrested and charged with a crime, post the proof.
If not, you should say so.
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To the apologist here is the definition of crook.
noun
: a dishonest person
: a criminal
: the place where part of the body (such as an arm, leg, or finger) bends
4 :a person who engages in fraudulent or criminal practices
Remember you don't have to be caught or charged to be a dishonest or fraudulent person. As for me and my "forgiveness", I am sure glad Jesus is a better more loving person than me. How easy it must be for you as a higher, almost angelic person to tell others how and when they must forgive. I bet you forgive at the drop of a hat. After all you most likly walked in everyone's shoes so you know how it feels to put 31, 19, and 16 years in a church. Giving of time to the ministry, teaching people salvation, praying with souls that cry out for freedom, giving of finances to just be tossed out like trash, tarnished, and told not to talk to the people you've loved for all those years. Why? Because you brought sin and crooked behavior to light? Oh and it was 2 pastors. I see now. It is easy to just pick up the shattered shards of my heart, Jim's and his wife's hearts and say no big deal we forgive. Mind blowing really that I think about it. What was I thinking? Ok I forgive them completely. That still does not absolve them for what they might have to do in the end. Read your Bible a little closer. God uses men to bring forth his judgments in most cases. Throughout the Bible we see story after story how God judges with the sword or the stone. So don't sit there as an apologist for an action that was dishonest and fraudulent in nature. casting judgment on a situation you know nothing about but defend and apologize for. I find it sad you can sue a catholic, baptist, even an Assembly of God saint because they in your eyes don't believe in God. Since he brought suit after he was disfellowshipped then I see no contradiction. If you where to ask these 2 crooks (by definition) I bet they would say he is not a brother. So they got the suit coming to them from just a poor ol' worldly sinner now, so scripture should not apply to them. Enjoy your juice. Jesus would have flipped over the tables a whipped them. Now that is scripture I would have liked to see. And Jesus forgave them as well. But when? Before the beatings or after. You sir, being so forgiving can make that call. I'll be waiting.